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MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

Started by Johnlegend, Feb 06, 03:00 PM 2011

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eureka

Quote from: Johnlegend on Feb 18, 06:01 PM 2011
Nice touch GLC, Well I am dizzy what a day of testing. I have now played 240 games of matrix vertical and won them ALL. In doing so I have reached a new mark. 480 POINTS. that's 3 times my risk of 160 POINTS. So I am very pleased about this. BeLow is a breakdown of the strikerate literally step by step.

STEP1----151 WINS
STEP2----59 WINS
STEP3----23 WINS
STEP4----7 WINS

Something I have been thinking about is the fourth step. Is the 54 point risk justified when the vast majority of the wins come in the first 3 steps????? This thought applies to SCOOBY DOOS EXCELLENT matrix 3. What I believe would be the best way to handle it, would be to only bet against a 4 quad or 4 trip forming. The thinking is. That recovering 26 lost points Is going to be a lot easier, than 80. And upon suffering a loss. We could play for two points a win using double stakes 52 points risk. For a maximum of 10 games. Hey presto. Nearly all your loss recovered and you carry on at 26 points risk for the 3 step progression. What do you guys think???

Hi Johnlegend,

I am also thinking about the number of steps... Now do you use a 3 steps prog, 4 steps or 5 five steps?

Thank you

eureka

If winnings come majoritarily within the first 3 steps as underlined in the previous post by Johnlegend, we could play 2 X 3 steps :

1-1 4-4 13-13 (36 units) and 2-2 8-8 26-26 (72 units) = a 108 units BR instead of a whole 242 BR (5 single steps)

If a loss happens on the first part (minus 36 units), recover it in 18 games with the second part of the prog. This is a one hour and a half game on a slingshot roulette, playing dozens and columns.

Moreover this way allows us to place a 10 units bets and win a unit every time even if there is a miss (on a slingshot live roulette)... That would make 100 units won every hour playing dozens and columns.

What do you think all about this way of betting?  ???

jon86

Johnlegend.


Whats your opinion about this. Just play like we have or?

I still play like always and have most of of the wins on 2 or 3 stepp of progression.

Jon :)

atlantis

Hi,

Another possible way to play MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD is to record the directions (movements) of the dozen results. Firstly record a "starting number" (last number spun) and determine the appropriate dozen.

For instance, in my example I record 17B (last number) = DOZEN 2

I now track and record in a matrix7 the "movements":  (L)eft, (R)ight or (S)ame

If the next result after 17 is dozen 3 it is recorded as Right; whereas if dozen 1 hit after 17 it would be recorded as Left. If dozen 2 repeated after the 17 then it is recorded as Same...

(In the case of a ZERO result occuring, I record it but class this a no-result. I then use the dozen before the zero to calculate the next movement result)

Start number = 17 (dozen 2)

Now begin the matrix.

MATRIX 7 (real casino numbers)
=======
R  S  L  S  R  L  S
R  L  L  S  S  R  R
R  L  S  S  S  L  L
L  R  L  L  R  S  S -- won col1  +1 ; won col4  +1
L  S  R  S  S  L  L
S  S  L  S  L  S  0
R  S  S  L  S  S  S
S  S  L  0  S  L  S -- lost col2  -2
L  R  S  S  R  L  L
R  R  R  R  R  R  L
S  L  L  R  L  S  L
R  S  L  S  S  L  S --won col7 +3

+3pts in 84 spins.


The results show the movements that occurred via the results happening after the starting number (17) - so you can see that in the first line:
R  S  L  S  R L  S
the corresponding dozens hit in sequence were:
3  3  2  2  3  2  2

Note that with this variation you are not tracking dozens - rather movements.

A movement form Dozen3 to Dozen 1 is marked as a (R)ight movement.
A movement from Dozen 1 to Dozen 3 is regarded as a (L)eft movement

I don't know what the practicalities, consequences or eventualities are of playing in this manner  - but apart from the different recording everything else is played exactly the same as MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.
If anything, it may "fool" RANDOM even more !?

One idea would to play this matrix in tandem with the regular approach instead of columns to get more bets...
Some credit for this thought is due to an earlier original idea shared with me by member Stackbundles.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Post

atlantis i like the idea of following the movement of the dozens going to give it a try soon  ;)

Johnlegend

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Quote from: jon86 on Mar 25, 07:01 AM 2011
Johnlegend.


what's your opinion about this. Just play like we have or?

I still play like always and have most of of the wins on 2 or 3 stepp of progression.

Jon :)
What I believe is when you enter the cycle more than anything determines your success for your session. Even the FIVE QUAD Twister saw yesterday would be a different story if you shifted one spin left or right. Thats why you can win hundreds of times with MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.

jon86

Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 25, 10:16 AM 2011
OWhat I believe is when you enter the cycle more than anything determines your success for your session. Even the FIVE QUAD Twister saw yesterday would be a different story if you shifted one spin left or right. that's why you can win hundreds of times with MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.


