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sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 01, 02:51 PM 2018
You may want to call a dog, a pooch, a pup, a hound etc. At the end of the day it is a dog.  Variance doesn’t work the way you describe. Go ahead, give it a go. I assure you the win rate that you are seeing will remain the same whether you play one game in a day or 100 games in a day.  And I can assure you that the first game is nothing special. You have every right to believe what you believe, I can only crunch numbers and I clearly see the above two doesn’t make sense.
Tin Soldiers.

Who has played over a 1000 games of PB in REALITY. You or me?

Go ahead I will give you 1000 quid if you can get and KEEP a win rate of 22--1 playing all day. I gaurantee it will never happen. GO AHEAD. And actually PLAY 200 REAL GAMES. Tin soldiers.

You can number crunch all day. Thats not roulette. Actually put some REAL WORK IN. For a couple of months. Them come back with an apology. I will be waiting.

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 03:21 PM 2018
Go ahead I will give you 1000 quid if you can get and KEEP a win rate of 22--1 playing all day. I gaurantee it will never happen. GO AHEAD. And actually PLAY 200 REAL GAMES. Tin soldiers.
I accept the challenge. We have to get to a common ground though. Like you are saying you are getting 22-1, I can come tomm and say I have played all day and I got 22-1. Will you accept my answer and give me 1000 quid?  Guess not.

The common ground that I suggest is this. There is a great thread in this forum where Real spins everyday from efbet online casino is being posted. I play 200 games continuously. I play 200 games playing one game every day. We compare the win rates between them. If they are comparable I get 1000 quid as per your offer. 

I have accepted the challenge. Go ahead and put your money where your mouth is and prove that you are not just talking. As soon as you say ok to this I start playing from Jan 1st of last year and publish the results.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 01, 04:02 PM 2018
I accept the challenge. We have to get to a common ground though. Like you are saying you are getting 22-1, I can come tomm and say I have played all day and I got 22-1. Will you accept my answer and give me 1000 quid?  Guess not.

The common ground that I suggest is this. There is a great thread in this forum where Real spins everyday from efbet online casino is being posted. I play 200 games continuously. I play 200 games playing one game every day. We compare the win rates between them. If they are comparable I get 1000 quid as per your offer. 

I have accepted the challenge. Go ahead and put your money where your mouth is and prove that you are not just talking. As soon as you say ok to this I start playing from Jan 1st of last year and publish the results.
Thats not how it works tin soldier. You will join an online account. Where I CAN SEE you played 200 games. You can bet small money. Let me put it to you like this.

You will have to reach 200  games having only lost 9.

That means if you start with 100 euro. By the end of your 200 games you have to have won AT LEAST 191 GAMES MINUS the the 63 units you are allowed to lose.

That means Tin Soldier. If your balance after 200 games is less than 228 units from 200 games of 1-2-4. You have lost the bet. And I will expect a full apology from you on this forum.

If your balance is 228 or better. You will give.me you account details. And I will deposit 1000 into your account. After inspecting it for myself.

Im not dealing with no back tracking cherry picking nonsense. You will play exactly as I do.

Then tell me I dont know what im talking about.

So do you accept this???

You can ask anyone who has played this game for a long period of time. Like Dr Sudoku on this forum. The more you play. The more likely to hit losses.

But you will find that out for yourself. And even if you fluked a lucky period over a 1000 games that strikerate would drop down. I could make you play a 1000 games to prove that. But I will give you a chance to fluke a lucky run.

Tinsoldiers

There is only one problem here sentinel. This assumes your claim of 22-1 is true and you have played 200 first games with this win ratio. What is the proof. If you can show the proof then am ok with this. Go on show me the proof.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 01, 04:19 PM 2018
There is only one problem here sentinel. This assumes your claim of 22-1 is true and you have played 200 first games with this win ratio. What is the proof. If you can show the proof then am ok with this. Go on show me the proof.
That is impossible for me to prove because i play across several accounts. Thats why you should know I know my stuff.

If I tell you its near impossible to achieve 22--1 playing continuously. You should know I know what im talking about.

It would take me 200 days to prove to you Tin Soldier that im achieving a 20-1 plus win rate.

I would have to set aside one of my accounts specifically to play one game a day. For 200 days. Then you can log in and see for yourself.

But you arent going to wait 200 days are you?

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:29 PM 2018
That is impossible for me to prove because i play across several accounts. Thats why you should know I know my stuff.
Again you say you are playing across several accounts, even I play across several accounts and many people here do. Does that logically make me say the same thing to you that you should know I know my stuff.

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:29 PM 2018
If I tell you its near impossible to achieve 22--1 playing continuously. You should know I know what im talking about.
Funniest statement I have heard. It is worse than our prime minister saying brexit means brexit and asking us to believe that she knows what she is talking about.  :wink:


Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:29 PM 2018
But you arent going to wait 200 days are you?
Only yesterday I finished reading this whole thread and related ones and the original poster claimed the same. He asked everyone to wait for a particular day in the year and just vanished. We all can choose to believe that he is counting his bankroll.

Don’t postpone your false statements for 200 more days. I am not saying your 22-1 is false. I have no real reason to think either ways and I have to trust you here with your claims. All am saying is variance is not what you think it is. Playing 1 game in 200 days or playing 200 game in one day is the same thing.

