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Title: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 04:09 AM 2010
Hi chaps,

i have been playing this system provided by TWOCANDO and have been rather successful albeit for a short while.

This is how i go about doing it based on what i understood from his posts.

Basically all i do is track for 3 consecutive linear carpet movements then bet. Linear movements range from -18 to +18 from the last spun number ( ill post examples later on in the post and explain step by step)

After the trigger appears i then bet on 6 numbers and flat bet for 6 times. If theres a hit within 6 spins, continue until 6 consecutive losses or if u hit ur win target.

After 6 losses retrack and bet again

Br for each session for me is 144 units

Win targets is up to u. I normally play until i win about 100 units then continue until i get 6 straight losses. IF I still haven't hit my target at around 100 spins i start looking for an exit pt either break even or even a small loss.

this is an example of how i played today


10     
8        -2 ( 10 to 8 on the carpet is a movement of -2)
17      9  (8 to 17 is a movement of 9 etc)
2        -15
30      -9 (count backwards from 2 to 30 ie 2,1,0,36 etc)
9        16
13       4
30      17 
11      18 ( 3 linear movements in a row 16,17,18)
                flat bet 6 numbers using +16,+17,+18 , -16,-17,-18 from the last spun
                number . IN this case bet  27,28,29,30,31,32)
22      11 L ( bet 1,2,3,6,5,4)
20      -2  L ( bet 36,0,1,2,3,4)
34       14 L ( bet 18,17,16,15,14,13)
8         11 L ( bet 24,25,26,27,28,29)
36       -9 L ( bet 20,19,18,17,16,15)
15       16 W (31,32,33,34,35,36)
36       -16W ( 20,19,18,17,16,15)
18        -18 W ( 34,35,36,0,1,2)
29        11 L ( 13,12,11,10,9,8)
31        2 L ( 15,14,13,12,11,10)
0          6 L ( 15,16,17,18,19,20)
19        -18 W ( 35,36,0,1,2,3,)
29        10 L (13,12,11,10,9,8)
13        -16 W ( 29,30,31,32,33,34)
24        11 L ( 8,7,6,5,4,3)
4          17 W ( 20,21,22,23,24,25 )
12        8 L ( 28,29,30,31,32,33)
5          -7L ( 21,22,23,24,25,26)
30        -12 ( 14,13,12,11,10,9)
9           16 W

You could do this for the wheel as well i guess but i havnt had the time to go to that :D.

Cheers
hamsup





Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: StackBundles on Sep 13, 03:05 PM 2010
one thing i cant understand is that here we have a way of playing by a professional and a respectful man yet nobody really paid attention to it there was no real test made and it died out

this is defo one we need to look more closely at when i was testing it i was getting good results but due to work had to leave it alone but hopefully i have more time now so will try to look at this alot more
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: StackBundles on Sep 13, 03:17 PM 2010
btw as anyone heard from tcd i know he was pissed with a certain somebody trying to say he dont know what hes talking about since then he hasnt been back shame how people spoil things
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 13, 05:03 PM 2010
Quote from: StackBundles on Sep 13, 03:17 PM 2010
By the way as anyone heard from tcd I know he was pissed with a certain somebody trying to say he don't know what he's talking about since then he hasn't been back shame how people spoil things
Agree with you,except you shouldn't hesitate to mention that
certain somebody that eliminated TCD-o from our forum.
OK I will mention one of his names Viper...there are more.
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: StackBundles on Sep 13, 05:30 PM 2010
well i didnt want an argument to start on this thread so i didnt say a name but maybe its one that says theres no way to win roulette other than AP and with 15 yrs plus experiance at it yet all he does is come up with systems that the guy u on about?





















Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 13, 05:45 PM 2010
Have seen TCD-o post somwhere,on some other site after that,
but lost it.
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: A3on on Sep 13, 05:57 PM 2010
Thanks for sharing Hamsup
Looks a great system, I think I will give it a try
:thumbsup:




Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 04:09 AM 2010
i have been playing this system provided by TWOCANDO and have been rather successful albeit for a short while.

Sorry, are you saying you still have made few tests but results are good, or you only have been successful in the begin?

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 06:08 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Sep 13, 05:57 PM 2010





Sorry, are you saying you still have made few tests but results are good, or you only have been successful in the begin?

Best regards,
Afonso

Tongue in cheek bro ...... :D im nvr going to hit the long run anyway lmaoooooooooo :p


hahahah

cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: VLS on Sep 13, 06:15 PM 2010
Thank you very much for sharing your linear betting approach with us dear Hamsup.

