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“Biased” wheel players may win due to luck. Non existent, sort of like vampires

Started by RouletteGhost, Apr 15, 08:29 PM 2018

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RouletteGhost

its obvious why he is here. to make a point that "turbo is wrong", with steves support of course.
It will go downhill quickly

I guess the theater "over there" was not large enough
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Steve

Maybe, maybe not. But while he is not breaking rules, he can contribute.
Like I said he is not the one causing trouble at the moment.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: Steve on Apr 19, 08:02 PM 2018
Maybe, maybe not. But while he is not breaking rules, he can contribute.
Like I said he is not the one causing trouble at the moment.

which is predictable....
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Steve

Not sure what you mean by that. But you know RG, you're not an angel either. At times you're just as much of an antagonist. Especially with the whole ken saga. You were almost as bad as each other. Ken was only worse because he kept going at the brief times you stopped. The whole bickering thing wastes my time having to tend to it. Caleb is allowed to share his views. If he steps over the line, first consider other people's treatment of him. It wont excuse a poor response from him, but you'll better understand the situation.

What I see is his views are unpopular, truth or not. Even when he's not being condescending, he is attacked as if he was being condescending. Then he responds by being condescending. It's his way of saying "I'm not the one with the problem. You are."

And sometimes yes he can be a downright ass. But the majority of the time, his posts are helpful if people read carefully. For example, the vampire thread as I see it was using humor to make a point. Nothing else seems to work and truth is ignored anyway. You see such posts as negative. But I see them as something that may actually help people, although it might not be the best approach. But then again, blatantly explaining it in very clear english doesnt work either.

You can argue that he throws the whole forum out of balance. But actually the forum is very heavily out of balance towards losing approaches. Although the truth is unpopular, the truth is the truth. And its more beneficial than BS. Don't you agree?

You argue system players like to tinker and dont care about facts. Actually I think the majority of people here actually want to make money, and take roulette seriously.

Is it really that hard to be respectful of each other? Not to like each other, just stay out of each other's way. Remember if people don't like what he has to say, then start discussions in the system players section where he cant post.

Either way you're not going to like everyone. Perhaps don't waste time fighting against people you don't like.

And like I said, if he or anyone breaks the rules, they'll go on moderation. It's a few clicks.
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RouletteGhost

a wise man once said "Snowman is cleaning and rummaging around his old treasure chest . Cleans it, irons it and presents it as NEW."
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

cht

Quote from: Steve on Apr 19, 07:38 PM 2018
I don't particularly care for bias analysis, or vb. But they are valid methods including in today's casinos.

For bias, you realistically need a network of scouts. For vb, suitable conditions are much more common but you still need to scout around a bit.
VB's edge is a lot larger than wheel bias with much less variance.

VB is easy to learn. Just that there's a lot of misinformation on the internet.

It's not difficult to find suitable wheels. The difficult wheels can still be beaten but the edge is small.

My problem with rc, example jafco is that it picked pockets in sectors that are unlikely to get hit.

Out of the 4predictions ALWAYS at least 2 of them is outside the predicted sector.

So I wonder why the computer make the mistake of picking pockets outside the possible sector which makes me question it's accuracy.

Steve

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 19, 08:52 PM 2018
a wise man once said "Snowman is cleaning and rummaging around his old treasure chest . Cleans it, irons it and presents it as NEW."

Another man once said... "and you're still attacking Caleb."
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The General

Quote from: cht on Apr 19, 09:01 PM 2018
VB's edge is a lot larger than wheel bias with much less variance.

VB is easy to learn. Just that there's a lot of misinformation on the internet.

In general vb has a higher edge.  Not always, but usually.  Yes there is some disinformation.  Unfortunately some of it's purposefully put there. I'm guilty of it too. 

QuoteMy problem with rc, example jafco is that it picked pockets in sectors that are unlikely to get hit.

There are many ways out there.  Some have short comings.  Some are better than others.

QuoteOut of the 4predictions ALWAYS at least 2 of them is outside the predicted sector.

So I wonder why the computer make the mistake of picking pockets outside the possible sector which makes me question it's accuracy.




If you want to be good with a computer, become good without one first.  Take the time to study the fundamentals if you don't already know them. 
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: Steve on Apr 19, 09:03 PM 2018
Another man once said... "and you're still attacking Caleb."

before or after he called people retards?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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Steve

In response to someone selling a system that did not work, Caleb said "This is retarded. Shame on you for trying to pull a scam."

In retrospect, moderating him just for that was unjustified. He did not call anyone a retard. At least not here.

RG this could go in circles forever. I think we both have better things to do.
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Roulettebeater

It seems most members here are pensioner and have nothing to do than lose money to the house and write silly remarks on forum

:)
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

maestro

QuoteIt seems most members here are pensioner and have nothing to do than lose money to the house and write silly remarks on forum


just a silly assumption i guess :twisted:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Roulettebeater

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Apr 20, 12:43 PM 2018
Roulettebeater,

Can you tell us about your style of AP play?

Privately, only!
i don't discuss sensitive information publicly
sorry!
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

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