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Started by Johnlegend, Sep 19, 03:43 PM 2012

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Johnlegend

Quote from: kevint3 on Oct 08, 03:45 PM 2012
JL...thank you for the clarification. Now you can see where some got confused.

I think this method is now clear as we have re-hashed every possible angle. Time to test it.

I like that same drink once in a while too.

thanks again
You are welcome. BV seriously tested me tonight. And I am sure a loss is coming. Taken to the 4th step 3 times in 6 games. But survived. Now 1045/0

kevint3

Here is a copy of the first game i played in a "Live" casino.  For me to track it is easiest to do

A= 1st DOZ     B= 2nd DOZ      C=3rd DOZ

Taken to first progression and won[attach=1]

kevint3

Here is a copy of the 2nd game I played in the casino.  This one was a real bear as the RNG really struggled to produce single four gaps let alone double ones.  This took about 30-35 mins to grind this game out.  I think/hope I did it right. 

[attach=1]

kevint3

Here is a pic of the RNG machine played at in the live casino

If you are wondering...while yes I did "win" the 2 games played. I did lose a total of $10 due to the fact to get the machine to start spinning I needed to bet on red and black. The zero came out a few times a hit me. When I did win my bets I only had a $1 on each of the dozens. Since i am testing these RNG's I am yet to bet "heavy"....need more work to make sure this method is legit.

Thank you for viewing.

Moxy

Quote from: kevint3 on Oct 08, 10:03 PM 2012
Here is a pic of the RNG machine played at in the live casino

If you are wondering...while yes I did "win" the 2 games played. I did lose a total of $10 due to the fact to get the machine to start spinning I needed to bet on red and black. The zero came out a few times a hit me. When I did win my bets I only had a $1 on each of the dozens. Since i am testing these RNG's I am yet to bet "heavy"....need more work to make sure this method is legit.

Thank you for viewing.

I have to know where those machines are?  They look awesome.  Can you spin for free?

Johnlegend

Quote from: kevint3 on Oct 08, 10:03 PM 2012
Here is a pic of the RNG machine played at in the live casino

If you are wondering...while yes I did "win" the 2 games played. I did lose a total of $10 due to the fact to get the machine to start spinning I needed to bet on red and black. The zero came out a few times a hit me. When I did win my bets I only had a $1 on each of the dozens. Since i am testing these RNG's I am yet to bet "heavy"....need more work to make sure this method is legit.

Thank you for viewing.
Yes Kevin, that's the problem I have at BV and the reason I have to employ several methods. By the time you reach your bet you can be 10 points down just from moving the RNG. If you could sit spins out like a live casino, Id already have at least 4000 points.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Oct 09, 01:28 AM 2012
Yes Kevin, that's the problem I have at BV and the reason I have to employ several methods. By the time you reach your bet you can be 10 points down just from moving the RNG. If you could sit spins out like a live casino, Id already have at least 4000 points.

BV increased the limits to 0.05 so its going to get tougher. Anyway personally i dont see any point in continuing it because we dont see the real breakdown of bets like on Bayes RNG. Most of the bets are placed just to keep wheel spinning. On Superman reports we just see mostly winning sessions but also some losing ones. Pity that Stef work was wasted due to the rules change.
Matt

kevint3

These machines have a minimum bet of usa $1. So $1 on red and $1 on black to get the wheel to spin to track.

Sam yes ...it is a continuation. There is only so much room on the paper to write. It goes from top to bottom...left to right.  In game 2 you will notice I had 4 seperate 4 gaps  before I actually got the double 4 gap game trigger. These 4 prior 4 gaps were deemed not valid due to the various amount of gaps between the actual double four gap. I almost had a game trigger but there was a 5 gap that deemed it not valid prior to the actual game trigger.  Again this is n the picture of "game 2" I am referring to.