What I have requested is fair and exact replica of what you would have done.  They are real spins from real casino.  Take 200 days back and we can easily see playing one game a day gets you where. I don’t see why you should say no to it, unless what you are claiming is false.

Or I can wait till 200 days and put up with your ignorance. Choice is yours mate.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 01, 04:42 PM 2018
Again you say you are playing across several accounts, even I play across several accounts and many people here do. Does that logically make me say the same thing to you that you should know I know my stuff.
Funniest statement I have heard. It is worse than our prime minister saying brexit means brexit and asking us to believe that she knows what she is talking about.  :wink:

Only yesterday I finished reading this whole thread and related ones and the original poster claimed the same. He asked everyone to wait for a particular day in the year and just vanished. We all can choose to believe that he is counting his bankroll.

Don’t postpone your false statements for 200 more days. What I have requested is fair and exact replica of what you would have done.  They are real spins from real casino.  Take 200 days back and we can easily see playing one game a day gets you where.

Or I can wait till 200 days and put up with your ignorance. Choice is yours mate.
You want me to prove to you that I can achieve a 20-1 plus win rate playing one game a day. I told you Im doing it. To back out of a bet you will never win. You have now asked me to prove i can achieve that.

The only way I can prove that is to play for 200 days and let you inspect the results. Theres no other way around it.

Dr Sudoku plays no more that 4 games in a calendar day. Go and ask him why he has done this for the last 2 years.

People who ACTUALLY PLAY this system TS know better. You are siding with 1 plus 1 = 2. Yes it does. But when it comes to the reality of roulette. Things simply dont happen that way. Thats what makes the game fascinating and very beatable. For those who understand this.

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:51 PM 2018
The only way I can prove that is to play for 200 days and let you inspect the results. Theres no other way around it.
Are you scared of the truth sentinel? What I offered doesn’t make you wait 200 days. Exactly as you play, one game a day using the results from efbet that is published here each day every day. Live Casino spins, real spins. What are you scared of.  Why do you not want to try.

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:51 PM 2018
Dr Sudoku plays no more that 4 games in a calendar day. Go and ask him why he has done this for the last 2 years.
In all fairness any member here is not a reference point. I welcome him to comment on the offer that I have made on testing one game a day on efbet spins for the last 200 days. I welcome him or any member to tell me why the process i suggested is not right and do not mimic your playing conditions.

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 01, 04:51 PM 2018
People who ACTUALLY PLAY this system TS know better. You are siding with 1 plus 1 = 2. Yes it does.
There is a reason 1+1 is 2. It can never be anything else. I am ok with you claiming you have 22-1 win ratio. I am ok with you wanting to share with everyone your success. What am not ok with is your definition of variance. Again I say, you don’t escape variance because you play 1 game a day. You will hit variance. I agree that your method has a mathematical advantage and I can prove that the advantage is somewhere 22 games winning  to 1-2 games losing ratio.  What I don’t agree is your definition of variance. And yes repeating your own words you have to know that I know what am saying.  :wink:

If you are still scared to go ahead, i can’t help it. But if you are not, let’s agree to test this out.

cht

There are wild claims.

There are weird claims.

There are claims made with motive.

Some are naive.

Some lack knowledge.

Some have ulterior motive - the con-artist.  :thumbsup:

Wise up,  you won't ever change the world.

Value your time.

Make your say and move on.

"You can fool some of the people all the time,  all the people some of the time but not all the people all the time. "

cht

If you make money however wild or weird from math sense it may be, just keep making your money.

No point come on forum to convince others that you're one luckyfella, the gambler with the midas touch.

If you push too hard,  you unnecessarily put yourself in the con-artist group.  :o

cht

DoctorSudoku,  are you serious with your play a few games you will win claim ?

You do recommend others to follow your style of play few games per visit ?

Just a confirmation post.  :question:

RouletteGhost

sentinel

you have reached a point where old forum members who are no longer here have now made new usernames and their one and only goal is to trash what is going on

ive learned to just ignore it

ignore it

dont attempt to justify it

just continue to play and post results

ive gone through it, not worth it

just keep on with what you are doing
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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cht

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 01, 07:37 PM 2018
sentinel

you have reached a point where old forum members who are no longer here have now made new usernames and their one and only goal is to trash what is going on

ive learned to just ignore it

ignore it

dont attempt to justify it

just continue to play and post results
Don't forget the one who trash systems play the most.

He's your resident con-artist.  :xd:

sentinel3

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 01, 07:37 PM 2018
sentinel

you have reached a point where old forum members who are no longer here have now made new usernames and their one and only goal is to trash what is going on

ive learned to just ignore it

ignore it

dont attempt to justify it

just continue to play and post results

ive gone through it, not worth it

just keep on with what you are doing
Thankyou Roulette  Ghost. Good advice that I shall heed...

Tinsoldiers

Ok. I believe this is heading where I don’t want it to head.  Now people especially sentinel should read what I have posted before closing their eyes shut.

I said the system he modified holds mathematical edge. I also said I can prove with math it can win 22-1.

However, I suggested you could do a couple of things which doesn’t make you wait like you do now. Playing as many a day is one of those things.  You can continue to live in ignorance about variance and waste your time or go ahead and give my suggestion a thought and try playing more games. Upto you to have a open mind or close it and say, I know what am doing.

As CHT says, I have had my say and am moving on.  All the best mate.

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