The "Statistical Imbalance" fallacy

[Kimo Li]

Ok, so please enlighten me! You send me to a book! Ok, I'll buy it and read it. After this point, you gained an income. What do I get? Some clues that will send me to another book which I have to buy and get what? Some more clues and you get more money.

Bottom line - I get some clues, you get rich. I have no problem with you getting rich. You deserve it. But still, you know that saying: help me help you. Give something real in return!

Buying my book does not make me rich. For every book sold, I get 1 dollar.
I get nothing from you. Nothing for nothing seems about right.

[Steeefan2014]

Sorry, did it with some people. They simply disappeared.

My friend, my intention is to win, not to screw you up! As long as you predict this kind of income... why wouldn't ai pay?

[Joe]

No mathematical logic, therefore, not subjected to your mathematical parameters. Carlos knows the concept. He tries to explain to you all but nothing is registering.

There are no 'mathematical parameters' involved in understanding that on each spin each number is a likely as any other and that this holds no matter what numbers have come up in the past. This is just common sense. It's the same with rolling a die or flipping a coin.

Carlos talked about frequencies and tendencies etc. Do these concepts implicitly assume that you're using past spins to try to predict future spins, or not?

[Joe]

I show you proof and you will see the HG. Not a win win situation.

If you really wanted to prove that your methods worked it wouldn't be too difficult to do it. For instance you could get the method coded and set up a web site with an interface which would let players input spins and show the numbers to bet. The rules of the strategy would be hidden but the players would win. Everything would be under your control. You could give players a free trial and set up a monthly/weekly subscription service.

Soon it would spread far and wide that Kimo Li has a winning roulette system and you would have more players in your 'circle' than you could handle, and (sorry to mention it because I know it offends you) you would be making a bundle. In fact I can safely predict that you would never have to play roulette again, if you didn't want to.

But something tells me you would rather not do that. 

[falkor2k15]

Hey Kimo, could you please tell us a powerful concept about random that we might not already know that is central to your book - possibly something that relates to geometry?

[Kimo Li]

Hey Kimo, could you please tell us a powerful concept about random that we might not already know that is central to your book - possibly something that relates to geometry?

I can take a group of numbers, 12 numbers groups, and turn it to a 50/50 proposition.

[Kimo Li]

If you really wanted to prove that your methods worked it wouldn't be too difficult to do it. For instance you could get the method coded and set up a web site with an interface which would let players input spins and show the numbers to bet. The rules of the strategy would be hidden but the players would win. Everything would be under your control. You could give players a free trial and set up a monthly/weekly subscription service.

Soon it would spread far and wide that Kimo Li has a winning roulette system and you would have more players in your 'circle' than you could handle, and (sorry to mention it because I know it offends you) you would be making a bundle. In fact I can safely predict that you would never have to play roulette again, if you didn't want to.

But something tells me you would rather not do that. 

I am a Senior citizen with limited computer skills. I don't need to teach many people. I receive money from my existing teams, very loyal I might add. I love to play roulette.

[gizmotron2]

It does not matter what group of numbers one decides to track. It does not have to relate to the position of the wheel. It can be totally random. What people fail to understand is we are tracking characteristics, red, black, high, low, odd, even, dominate, subordinate, among other propriety characteristics. The outcome results in high target values. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

Sounds just like Reading Randomness. I've been reading this thread, got this far so far. You take sets from groups like Red in one set and Blacks in the other set from the grouping Red/Black. Then you look for characteristics like singles on the weak side as just one powerful example of an opportunity.  ... and now for the level two lesson, I'm guessing, you learn that just because you recognized a working characteristic does not guarantee that you will win.  You need to learn to see your phases or trends of effectiveness too. I see perfect intervals of losses that are all filled with perfect looking opportunities. It just happens to go down as a losing streak even though you see perfect occurring sequences of trends. This is why people give up on using characteristics in sets and groupings. They have all the proof that they need that it can't and does not work. Only they should have learned the next level before giving up. They must learn to react to and live with losing streaks. That takes a lot of practice and skill. In no way is this method mechanical. A person needs to know when to attack and when to back off or even withdraw. That comes from knowing what to do and when to do it. Hence teaching , learning, and gaining experience.

It's not the sets and groupings that are magic. It's in knowing what to do with them after they show opportunity. I use to ask people that think they know that all this is baloney what they would do if they discovered a sleeping dozen in the middle of a 30 spin nap. Every so called expert said that you can't know that a dozen is sleeping. Some people just can't be taught.

[6th-sense]

Kimo....do not fall into this debate...and for everyone else show some respect...Kimo is a genuine guy..
He personally sent me an autographed copy of his book to my home address...