Thank you

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Oct 09, 02:53 AM 2012
BV increased the limits to 0.05 so its going to get tougher. Anyway personally i don't see any point in continuing it because we don't see the real breakdown of bets like on Bayes RNG. Most of the bets are placed just to keep wheel spinning. On Superman reports we just see mostly winning sessions but also some losing ones. Pity that Stef work was wasted due to the rules change.
Matt when did this increase happen? It will be tougher but I will keep going anyway. Until Superman an me have made over 100K each. If necessary I will send Superman 120 euro so that the 5 cent min bets are the equivalent of the 1 cent bets I make now. It appears BV might be a little worried. Even though I'm smalltime at the moment. What no gambling establishment likes to see is someone who never loses or very rarely. That's worrying for them.

superman

QuoteBV increased the limits to 0.05

As far as I know it's only the no zero table that's changed so JL should still be ok
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Oct 09, 08:49 AM 2012

As far as I know it's only the no zero table that's changed so JL should still be ok
Okay Superman, yes we have to remember there's several versions.

KoolKat

Quote from: kevint3 on Oct 08, 09:51 PM 2012
Here is a copy of the 2nd game I played in the casino.  This one was a real bear as the RNG really struggled to produce single four gaps let alone double ones.  This took about 30-35 mins to grind this game out.  I think/hope I did it right. 

[attach=1]

Kevint3 Now i am completely lost why wait for 7 gaps before placing a bet.   You pictorals are great however Many thanks K

Johnlegend

Quote from: KoolKat on Oct 09, 03:02 PM 2012
Kevint3 Now i am completely lost why wait for 7 gaps before placing a bet.   You pictorals are great however Many thanks K
In Kevins example. There were 7 4 GAPS in total, but only ONE became a fully qualifed BET TRIGGER. For this to happen after we have established which dozen has given us our GAME TRIGGER (EXAMPLE BELOW) We need a Single 4 GAP. followed by a potential 4 GAP. Examples below.

-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------09-----05------DOZEN 1 IS THE GAME TRIGGER
-----04------07-----04------DOZEN 3 IS THE BET TRIGGER
-----06------05-----03------WE NOW BET THIS GOES BEYOND 4 ON THE NEXT SPIN BY COVERING DOZEN 1 AND DOZEN 2.

If it does we have won the bet if it doesn't we continue tracking until we get a repeat of this oppurtunity on the first dozen that presents it. FIVE is totally about allowing random to present the bet to us.

Unlike a rigid matrix method where you wait for something to happen on a grid. Here you will likely never have two games that look the same.

TwoCatSam

Holy Moses.  I understood that.  Either I'm sober or John is!!   ^-^
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

kevint3

Quote from: KoolKat on Oct 09, 03:02 PM 2012
Kevint3 Now i am completely lost why wait for 7 gaps before placing a bet.   You pictorals are great however Many thanks K

KoolKat...yes..true there were 7 4 gaps...but look at that pic again closely. remember we need any dozen to produce CONSECUTIVE 4 gaps for that to be a GAME TRIGGER.  Now looking at that pic..the first 4  four gaps you see are basically worthless as none are consecuetive to get our game started. John has stated that to be qualified as consecutive it can have no gaps greater then 4 between them.
In that pic I drew in where the consecutive or double four gap game trigger is.
Now that I had the double 4 gap I track further hoping and waiting for random to produce another 4 gap in any dozen. When it does track further and at the point that that dozen produces a 3 gap we bet. We bet that it WILL NOT be a 4 gap.
That part can be tricky to understand. 
I think of it like this....
We are "letting" random produce 1 double  (consecutive) 4 gap. In fact when playing you are begging it to.
We don't want them to produce anymore and bet that it won't. But how can you bet it won't?
well one has to "form"...in order to form ..we are begging random to produce a single four gap. And the start of another...notice I said start...once it is a 3 gap you must bet against it. if it does become a 4 gap you lose progression one. You then continue on looking for another 4 gap to form then the 3 gap bet. These have to be consecutive by Johns definition. The progression is a 4 step.
I am new to this and learning too.

I hope this helps.

Thank you

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