Didn't know where to put this, but the 75% is random, so if mods not happy for it to be in this section, then they can move it.
What you will see is
1. spins 1-10, if a repeat is there then the 75 % is showing, over time we will see if holds true.
2. KTF. Back at beginning of 2016 it was could make £50/+50, but as with all methods things change and now its take first profit after spin 10
3. Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit, by using the non-hit column.
4. if you look in repeat column, you should be able to work out Hotties those hot #'s that you are after. ( we'll see if a number repeats for a third time after spin 20 ( usually see that happen more than in spins 11-20) )
repeat in spins 1-10, yes
1st profit +8
KTF if you can keep going +50 spin 45
Hottie/repeat came early spin 14, #31
Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit +4 spin 74
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I didn't want to use this set of spins, they are airball like Morts, but are Jackpot.
spins 1-10 theres the repeat
so 1st profit +8
KTF +50
Now a repeat of #'s going 3 from 2 after 20 th spin has gone, so leave repeats alone, remember Celtic he didn't like a # thats shown 3 times, he'd reset.
Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit, not enough spins. The checkpoint box is ok,apart from the spins 31-40, i've tried to correct but its beyond me, the point should read 21,-3
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Heres the reset
spin 1-10 theres the repeat,what 75% is about.
1st profit +7
KTF -91 but never going to be enough #'s to know the outcome
going 3 from 2 after 20th spin, +29
This is your learning,like Azim said in GUT, practice, practice, practice,
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Heres Morts #'s
1-10 no repeat
KTF, 1st profit +9
Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit and take 1st profit from betting the remaing 8#'s +8
Now the Hotties
Can you remember all the pointers?
Me i like after 20th spin a # to go 3 from 2 - as you see 10 spins -29, now heres the pointer if to many drop some, so why not drop all apart from the #21.
So the bet is 1 # at 2 units, another goes to 3 so add you see the win, end +15
The part not to have done what we want is spins 1-10, give a repeat, do you carry on with the above, if can watch spins 11-20 build does it give the repeat as if they are spins 1-10?
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If this was where Mort started Bingo
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Morts today
Another 10/10
KTF 1st profit +9
Flat bet remainning 8 non-hit, take 1st profit +25
3 from 2 happened before spin 20
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What happens if you was to start 10 spins later, you've been held up,phone, couldn't find parking space etc:
You have seen the actual spins from today in previous reply.
Now as we are reducing spins flat bet remainning 8#'s is not going to always be there,
But KTF 1st profit and KTF 50/+50 will.
A number going 3 from 2 i'll look at as i post. ( would need a bit of curve fitting :lol:)
So its all about the stream of numbers, the TROT, there i've got it in PRIYANKA, now if lady luck is not on your side, your going to be saying i should started earlier or if only i started later or was on the other table, you get the picture.
Lets see what happens, lets see if 10/10 rears its ugly head. No real thoughts about the repeat in 1st 10 spins, something to ponder.
1-10 repeat, 3 from a 2 to early. Flat bet remainning 8, -83, KTF's win.
So disarster for flat bet, the rest as we expect.
How will 10 spins later go
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So 10 spins later
10/10 shows, Rest as we expect. Keep an eye on checkpoints that Pri supplied, look at spin 60, the avg for non-hit is 30.5 from records
A # going 3 from 2 spin 30 +8, remember i'd wait for 20 spins.
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10/10, Rest win. 3 from 2, +19 spin 25
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so if we walked/started here 40 spins later, 1-10 repeat there, KTF's win,flat bet wins.
Now the 3 from 2. So start after spin 20 bet 4#'s, spin 30 #10 but be minus, so do a denzie drop some, just bet the hot #10 with 2 units, +24
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1st 10 gets repeat. KTF's win. Flat bet 8 not enough #'s. 3 from 2, well previous sheet shows why, came early
60 spins avg close enough ?
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If we are starting here, the repeat is in 1-10, KTF's win. 3 from 2 to early
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starting here would have you Keeping The Faith. +63
The 3 from 2 is there, start with 7#'s after 20th spin,+29 and spins 1-10 no repeat
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if starting now all would be good KTF's win
1-10 has the repeat
3 from 2 to early
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nearly done
1-10 repeat
KTF's win
the #33 is to early, well before 20th spin
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last one
KTF 1st profit
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So from the start of the 117 spins, this stream of #'s has been good for KTF's.
With seen betting 3 from 2 wins.
1-10 has more repeats than 10/10, but those 10/10 could be costly.
Is it Knowledge or luck
Heres the Jackpot #'s
Only flat bet remaining 8#'s not there as not enough spins.
