OMG!!! I can t believe this!!! my maths teacher gave me the Roulette HG today!!!

[Twisteruk]

okkkk no worries, let me try to help

You always bet the dozen or column after it has hit twice

So for example on the dozens,


123231322 (you now bet the 2nd dozen)

IF while betting the 2nd dozen you get another hit like,

3133 ALSO bet the 3rd Dozen

Treat them as seperate bets all running to a winning point

AND its the same for the columns

Anyway thats the way Im doin it lol 

Havin 2 Dozens and a Column running is normal (or so I found) or vice versa

As for the stop loss I think I would stop at Ã,£100

Hope that helps 

[Twisteruk]

I don't quite get the bet selection for this one, twisteruk.

For example

1Dosen 2Col
2Dosen 3Col
2Dosen 2Col - Ok we start betting here on 2nd Dosen
1Dosen 1Col - Now we are betting 2 units on 2nd Dosen
3Dosen 1Col - Now do we start betting on 1st Column -1- Unit + 3 Units on 2nd Dosen??
3Dosen 1Col - Ok we won on 1st Column, now DO WE START BETTING ON 3RD DOSEN + 2ND DOSEN OR WAIT FOR 2ND DOSEN TO HIT FIRST?
1Dosen 2Col
3Dosen 2Col - Here we won on 3rd Dosen, but 2nd Dosen is still sleeping, we also start betting on 2nd Col

Is this the right way to play this?

Also if a dosen sleeps for more than 12-14 spins, what is the appropriate stop-loss, if any.

I didnt really answer your specific question did I lol

1. Yes is the answer to your 1st question

2. Bet both is what Im doin

3. Yup thats the right way to play

Good Luck ! 

[sekuritati]

Okkkk no worries, let me try to help

You always bet the dozen or column after it has hit twice

So for example on the dozens,


123231322 (you now bet the 2nd dozen)

IF while betting the 2nd dozen you get another hit like,

3133 ALSO bet the 3rd Dozen

Treat them as seperate bets all running to a winning point

AND its the same for the columns

Anyway that's the way I'm doin it LoL  :D

Havin 2 Dozens and a Column running is normal (or so I found) or vice versa

As for the stop-loss I think I would stop at Ã,£100

Hope that helps  :)

what i meant was, to which step do you stop the progression on the sleeping dosen, you said in the private message that your maximum bet was 60Pounds thats 12th step of the progression. 

but on 12th step if you lose, you would be losing 390 pounds, and dosens can sleep for longer than 12 spins.  And now you say you would stop at 100 Pounds loss, that is the 6th step, 30 pound bet, which if lost would mean 105 Pound overall loss on that dosen.

[Twisteruk]

Ã,£100 chip not Ã,£100 in total 

[Maui13]

Just a suggestion (and I like this system).....when you wait for a dozen to hit for 2 times, and you place your bet....who's not to say it's the beginning of a sleeper set?

In the section

link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/maui's-c***tail/

I chase the winner of each dozen, with the hope of catching those long runs.

Like I also say there, I don't have a proper progression. Maybe combine the best 2 elements of both 

Regards

M

[Twisteruk]

Just a suggestion (and I like this system).....when you wait for a dozen to hit for 2 times, and you place your bet....who's not to say it's the beginning of a sleeper set?

In the section

link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/maui's-c***tail/

I chase the winner of each dozen, with the hope of catching those long runs.

Like I also say there, I don't have a proper progression. Maybe combine the best 2 elements of both 

Regards

M

Yes thats correct, it could be the start of a "sleep"

There is no way to tell 

[Twisteruk]

I just finished a 1hr session and ended up +105 Units. I was using Ã,£5 Chips. Biggest bet was Ã,£30

Lovin this System !

[Twisteruk]

Whats the best Progression for this ?

Any opinions ?

Cheers 

[Hermes]

If your trigger is to bet after 2 dozens (eg. 33, 33) you are too late! Many times for over 30 spins you don't see any triple. I bet exactly opposite: after I see 2 D or C I bet the other 2. In 80% of cases you win, if not wait for next double and bet Leveller progression and you win for sure. Doubles are second best to exploit after chops. Just one of my on side systems revealed.
Hermes

[Jordan]

its all the same

[Monte Carlo]

Your math teacher is a high school math teacher for a reason.  He did offer you a good piece of advice though.   That no system will win every time.

His progression is wonky.  You will need at least a basic Fibonacci progression to overcome going into the red.  Work it out on the back of an envelope and you will see why.

Waiting for "x" number of any event to occur or not occur is a waste of time.  Pushing the event horizon forward does nothing mathematically for you and prolongs the amount of time spent at the table.  If your system takes more than 25 spins it is flawed or at best works only theoretically. 

On the positive side I think you can make this work.

1. Play every spin gradually leading in after any first occurrence then gradually exit at a particular number of spins.
2. Play all three divisions simultaneously but not the zero.  You could also play all three columns at the same time if you like.  Might get a bit confusing doing it mentally in your head.
3.  Work with a Fibonacci progression treating each division or column separate.  I would stop loss at 5 units because of standard ratios in maximum betting.  Going to 8 units would increase your winnings marginally at the low end while reducing the maximum you could play. 

Essentially you are playing 3 separate games at the same time.  The aggregate should result in positive winning most of the time.  I doubt that it would take more than 25 spins to grind out a decent profit.  I haven't tested and don't plan to.  Also you might want to mix 2 divisions with 2 columns or some other mix so the croup doesn't flag you .  The mix is not relevant mathematically.  Mixing divisions and columns should result in less winnings but playing all 6 would maximize it.  It's the aggregate take that will make this work. 

Monte Carlo

[Monte Carlo]

I said I wouldn't check but I did just to make sure my assumption was correct.

Used the first 29 numbers from the earlier post with Dublin bet numbers.

Going to Fibonacci 5 you get +25 units on div and -4 on col.
Going to Fibonacci 8 you get +41 units on div and +20 on col.

Combined its +21 and +61 respectively.

Monte Carlo

[VLS]

Good advice.

Thanks for posting Carlo

[catalyst]

I said I wouldn't check but I did just to make sure my assumption was correct. 

Used the first 29 numbers from the earlier post with Dublin bet numbers. 

Going to Fibonacci 5 you get +25 units on div and -4 on col. 
Going to Fibonacci 8 you get +41 units on div and +20 on col. 

Combined its +21 and +61 respectively. 

Monte Carlo

carlo
plz explain a bit more.  how many spins per session?
catalyst

[TwoCatSam]

Gents

I would like to reply to the portion of this post dealing with waiting for "X" to miss "X" number of times and then starting to bet.  I puzzled almost exclusively for months with this apparent paradox.

Let's assume we could look at a million spins a discover that eight reds in a row occurs very infrequently.  For purposes of illustration, let's say only 100 times in our one-million-spin study.  And there is the mistake in the thought process:  We look at the 100 times occurrence in light of a million spins and this is wrong.  We must look at the occurrence in light of the possibilities of the occurrence occurring.  That is to say, a shot at eight in a row is only possible after the seventh red in a row has occurred.  So to be accurate, we must only look at the number of red sevens to look for a red eighth.

While it looks appealing, if you study then number of times red went seven and then study the next spin, you will find it to be a 50/50 proposition, i.e., black occurs just as often in the eighth hole as red does.  I did multi-million spin tests using the Super Roulette Robot.

There is simply no advantage, mathematically, to waiting for "X" to occur "X" times and then betting.  However, it can be fun and it sure looks inviting--thus the "paradox"!

Sam