Exactly  :thumbsup:

incekt

best system ever. [period] . made $100 in the last 2 days  :xd:
all the same... them watching
to entertain
all gone shames... small fishes to beat the game

incekt

after i got back from the casino tonight,- i looked at the numbers and considered an anti-version of it using flat bets when there where no doubles above the slot- it worked half the time... yeah man- i think your sh!t is SOLID!!!  :girl_to: :girl_to: :girl_to:
all the same... them watching
to entertain
all gone shames... small fishes to beat the game

jon86

Quote from: incekt on Mar 26, 02:57 AM 2011
Best system ever. [period] . made $100 in the last 2 days  :xd:
:thumbsup:

Its the best.

paul2007

Can somebody please tell me,what page is  John's rules on! Been reading through and this looks very good!  I play on Live dealer Ladbrokes in England and i would love to get some of my money back off them :D :D :D

Thanks. . . .  8)

Johnlegend

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Quote from: atlantis on Mar 25, 07:49 AM 2011
Hi,

Another possible way to play MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD is to record the directions (movements) of the dozen results. Firstly record a "starting number" (last number spun) and determine the appropriate dozen.

For instance, in my example I record 17B (last Onumber) = DOZEN 2

I now track and record in a matrix7 the "movements":  (L)eft, (R)ight or (S)ame

If the next result after 17 is dozen 3 it is recorded as Right; whereas if dozen 1 hit after 17 it would be recorded as Left. If dozen 2 repeated after the 17 then it is recorded as Same...

(In the case of a ZERO result occuring, I record it but class this a no-result. I then use the dozen before the zero to calculate the next movement result)

Start number = 17 (dozen 2)

Now begin the matrix.

MATRIX 7 (real casino numbers)
=======
R  S  L  S  R  L  S
R  L  L  S  S  R  R
R  L  S  S  S  L  L
L  R  L  L  R  S  S -- won col1  +1 ; won col4  +1
L  S  R  S  S  L  L
S  S  L  S  L  S  0
R  S  S  L  S  S  S
S  S  L  0  S  L  S -- lost col2  -2
L  R  S  S  R  L  L
R  R  R  R  R  R  L
S  L  L  R  L  S  L
R  S  L  S  S  L  S --won col7 +3

+3pts in 84 spins.


The results show the movements that occurred via the results happening after the starting number (17) - so you can see that in the first line:
R  S  L  S  R L  S
the corresponding dozens hit in sequence were:
3  3  2  2  3  2  2

Note that with this variation you are not tracking dozens - rather movements.

A movement form Dozen3 to Dozen 1 is marked as a (R)ight movement.
A movement from Dozen 1 to Dozen 3 is regarded as a (L)eft movement

I don't know what the practicalities, consequences or eventualities are of playing in this manner  - but apart from the different recording everything else is played exactly the same as MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.
If anything, it may "fool" RANDOM even more !?

One idea would to play this matrix in tandem with the regular approach instead of columns to get more bets...
Some credit for this thought is due to an earlier original idea shared with me by member Stackbundles.

A.
Atlantis hi, are you sure you arent related to Scooby Do, the way you continually push for new angles to approach a method reminds me so much of him. This is interesting, you are trying to read the flow of Random more accurately nice work.

ZigZag

MATRIX 7 (real casino numbers)
=======
R  S  L  S  R  L  S
R  L  L  S  S  R  R
R  L  S  S  S  L  L     L W L
L  R  L  L  R  S  S     W W W W
L  S  R  S  S  L  L
S  S  L  S  L  S  0     W
R  S  S  L  S  S  S     L W
S  S  L  0  S  L  S     L W
L  R  S  S  R  L  L     W W
R  R  R  R  R  R  L     W
S  L  L  R  L  S  L      W W L
R  S  L  S  S  L  S     W W


Great work Atlantis. here is betting both trips and quads using your matrix  :smile:

malcop

Quote from: ZigZag on Mar 26, 07:55 AM 2011
MATRIX 7 (real casino numbers)
=======
R  S  L  S  R  L  S
R  L  L  S  S  R  R
R  L  S  S  S  L  L     L W L
L  R  L  L  R  S  S     W W W W
L  S  R  S  S  L  L
S  S  L  S  L  S  0     W
R  S  S  L  S  S  S     L W
S  S  L  0  S  L  S     L W
L  R  S  S  R  L  L     W W
R  R  R  R  R  R  L     W
S  L  L  R  L  S  L      W W L
R  S  L  S  S  L  S     W W


Great work Atlantis. here is betting both trips and quads using your matrix  :smile:
Good results are you playing vertical and horizontal?

I ask because in your example I could see a lot of horizontal examples that you could have played?

Either way I like this idea of playing for the direction, very good.


ZigZag

Quote from: malcop on Mar 26, 09:22 AM 2011
Good results are you playing vertical and horizontal?

I ask because in your example I could see a lot of horizontal examples that you could have played?

Either way I like this idea of playing for the direction, very good.



Only tried playing vertical so far but will play a few sessions tonight both vertical and horizontal trips/quads and see if i can flat bet it  ;D

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