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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Robeenhuut

Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 06, 07:42 AM 2011
I take GF to mean Girl Friend!! LoL   ;D


Hello 

Lets not get 2 personal here  ;D
Matt

Blood Angel

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 06, 07:17 AM 2011
Hello everybody

I guess Bayes applies Bayes theorem 2 roulette n makes a killing. I'm pretty good @ mathematics 2 so i will have 2 research this more  because we all know now that all "simple" methods suck n d way 2 beat roulette is 2 have PhD in mathematics n MBA - massive bank account. ;D

N he even does not worry about GF  ;D

Regards
If Bayes has found a way to beat roulette without using Gamblers Fallacy then "Good Luck To Him" I say.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Blood Angel on Sep 06, 07:49 AM 2011
If Bayes has found a way to beat roulette without using Gamblers Fallacy then "Good Luck To Him" I say.

Hello Blood Angel

I can tell he is onto something big here  ;D

Regards
Matt

Bayes

Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 06, 07:42 AM 2011
I take GF to mean Girl Friend!! LoL   ;D

Well, a girlfriend IS due.  :-X
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Bayes

Why should the gambler's fallacy get all the credit?  there are plenty of other fallacies to go around.

Plenty of systems don't use GF, what about betting the same pattern over and over? or the same as the last colour?
They don't work, but they don't involve GF.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Bayes

I get the feeling JL is avoiding answering my questions about how he does his testing...  ;)
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Bayes

Difference between GF and regression to the mean. One "works", the other doesn't.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Bayes on Sep 06, 08:16 AM 2011
Difference between GF and regression to the mean. One "works", the other doesn't.

Hello Bayes

Nothing new here. Lots of systems based on it failed. I play something similar 2 that but im
also open minded about other "simpler" systems or methods just because u never know ;D
Never 2 late 2 learn something.

Regards
Matt

warrior

Quote from: Bayes on Sep 06, 08:13 AM 2011
I get the feeling JL is avoiding answering my questions about how he does his testing...  ;)
bayes how do you do yours im interested?

Bayes

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 06, 08:42 AM 2011
Nothing new here. Lots of systems based on it failed.

The devil is in the detail. It's not the be all and end all, but it's a principle which you shouldn't ignore IMO.
You might as well say that lots of systems using progressions failed, therefore progressions are useless. You can't throw out a principle just because it's not new, and because something is "new" or novel doesn't mean it's going to work either.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Bayes

Quote from: warrior on Sep 06, 08:46 AM 2011
bayes how do you do yours I'm interested?

I used to write simulations to test systems, but not often any more, it's quicker to use bayes' theorem (hypothesis testing).
I write code to find statistics which are too hard to calculate manually.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Johnlegend

Quote from: Anthony on Sep 05, 11:30 AM 2011
Thank you for Bayes and JohnLegend for both or your responses!

I agree there is risk in everything you do. Nothing in life is certain. But ultimately it's the people who take chances who succeed. If you just sit around waiting for something to happen you will still be in the same place you were when you started.

From what I have read on this forum even before becoming a member I believe this is one of the best systems to play. I do plan on doing a lot more testing just to be comfortable with this system before I play it.

JohnLegend you say you play Hi-Lo/Odd Even at the same time? How does that work? Do you record a spin and if it's lets say 9 you will mark down that spin in one column as Lo and in another column as Odd? Please tell me if that's correct.
Hi Anthony excellent post by the way, I am totaly in agreement about the sitting around passage. What you do Anthony is have all 8 possible patterns (barring the ZERO) for both HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. Written side by side example.
HHH--------OOO
LLL---------EEE
HLH--------OEO--ETC,ETC
As the spins come out you cross them out. Eventually you will have one pattern left. And you will also have one of the even chances QUALIFY before the other. This is your game 1 of the session. You proceed to bet AGAINST that 8th pattern. Should you lose. You now wait for the second even chance to qualify. And bet against the 8th pattern. But you use 4,8,16 instead of 1,2,4. You are highly likely to win this game. This recovering 4 sevenths of the loss from game 1. By playing in this fashion. Even if you only won 6 games out of every 7 you played. You will secure a longterm PROFIT. Which afterall is the name of the game.

Bettor 27

Quote from: Johnlegend on Sep 10, 03:09 AM 2011
As the spins come out you cross them out. Eventually you will have one pattern left. And you will also have one of the even chances QUALIFY before the other. This is your game 1 of the session. You proceed to bet AGAINST that 8th pattern. Should you lose. You now wait for the second even chance to qualify. And bet against the 8th pattern. But you use 4,8,16 instead of 1,2,4. You are highly likely to win this game. This recovering 4 sevenths of the loss from game 1. By playing in this fashion. Even if you only won 6 games out of every 7 you played. You will secure a longterm PROFIT. Which afterall is the name of the game.

Hi John,

Clarification please â€"

When you eventually get to the last pattern, do you bet AGAINST that pattern or FOR that pattern?

I ask this because I note the following:

(1) At the start of this thread it was bet AGAINST the pattern
(2) Half way through the thread it changed to bet FOR the pattern
(3) Now its bet AGAINST the pattern

Have you reverted back to betting AGAINST the pattern and can you explain why that changed?

seb coe

Quote from: Johnlegend on Sep 10, 03:09 AM 2011
Hi Anthony excellent post by the way, I am totaly in agreement about the sitting around passage. What you do Anthony is have all 8 possible patterns (barring the ZERO) for both HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. Written side by side example.
HHH--------OOO
LLL---------EEE
HLH--------OEO--ETC,ETC
As the spins come out you cross them out. Eventually you will have one pattern left. And you will also have one of the even chances QUALIFY before the other. This is your game 1 of the session. You proceed to bet AGAINST that 8th pattern. Should you lose. You now wait for the second even chance to qualify. And bet against the 8th pattern. But you use 4,8,16 instead of 1,2,4. You are highly likely to win this game. This recovering 4 sevenths of the loss from game 1. By playing in this fashion. Even if you only won 6 games out of every 7 you played. You will secure a longterm PROFIT. Which afterall is the name of the game.
Hi John,
After a loss on HL and you have recovered 4 units on OE, do you go back to HL in the next game? Or do you continue with OE until a loss and only then do you go back to HL? Thanks.

seb coe

Quote from: seb coe on Sep 10, 10:29 PM 2011
Hi John,
After a loss on HL and you have recovered 4 units on OE, do you go back to HL in the next game? Or do you continue with OE until a loss and only then do you go back to HL? Thanks.
Hi John,
After reading your post a second time, I now understand the way you are playing. Please ignore my questions.  :thumbsup: I suppose you are playing 2 games a session. Now what happens if you win the first game of the session but lose on the second.
Seb

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