Can you see
How many by spin 60 :thumbsup:
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EF-Bet today
The check point shows repeat.
KTF 1st profit
KTF +93
Flat bet remaining 8, +4
2 hit to go 3 after 20th spin already came
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Now what if you'd start 10 spins later
what we're looking at is getting the repeat from 2 hit to go 3 after 20th spin, in red. You can see there just going to 2's, meaning more numbers to cover. When it happens 3 from a 2, -77.
What have you been told/suggested, drop some, so just bet the 3 hit with 2 units. Keep going, dropping those on a hit, but increase the unit on the hottie. End +89 from -77, I have allowed for the cost of the bets, just shows the wins.
KTF's win
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So is there any thoughts as you play those 8 remaining, that shows -135 after taking the wins out.
Simple, when a win does not clear the bet, its do you carry on (luck needed now) or stop. What would be needed is consective wins, heres an example from Jackpot247, the end of the blue has you -1, would you stop? Gold has you +33
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10 spins later
Wins all round, even the 3 from 2 was better,+9
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I'm going to post Jackot247 after this. Just like ef-bet some spins you do have to wonder if there pulling your chain.
Like 25,11 then you see 25,11,9,9,11 then more doubles that are supposed to happen once every blue moon we were told back in some thread. 29,29 then wait for a blue moon and you see 7,7, no gap 23,23.
you'll see, like Maestro said not trust.
Good see your here Winkel, hope you are well.
Jackpot247
Well what 75% is about spins 1-10, repeat, look at the checkpoints, whats avg for 60 spins, 30.5 non-hit
KTF 1st profit,+15
KTF,+62
Flat bet remaining 8 non-hit,+12
2 going 3 to early #11
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If we make spin 31, our spin 1
checkpoint shows the repeat spins 1-10
KTF 1st profit,+7
KTF,+61
2 going 3, +4 drop some bet just #36 for 2 units as its now 3 a hottie, add #5 what d'yu think? LUCK :question:
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You know what to look for, and comments on flat bet remaining 8 have been shown
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10 spins later
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10 spins later and shown twice to go three still hitting before 20th spin
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So here is Multi player posted in Turbo
No repeat in 1-10
KTF 1st profit, +9
Ktf, +66
2 hit going 3 after 20th spin +28
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Nottop,
Very interesting. Thanks for all this hard work you are putting into it.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 24, 09:59 PM 2017
Nottop,
Very interesting. Thanks for all this hard work you are putting into it.
Thank you Dr
heres ef-bet for today
3 of the possible 4 bets we are looking at are here, but 2hit going 3 happened before spin 20 so do not use it, reset, unless you fancy going for it, but like last night on multi-player it was bets to just start again.
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Now what happens if Mort started 10 spins later?
only showing the 2 to go 3.
You should be able to see the other 3 methods we look at are wins.
But 2 to go 3, keeps you on you toes, at spin 57,#6 has shown 5 times and we've had 3 wins. If calc is right we'd be -10. As we've had 3 wins i'd reset with -10, but #6 is there further down, 24 spins, providing none of the others catch upto #6, you'd be +48, but i would reset with the -10
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1-10 no repeat
2 to go 3hit to early
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10 spins later
2 to go 3 hit in red
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Nottop,
In terms of the appearances of the repeat numbers, have you noticed any differences between real dealer-spun wheels and airball wheels?
I am excluding pure RNG systems from the above question (for obvious reasons).
Big M
go to ef-bet download spins for these days, Flat bet only remaining 8. stop when the 8 hit, you'll see
18/4 +4
21/4 +28
22/4 -4
23/4 +28
24/4 -4
25/4 +28
26/4 +4
27/4 -4
Okay we've seen in crazy neighbour and trinity flatbet how the chance of a repeat in 10spins.
Well this is what those crazy numbers from multi-player look like.
1st profit
KTF
flatbet last 8remaining taking 1st profit
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The ef-bet
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When your playing, are you watching, if just watching then you should have learnt by now when to bet
Been a while.
But we've just seen If U Really R that unlucky don’t do this idea bet point 9 win.
So what does ef-bet give
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a number to go 3 hit from 2 hits is early #20
KTF 1st profit +5
KTF +66
FLB last 8 remaining +12
and last 75% yes, 6/10
Mumbo, trust me, speaks for its self
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For friends down under
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For now forget about the previous 10 in the 10 you'd play, like spins 1-10, bet they repeat in 11-20.
Here is just bet the 10 spins as they come, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,16,18,30.
