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[TwoCatSam]

I must ask:

D1
4
x
x.......these xs must all be "3 gaps" or less.  No fives or greater?
x
x
4

Kevint3

You are like St. Paul preaching the gospel of Jesus.  People couldn't understand Jesus, but Paul could speak to them.  (Something like that!)

Oh, Lordy!  One rum and coke and I've compared Jl to Jesus!!

Sam

[kevint3]

Sam..LMFAO..

Yes you are right..those x's must be 3 gaps or less to qualify as "consecutive" by John's definition.  A 5 gap or more would disqualify that first 4 gap.

Basically that is it right there in a nut shell Sam. You let the first one develop as a full double 4  gap..and all others after that first one become betting material.  It is just a matter of tracking at that point. I cannot be bothered writing every number down and use the A-B-C system of labeling the dozens when tracking.

See if you were trying to get TRUE consecutive (back to back) 4 gaps you would be waiting a long long time. I can see the reason now for the 3 gap or less allowance between them.

Good luck Sam....

[kevint3]

Yes Kevin, that's the problem I have at BV and the reason I have to employ several methods. By the time you reach your bet you can be 10 points down just from moving the RNG. If you could sit spins out like a live casino, Id already have at least 4000 points.

My goal is to play and win 4 games on 4 different machines each time I go into the casino. I will track zero losses that I get and on the 5th game my goal will be to recoup all zero losses.  Then walk out. Easier said then done...haha

[Proofreaders2000]

TwoCat if the users on here start to think JohnLegend is the Messiah, God is very concerned!

Ahem..where was I?

Agree with his system or not, JohnLegend presents his work with wide appeal and has "assistants" to help explain particulars.  (Very impressive if you ask me.)

I do miss Stackbundles from "The Zone" days years earlier.

[TwoCatSam]

Kevin3t

OK, let's say a five gap did form between the double four gap.  Two questions:

1.  Would you throw out the older four gap and start again with the newer one?
2.  Can you see what the five gap does that is so bad to the system?

Proof

It's not that I don't agree or disagree--I just don't understand it well enough to try it. 

I realize that if this does work, it will be a rather fantastic discovery?  Like the principle behind refrigeration or hydraulics.  I just have to see it to believe it. 

Sam

[Robeenhuut]

So from the beginning we had 3 essential changes.

1. In game trigger 2 4 gaps in the same dozen can not be separated by a greater than 4 gap,
2. Bet trigger can happen before a game trigger was formed (2nd 4 gap was formed in the same dozen),
3. You bet on any dozen that gives you a bet trigger - you don't have to stay on the first dozen that gives you a bet trigger

What about an original stipulation that if a game trigger and a bet trigger dozen are the same then
the gap between them has to be bigger than 4?

[Stepkevh]

RH,

Thats because the first double 4gap is already formed and have to be seperated.
Otherwise it would be 3 consecutive 4 gaps and not 2   

Somebody, correct me if i'm wrong but i think i'm on it 

[Robeenhuut]

Introduction. This method came to be after something clicked in my mind while revisiting THE ZONE. When I was struggling against Bayes RNG in the early days of my challenge. With the ZONE we would wait until a dozen had slept for 4 consecutive spins then attempt to get a hit between spins 5--8 using a 1,1,2,3=7 points risk progression. What came to my mind was before you get to five there has to be a FOUR. And its the behaviour of these FOURS that enabled me to get up to over 2000 points with relative ease against an RNG.

THE RULES.

1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5
4--Trigger to bet.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.

3, We now bet against that dozen producing two consecutive 4 gaps again, by betting it becomes a five or more. So we bet on the other two dozens.

4, We repeat this process for up to 4 games using the classic 1,3,9,27 progression. What we are in effect doing is betting against 5 consecutive double FOURS forming. I have never seen more than four doubles in a row so far. And that includes when Zero has hit.

5, Tracking can take between 30---60 spins to get your game. On Bayes RNG this was easy as it was lightning fast. On a live wheel it will require more patience of course. But its solid. And I truly believe its RNG proof too. As I have won over 700 games in a row against them. As always all questions are welcome.

Stef

Thats what i meant.

[Stepkevh]

Does this become invalid with the other changings ?

[Robeenhuut]

Does this become invalid with the other changings ?

I dont have a clue Steph.  I would do away with all the requirements about a gaps being longer or shorter than 4 but its John method. Just game trigger, bet trigger and place the first available bet.

[Johnlegend]

So from the beginning we had 3 essential changes.

1. In game trigger 2 4 gaps in the same dozen can not be separated by a greater than 4 gap,
2. Bet trigger can happen before a game trigger was formed (2nd 4 gap was formed in the same dozen),
3. You bet on any dozen that gives you a bet trigger - you don't have to stay on the first dozen that gives you a bet trigger

What about an original stipulation that if a game trigger and a bet trigger dozen are the same then
the gap between them has to be bigger than 4?

There were no changes Matt I just didn't go into explicit detail about every possibility on my original draft. As GLC said this method is both simple and complex at the same time.

Regarding an entire game on the same DOZEN, the GAME TRIGGER and BET TRIGGER must indeed be separated by a 5 GAP or more. EXAMPLE

-----D1
-----04
-----03
-----04-----GAME TRIGGER
-----07
-----04-----BET TRIGGER
-----03-----We now bet this goes beyond a 4 GAP by covering Dozen 2 and Dozen 3.

To those asking why must there be a gap no greater than 3 separating 4 GAPS in the game trigger? The reason is that's the whole point of the method. We are betting against randoms ability to keep forming gaps LESS than 5 for any great length of tme. I know from my days playing THE ZONE. Its very difficult for all three dozens to stay under 5 for long. That's where this idea came from.

[Robeenhuut]

There were no changes Matt I just didn't go into explicit detail about every possibility on my original draft. As GLC said this method is both simple and complex at the same time.

Regarding an entire game on the same DOZEN, the GAME TRIGGER and BET TRIGGER must indeed be separated by a 5 GAP or more. EXAMPLE

-----D1
-----04
-----03
-----04-----GAME TRIGGER
-----07
-----04-----BET TRIGGER
-----03-----We now bet this goes beyond a 4 GAP by covering Dozen 2 and Dozen 3.

Thanks for explanation and i dont have any problem with any changes after something is posted.

[SamNL]

Ok, I have to ask.


Let's say after we lost our first bet on dozen 1 and before there is a 5 gap there comes another 4 gap on the 1st dozen then this doesn't become our bet trigger, am I right?
Example:
-----D1
-----04
-----03
-----04 -Game trigger
-----05
-----04 -Bet trigger
-----04 -Lost 1st bet
-----03
-----04 -No bet trigger, am I right about this?

[marivo]

Atlantis glad you have it and Sam. Am now 1025/0

STEP 1----5 WINS
STEP 2----2 WINS
STEP 3----3 WINS
STEP 4----NOT REQUIRED.

What does 1025 mean? 1025 games? Are you in profit for 1025 units (playing 1 unit base bet)?

Also what does those wins 5,2,3....on the steps mean?

I just cant figure it out....

Thank you!

[ander]

The explanations of this strategy sure have produced many headaches . Great strategy though once you get it, even though there are times where you will wait a lot for the trigger.