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Title: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 09, 07:42 AM 2016
With 15 pages to look over,  i'll just ask.

How many units should you take to the table? 100? 1000? or 4000?
Has it not been said most players do not have a big enough bank roll.

So how much
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 07:55 AM 2016
Typically when i play with $5 units i brint $200

For a weekend in AC $1000

Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 08:30 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 07:55 AM 2016Typically when i play with $5 units i brint $200

Only 40 units depth??? WOW
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 08:31 AM 2016
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 08:30 AM 2016
Only 40 units depth??? WOW

Im not a risky player

If i win i win. If i lose it doesnt hurt

Lol

Lately ive been playing with casinos money

Well i really cant say lately. But in general

Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 09, 09:01 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 07:55 AM 2016
Typically when i play with $5 units i brint $200

For a weekend in AC $1000


Quote from: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 08:30 AM 2016
Only 40 units depth??? WOW

So 40 units to play with, now we hear the big dogs say they buy in for, cough, $4000 and use big value chips, cough, $25 unit, not many then, 160. Can see why no more than 4 #'s
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 09:07 AM 2016
For any system and not advantage play (signature,  computers,  VB etc) I think anything less than 1000 units depth is doomed.  I actually would prefer to play with bots online more hours with even smaller.  Like 0,10 euro unit and 500 1000 euro bankroll (5000-10000+ units depth)  Then I MAY have any small chance ;)

You need huge depth inside the table limits to have a chance at roulette
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 09:13 AM 2016
I play conservatively and not every spin and i switch machines after 1 win

Im very careful lol
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 09, 09:20 AM 2016
Yes on the FOBT in licensed shops you must never play with £1 units with a max bet of £100, i use £200 with £200 back up,using .25p unit.
Those non-hit averages help.
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 09, 09:27 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 09:13 AM 2016
I play conservatively and not every spin and i switch machines after 1 win

Im very careful lol

Good to move after a win. Do you know if the machines give there own #'s or are all machines getting #'s from same server
speculation here,but they think the FOBT can give its own #'s now as when 2 players hit the button at same time, the same number came, but this does not happen so much now,so could be getting the # directly from the machine.
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 09, 09:31 AM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 09, 09:27 AM 2016
Good to move after a win. Do you know if the machines give there own #'s or are all machines getting #'s from same server
speculation here,but they think the FOBT can give its own #'s now as when 2 players hit the button at same time, the same number came, but this does not happen so much now,so could be getting the # directly from the machine.


My local casino has airball and rng

Its under debate whether or not the airball is truly random

There are different airball machines and diff brands
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: MrJ on Sep 09, 06:08 PM 2016
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 08:30 AM 2016
Only 40 units depth??? WOW

Always remember, UNIT depth and spin DEPTH are two different things. I like to look at (prior to going) how many SPINS can I get with my BR assuming NO hits. What is the minimum number of spins before going home pissed off?

Ken
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 09, 06:28 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 09, 06:08 PM 2016
Always remember, UNIT depth and spin DEPTH are two different things. I like to look at (prior to going) how many SPINS can I get with my BR assuming NO hits. What is the minimum number of spins before going home pissed off? cough

Ken
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: Toplivecasinos on Dec 03, 02:02 AM 2016
Bet small and see if your having a bad day. If your lucky then continue playing small until your good enough to play big. Managing loses is good for bank roll.
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 02, 06:57 AM 2017
I guess no one knows the size of bank roll we should use, as only 4 members gave a comment. I even took the finger of Mr J's comment as he's right.

As not a top dog with 1000's to use, i have usually a 1000 units to use, but think it should go to 2000 units. Which would be recreational money, not the mortgage money.

So any comments on the size needed, iggiv and le chiffe talked of it but where?
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: rouletteKEY on Mar 02, 08:47 AM 2017
Depends on a ton of things

Betting inside or outside...negative or positive progressions...or both?

How do you play?

If I am betting 2 or 3 inside numbers...and I play with both negative and positive progressions...3000-5000 units would be reasonable although if things weren't looking good I would never approach laying the whole amount.  But if I was down 1000 it wouldn't be a big deal with 2-4 left in my pocket...if I only took 1000 it changes your perspective if you're drawn down say 800.

You have to have enough in your pocket compared to your bet size (and potential bet size) that the house's seemingly unlimited funding advantage is realistically nullified by your approach.

If I can start at 1 unit inside and the table max is 50u inside...I can carry that quite a ways on a negative progression and exploit it with a positive one.  The problem is...if you have 3000-5000 as your pocket (then assuming your real gambling bank is 20000-75000)...do wins at 1, 3 and even 5u make it worthwhile.

Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: maestro on Mar 02, 09:04 AM 2017
5000 for 1$ bets on numbers...dont know for dozens and other crap
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 02, 09:59 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 09, 07:42 AM 2016
With 15 pages to look over,  i'll just ask.

How many units should you take to the table? 100? 1000? or 4000?
Has it not been said most players do not have a big enough bank roll.

So how much

$1000 divided into six bankrolls @ $1 betting units should suffice
Title: Re: Bank Roll?
Post by: RP501 on Sep 15, 11:14 PM 2017
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Sep 09, 09:07 AM 2016For any system and not advantage play (signature,  computers,  VB etc) I think anything less than 1000 units depth is doomed.  I actually would prefer to play with bots online more hours with even smaller.  Like 0,10 euro unit and 500 1000 euro bankroll (5000-10000+ units depth)  Then I MAY have any small chance

I agree.  10,000 units should cover it, but I've seen a rare losing period where it came kinda close to maxing that out, using the Labby Calculator 1.5 .  link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3619.15

I now plan to just have 20,000 units, just in case a super rare losing pattern suddenly shows up.  That way I'll always be in the "comfort zone" (no fear of running out of money) despite unusual losing periods.  ;-)