As spins 41-50 ended +92 should have stopped as just 8 units short for a ton, but i have faith.
51-60 oops end +0, convenient, you'll understand why think this at the end. >:D
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Now as we have lost the profit a decision is needed, carry on with single unit or go with 2 units. As said i have faith, so 2 units for spins 61-70 win +60
Still down on the high of +92, so start spins 71-80 with 2 units, well its got to spin 80, number 24, spin 81,so win +32, +60=+92.
Now we start spins 81-90 with single unit, win +30 now +122, stop.
This is from multi-player do we really believe these spins are from live wheel, Maestro calls it all names lol.
Has multi-player got something watching bets, +92 then convenient +0, or just paranoia as theres no real wheel so feels like RNG, at least the FOBT gives the image of wheel and ball going round, ROFL
Well here is morts #'s from today, think 75% behaved ok
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more to come, the rest of the spins
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Have faith, LOL, LOL,
So 1st 10 spins as you are down went to 2units,lost, up to 3units, stayed on 3 units as still down, but after spin 60, you decide, me i went down to 2units, then 1 unit.
Good old luck of the Irish, without his info where would we be, everyone should go and give him a like.
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KTF 1st profit +9
KTF +55
2hit to 3hit +33
even flat bet remaining 8 non-hit +4
Here is the data for 30 days of Mortagon spins.
3 blocks of 111 spins covers nearly most spins for each day.
1st block is KTF 1st profit, column P114
2nd block is KTF using 50/+50 and stop, P238
3rd block is for a 2hit to go 3 hit, after spin 20, but gave up as they just came early.
Below 3rd block is data for spins 1-10 ranging from 6/10 to 10/10 column P355-359.
BIG Money
you seem able to test
How can you test for a repeat in 10 spins, just left multi-player and longislander on there not a good word for any methods.
But Big M 60 spins had blocks of 10 spins like this 7/10, 10/10, 9/10, 9/10, 8/10, 8/10 look at Morts games more repeats than 10/10
I'll await your findings
Now as roulette seems to get played fast and faster as times going by, you need a bet selection that can be placed very quickly.
The table at the B+M is quiet at certain times of the day, so spins are fast, at Aspers they spin to a timer. But when players are at the table the spins slow down through, pay out, buying in, etc.:
With the modern world comes technology. This technology is touchscreens; this enables more players to play. The touchscreen to some is something that enables you to play in certain ways that you would not be able to do at the table, cough.
Duh, like placing large amounts of chips, then just relay, perhaps with a double up, not possible in the real world these big dogs cough up. But the technology does allow this, by having the re-bet function and double bet function.
So newbie don’t let big dogs put you of, we are in the techno age after all.
What is the bet selection? Winning with a repeat.
Now the idea is to get the repeat from 1st 10 spins. If no repeat will have cost 92 units by betting
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,16,18,30.
If Bankroll is 1000 units, you could play next 10 spins at 2 units and so on, when or if at new high, start back at 1 unit over the 10 spins.
To me the question is what do you want to win? If BR is 1000, is it 10% or tries to make a day’s wage say £100 based on minimum wage, like the 10%.
Here’s example of groups of 10 spins in 3 visits to multi-player.
Visit 1. 9/10, 8/10, 8/10, 8/10.
Visit 2. 7/10, 10/10, 9/10, 9/10, 8/10, 8/10.
Visit 3. 9/10, 10/10, 10/10, 9/10, 9/10.
So what is the fly in the ointment here, to this bet selection? Is it not non-hit numbers in the very 1st 10 spins? Possibly to happen again in the next 10 spin’s.
What possibly happens in spins 11-20 if spins 1-10 were10/10, that spins 1-10 repeat, but it’s known that you could have 20 unique numbers, but is that something that happens often? Or spins 11-20 repeat, still to avoid spins 1-10. Something to ponder over.
So what should we aim to win?
13:50 no one multi-player table. so just watched.
21,34,36,10,30,32,4,12,13,33, end 10/10 so whats said up above?
19,4R,27,35,0,26,35,1,23,23 so repeat of spins 1-10 #4, with 2 repeats in 35&23 end 8/10
As 35 repeats and 9/10 is the most common, just 1 number repeats why carry on, just see the spins out and start the new 10 spins with the 2 units or if you're in a hurry go to 3 units, it would be your decision :thumbsup:
Now some cough,duh, members who dont visit so much, say things go round, how true that is, this before my time, but like Ralphs reply to TCS.
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Seems i need to read this topic, might be some pointers.
work it out, it can be done
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if me sums are right at spin 28 +70 Like winkel, stop jump but take those units