So where should we fokus on...?

[RouletteExplorer]

If there are some people that have really found a way to make consistent money from roulette(without Advantage-play)then it is certain that they are not in any roulette forum.
They are out there making money ... (And this is IF there is a way)
The people that are joining roulette forums are the people that are in the process of finding a winning system.

IF a member in a roulette forum will ever find a winning way then he will abandon the roulette forum and go and make money.
So all the people in here including me are still RouletteExplorers...I don't care if some of us are good or bad explorers. Infact everyone thinks that is a good explorer...The point is to find a system that can makes us money and live the rest of our life like a rich person.

But please let s not fill the Topic with those posts....
This Topic was made for NEW IDEAS to be posted .
Thank you

[Bayes]

What about kelly and snowman? or even winkel, are they all liars? It's silly to say that ALL members of roulette forums are losers looking for a way to win. There are other reasons why people join forums; maybe they just like being in the company of like-minded people, or want to pick up new ideas.

[RouletteExplorer]

Bayes why don't you read the post carefully?
I posted EXEPT Advantage-play ! 

[Bayes]

Bayes why don't you read the post carefully?
I posted EXEPT Advantage-play ! 

And I said winkel also. Besides, why did you not include advantage players? why should they not also be out there making money 24 hours a day, and far too busy to post in forums? Sorry, but it's just ridiculous.

[Drazen]

@ rouletteexplorer

Again wrong my friend. But please don't think i am just contradicting you.. And  i ll tell you hint after i ll explain you something.

True is that amoungst as are very good players and knowledable people... Other are just as i told you in first post... Waiting to get something for free and to use without thinking and to get rich overnight.

Sad thing about all of this, is that some good things are in threads with very few replyies... People don't see it, what is another proof that they don't even know what they want or what could use them... You gave them gold, but they are lazy just to put it in their pockets... or to shut shovel in the sand to digg a hole to get to the gold.. Eventhough doc Ophis did almost that for them with his MST.

When you spent some time here on fourm you will see how it breaths... And if you are real explorer ready for hard work as you said, it won't be hard for you to get to some good useful things here.

Well if you didn't by now you can check systems with most replyes or the ones implemented in Ophises MST. Most of them are good. Some even very good. And of course to read all threads for every that posted system. And then you can check what knowledge and where is maybe "hidden", waiting to be found only for people who deserves it... This forum is quite interesting place after all. 

Regards

Drazen

[Bayes]

@ rouletteplayer,

I'm 99% sure you're Jordan/viper/Jean-Claude, I recognize the style. You've been banned from this forum in the past. As far as I'm concerned you can continue to post, but Steve may disagree.

You dismiss money-management and virtually all ways of playing systems. What's left? I really don't see the point of this thread. As far as I'm concerned the game is 90% money management, and all the MM schemes I've seen are quite simplistic and mechanical. There are MANY options which haven't been explored.

If you deny that any MM can work without increasing the accuracy of predictions, then you're left with AP, but you rule that out, so as far as you're concerned, it's impossible to win, period.

In which case I have to ask what is the point of this thread?

[RouletteExplorer]

drazen_cro I don t care to read a good system...I care to read or to make a WINNING SYSTEM.
All systems are good...but they aren t winners.

Bayes The reason that I am excluding the Adnantage Players is that they don t have an easy way to win. They don t just sit at a table and start betting. They have to search for the correct conditions and record a lot of numbers.
As for the other things that you posted I can see clearly that what you need is a fight. And as I stated before I am not looking for fights.

If the most of the members don t find usefull to try and bring new ideas to the table , then you can lock the topic.
Thank you

[Drazen]

Huh explorer.. All the best in seeking your new way...

Drazen