Very appreciated  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: A3on on Sep 14, 05:41 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 04:09 AM 2010
10     
8        -2 ( 10 to 8 on the carpet is a movement of -2)
17      9  (8 to 17 is a movement of 9 etc)
2        -15
30      -9 (count backwards from 2 to 30 ie 2,1,0,36 etc)
9        16
13       4
30      17 
11      18 ( 3 linear movements in a row 16,17,18)
                flat bet 6 numbers using +16,+17,+18 , -16,-17,-18 from the last spun
                number . IN this case bet  27,28,29,30,31,32)

One question my friend
You mencioned 3 consecutive linear movements in a row, but 16, 17 and 18 didn't show in a row, as 4 is between 16 and 17 :s

So if you accept a break between the consecutive movements you should had accepted too 15, -9, 16, 4, 17

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: A3on on Sep 14, 05:42 PM 2010
Btw, sorry about the reply in the other topic, but when I read this post I didn't realized it was a twocando system :s

My fault, sorry mate
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 15, 06:38 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Sep 14, 05:41 PM 2010
One question my friend
You mencioned 3 consecutive linear movements in a row, but 16, 17 and 18 didn't show in a row, as 4 is between 16 and 17 :s

So if you accept a break between the consecutive movements you should had accepted too 15, -9, 16, 4, 17

Best regards,
Afonso


oh no actually what i meant by movements was actually linear movements in a row. it doesnt have to be consecutive spins.

Imagine if u have 2 straight lines .... 0 to +18 and 0 to -18, over the course of your tracking spins you would have stuff from all over. It's the first 3 movements on the carpet that are connected without any gaps in between


eg 1, 4 , 5 , 10 , 10 , 5 , 18 , -15, -3 , -6, 3

now the 3 completes the 3 in row ie 3,4 and 5 and is the first set of 3 that qualifies. we bet those movements to repeat for 6 spins.

hope that im clear enough  :P

:D
cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: A3on on Sep 15, 07:51 PM 2010
Yes my friend
Thanks for the explanation :D

I was about to put another doubt but your post cleared everything
:thumbsup:

Best regards,
Afonso

Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: StackBundles on Sep 30, 11:49 AM 2010
everyone give up on this one again?
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: A3on on Sep 30, 01:11 PM 2010
I tested it.

After some test sessions I got to much negative results to continue with it
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 30, 08:47 PM 2010
stilll playing it although i dont have much time on hand at the moment .....

been treading water the past few times so still good :D


cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 16, 08:44 AM 2010
Hi chaps... update for this "system" . I'm still doing very well with this ... around 50 sessions so far ... averaging about 60-70 spins per session profit total is about +1273

either play flat betting 100 unit br or 500 units with the leveler progression ( 1,2,4,8).

things to note:

1.   100 units. However this is not set in stone. IF i hit 100 very quickly i normally play another set of 6 spins and try and push the winnings further.

2. Max spins recommended would be around 100. DO Not exceed it if possible ..... if you're chasing a loss consider closing the session at a small loss or a small win.

I'll add in more as it comes to my head....  But until then have fun with it and see if it works for you as it has for me :D

Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: Carsch on Nov 16, 12:50 PM 2010
I tried something similar just to see what results i'd get.

What i do is i simply add 5, 6, 7 and subctract 5, 6, 7 to the last number spun.

Ex: last no is 10

Add 5 to 10 = 15................we'll play no. 15
Add 6 to 10 = 16...............we'll play no. 16
Add 7 to 10 = 17...............we'll play no. 17

Subtract 5 to 10 = 5...........we'll play no. 5............and so on

Thus, in this example we'll play 3,4,5,15,16,17

We do the same with everyone no. spun.

Here are the results for 309 spins. Flat bets only.

If you get a chance, Hamsup, you could try these same spins the way you play it just to see the difference in results. By the way, you're cute (if that's you). :)
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: TwoCatSam on Nov 16, 03:02 PM 2010
ain't him
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 17, 02:27 AM 2010
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 16, 03:02 PM 2010
Ain't him

meh sam i look better than that  loooool

@carsch ok bro ill have a look 00 wheel though.... it may take a while ... count a lot faster on the 0 wheel lol


cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 17, 04:19 AM 2010

Quote from: Carsch on Nov 16, 12:50 PM 2010
I tried something similar just to see what results i'd get.

What I do is I simply add 5, 6, 7 and subctract 5, 6, 7 to the last number spun.