At his own expense ....steves  roulette computers looks great in a basement..with a fixed camera..but come on guys...put a button hole camera in your jacket...think you could aim that right?...

hell get a pair of specs....steve,s shown no real live proof either..only the principle...no disrespect to you either steve...concept is good but we also don,t hear anything from anyone that it works...

could be a non disclosure agreement for that...and kimo,s non disclosure is loyalty..

don,t see the difference 

i can only apologize Kimo for the blatant hostility...hope you are well...a lot of your stuff in the book except global pies is attatched to the ayk tracker...which i had asked ayk to put in well before you sent me the book...after reading it i see the correlation ..

hope you are well

[Steeefan2014]

From my side, I never said that Kimo is not a genuine guy or that he's a scammer. I remember saying that I respect his work and if what he created is real and provides an income, I am willing to pay! No problem with that...

[gizmotron2]

It's amazing how people fail to understand the meaning of the term 'independent'. If spins are independent it means that tracking data has no merit because knowledge of past spins doesn't give you information about future spins. You can call it frequencies or tendencies or rhythm or whatever, but all those concepts imply using past spins to predict future spins.

If a spin is independent, and it is, then how can a constant for independence cause or prevent a coincidence from continuing? In other words an independent result can be an accumulation of independent results. You can confirm if a coincidence continues or ends without needing a power of prediction. But the real question is, can you deal with a coincidence knowing it is a culmination of independent results? Why get stuck on prediction as a needed power? Everybody is stuck on prediction and claiming it is the power being described. Why can't you just see a coincidence and deal with it as if no power caused it? Because no power did cause it. All you have to do is think of a way to deal with coincidences. That takes an unstuck mind.

[gizmotron2]

I can take a group of numbers, 12 numbers groups, and turn it to a 50/50 proposition.

So can I. One way is to see the sleeping dozen and to bet one side of the remaining two dozens with 20 units and the other non sleeping dozen with 10 units. That's a total of 30 units bet. If the dozen with the 20 units hit then I get 30 more units. That's a 50 /50 bet. If the dozen with the 10 units hit I get a net break even as if the bet never happens. I bet 30 units and netted 30 units. If I lose the bet because the sleeping dozen wakes up then I lose 30 units. Once again this is a 50/50 bet. But I'm covering two thirds of the table on each try.  Big deal, whoopty doo. I shared this concept more than ten years ago at Gambler's Glen. I don't like waiting on sleeping dozens anymore.

[Kimo Li]

Kimo....do not fall into this debate...and for everyone else show some respect...Kimo is a genuine guy..
He personally sent me an autographed copy of his book to my home address...

At his own expense ....steves  roulette computers looks great in a basement..with a fixed camera..but come on guys...put a button hole camera in your jacket...think you could aim that right?...

hell get a pair of specs....steve,s shown no real live proof either..only the principle...no disrespect to you either steve...concept is good but we also don,t hear anything from anyone that it works...

could be a non disclosure agreement for that...and kimo,s non disclosure is loyalty..

don,t see the difference 

i can only apologize Kimo for the blatant hostility...hope you are well...a lot of your stuff in the book except global pies is attatched to the ayk tracker...which i had asked ayk to put in well before you sent me the book...after reading it i see the correlation ..

hope you are well

Hello six-sense,

Thank you for your kind words. Don't worry, these attacks are the result of people who know only what they know and cannot imagine that an HG looks like. They are frustrated.

Take care of yourself,
Kimo

[MumboJumbo]

I am a Senior citizen with limited computer skills. I don't need to teach many people. I receive money from my existing teams, very loyal I might add. I love to play roulette.

I think you are buddha here 

[Kimo Li]

So can I. One way is to see the sleeping dozen and to bet one side of the remaining two dozens with 20 units and the other non sleeping dozen with 10 units. That's a total of 30 units bet. If the dozen with the 20 units hit then I get 30 more units. That's a 50 /50 bet. If the dozen with the 10 units hit I get a net break even as if the bet never happens. I bet 30 units and netted 30 units. If I lose the bet because the sleeping dozen wakes up then I lose 30 units. Once again this is a 50/50 bet. But I'm covering two thirds of the table on each try.  Big deal, whoopty doo. I shared this concept more than ten years ago at Gambler's Glen. I don't like waiting on sleeping dozens anymore.

We are talking about two different approaches. I use six units. You have no clue. What you preach in your random thread is pure non-sense. Do you know why you cannot win?, because you are a compulsive gambler. Sure you can make a profit. But like every single roulette player who thinks they have the HG, they lack the discipline to execute the rules. One slip, you are in tilt mode because you "think" you can recover. But you can't, you don't have the proper bank to execute your strategy.

You are the only person I know that claim to beat the game of roulette; and yet, nothing to show for. I deliberately avoid posting on your threads because you are a bully. You carry an arrogance towards all people who discredit your work. Speak plainly; maybe someone will listen. I have no respect for you. Stay in your lane.