Ex: last no is 10

Add 5 to 10 = 15................we'll play no. 15
Add 6 to 10 = 16...............we'll play no. 16
Add 7 to 10 = 17...............we'll play no. 17

Subtract 5 to 10 = 5...........we'll play no. 5............and so on

Thus, in this example we'll play 3,4,5,15,16,17

We do the same with everyone no. spun.

Here are the results for 309 spins. Flat bets only.

If you get a chance, Hamsup, you could try these same spins the way you play it just to see the difference in results. By the way, you're cute (if that's you). :)


ok carsch I've had a look and these are my results based on the way i would play it

311 spins
Flat betting result : final result +92 ( high +256 units, low -60)

Leveler : +310 (high +454 , low -84)

cheers
Hamsup

Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:15 PM 2010
Wow, that's interesting. We had about the same results. And i just picked the 3 numbers to add and subtract out of nowhere.  Meaning it can probably be done by just picking any 3 numbers to add and subtract to the last number spun.

So, you look better than that? I guess you're a girl? Gz, then i wanna meet you, Hamsup.  ;D
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 18, 12:30 AM 2010
Quote from: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:15 PM 2010
Wow, that's interesting. We had about the same results. And I just picked the 3 numbers to add and subtract out of nowhere.  Meaning it can probably be done by just picking any 3 numbers to add and subtract to the last number spun.



well no idea whether it works better or not ...  you could try and give it a go ..


Quote from: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:15 PM 2010


So, you look better than that? I guess you're a girl? Gz, then I wanna meet you, Hamsup.  ;D


haahaha if only i was dude ... if only i was  :twisted:


:p
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: Carsch on Nov 18, 10:41 AM 2010
LOL  :D
Title: Re: hamsup's version of linear betting (carpet only)
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Mar 08, 10:19 AM 2011
Hi chaps this is the updated version of how i play and its worked well so far. So hope that it works well for you guys too. :D

*disclaimer*
it works for me however it may not for you. IF you do play please do so within your means. Different people have certain nuances when playing. What applies to me does not necessarily apply to you.

*no stuff about gamblers fallacy please. Its irritating.

*IF you do lose, post it up and lets see how we can work around it. NO system can go on without losses, however what we should be looking for is an overall profit at the end of the month :D. SO even if you do lose at the onset, it may recover.


Ok back to the method proper.

1. track spins until there are 3 consecutive movements in a line on the carpet.( beginning of the thread has the bet selection in detail) Then proceed to bet a  minimum of 6 spins

2. i play with 4 banks of 540 units

3. Progression used is 1,2,4,8. The way i use it is as follows

(Losses during the progression)

- After losing 6 spins on the trot, if br is less than that at the beginning of the 6 spins you move on to Lvl 2 and use 2 units per number.

- after losing 6 spins on the trot at level 2 you go on to lvl 3 if the bal is less than the br at the beginning of lvl 2.

- ditto for lvl 3 and 4

- totals for losing the progression will be as follows : Lvl 1 ( 36), lvl 2 (72), lvl 3 (144), Lvl 4 (288) for
 a total of 540 units

(wins during the progression)

- at any point during the progression, if you reach 0 or better stop.

- from lvl 3 onwards take note the br at the point in time. If its at the following ie

 -36 reduce the bet to lvl 2( 2 units)
 
 -108 bet lvl 3( 4 units)

4. I use the following as a guide with regards to wins. ( not during the progression)

- i play for at least 2 hits each time. After 2 w's i look at my br:

 @ less than 36 units i stop the session.
 
 @36 and above, i play on until  +18 then i stop

- on the third hit , anything under +54 i stop the session

 @54 and above i play until i hit +36.

- @72 and above i play on until i have 6L in a row



personal preferences when playing

1. I look for a new trigger if i have a hit on the 6th spin ie +- 0. IF I'm at a positive position when i win on the 6th spin i stop the session.

2. max spins i will play is 144 spins from 108 onwards i will look for an exit point  and bite the bullet.

3. after experiencing 2 sets of wins followed by 6L's when using the progression i would exit on the
   third win.

4. AFter 2 sets of  win's on 6's i would exit on the next win regardless on score.

5. if I'm at a +ve position and theres a change of dealer i stop the session :D

6. I nvr play on after a huge loss ie 200 units and above. Naysayers would tell you it doesn't matter in
   the grand scheme of things. I tell you its bollocks. Your psyche at the point in time matters.
   Whenever you lose big, you get agitated and it brings about mistakes as well as irrational decisions.
   Better to go cool off and live to fight another day. WHy continue playing when your luck is down??


That's all i can think of at the moment. Have a test of it and see how you go. It'll be interesting to see if your results can mirror mine.

cheers
Hamsup