Just one bet per day! $150,00 profit per day!
I started it today. I know the risk
What do you in this forum think about it? Is it a crazy bet?
Bet 450,00 each dozen and 150,00 each group of four.
It'll cover 32 numbers
If you lose you have to win 8 times to recover..
That's it. You've done it. You have found the Holy Grail.
I was wondering how long it would take for one of you guys to figure it out. I thought it would be ignatus that did it, but you have done if first Andre Chass.
Congratulations!
The hit and run bit, pure genius.
Quote from: Taotie on Sep 04, 05:55 PM 2017
That's it. You've done it. You have found the Holy Grail.
I was wondering how long it would take for one of you guys to figure it out. I thought it would be ignatus that did it, but you have done if first Andre Chass.
Congratulations!
The hit and run bit, pure genius.
How ironic!
I just bet again and more 150,00 profit!
300,00 profit today
But I think is better just one bet per day.
The ideal is to take a spin sequence of high numbers and bet...
Im gonna let this piss take run a while longer until the point becomes more obvious :o
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 04, 05:24 PM 2017
If you lose you have to win 8 times to recover.
That is the Achilles' heel of this method.
You have acknowledged it but, paradoxically, still persist with playing with this method. ::) ::)
I can't believe no one has yet figured out that this guy is a troll and most likely has another alias.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 05, 09:11 AM 2017
I can't believe no one has yet figured out that this guy is a troll and most likely has another alias.
well...apart from me
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 05, 09:11 AM 2017
I can't believe no one has yet figured out that this guy is a troll and most likely has another alias.
Well, this guy is seemingly so down in the dumps, I am, for the time being, willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (while at the same time admonishing him about how he should NOT depend on this carnival game for trying to improve his financial situation).
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 05, 09:30 AM 2017
Well, this guy is seemingly so down in the dumps, I am, for the time being, willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (while at the same time admonishing him about how he should NOT depend on this carnival game for trying to improve his financial situation).
Thanks for believe in me!
I play roulette for fun but I'm trying to make some money too.
I have a good bankroll and I can afford it.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 05, 09:11 AM 2017
I can't believe no one has yet figured out that this guy is a troll and most likely has another alias.
Tell me the reason you think it...
Anyway I love you too! Lol
QuoteI have a good bankroll and I can afford it.
but cannot go to get your knee done...what a wank :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 05, 02:41 AM 2017
That is the Achilles' heel of this method.
You have acknowledged it but, paradoxically, still persist with playing with this method. ::) ::)
What I meant is that if you lose on the first bet you will have to win 8 times to recover. But it is hard to lose already in the first bet. When you lose you have already made a profit. Of course you can be unlucky. I tested more than 500 rounds using this pattern and the gain turned out to be greater than the loss. Of course it has risks ....
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 05, 02:41 AM 2017
That is the Achilles' heel of this method.
You have acknowledged it but, paradoxically, still persist with playing with this method. ::) ::)
What I meant is that if you lose on the first bet you will have to win 8 times to recover. But it is hard to lose already in the first bet. When you lose you have already made a profit. Of course you can be unlucky. I tested more than 500 rounds using this pattern and the gain turned out to be greater than the loss. Of course it has risks ....
Quote from: maestro on Sep 05, 01:14 PM 2017
but cannot go to get your knee done...what a wank :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I have a portion of the money saved to do the knee surgery that is already scheduled for October ...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 04, 05:02 PM 2017
Just one bet per day! $150,00 profit per day!
I started it today. I know the risk
What do you in this forum think about it? Is it a crazy bet?
You want feedback, this is mine.
10yrs ago I betted almost similar to your 2ds+2quads method on a 3step martingale on fresh signal. With virtual loss thrown in I was then convinced I won't lose. That afternoon I lost 1k euro chips in 3bets on three separate roulette tables in different location of the b&m casino. It was an expensive lesson to learn about gamblers fallacy. I've never looked back since. It's a lot cheaper to learn from other peoples experience.
Let me explain something. I joined this forum to make friends around the world who like to play roulette and talk about it. I do not want to make enemies or even fight here. I'm not angry at anyone and just want to have good times and try to make some money.
Quote from: cht on Sep 05, 01:41 PM 2017
You want feedback, this is mine.
10yrs ago I betted almost similar to your 2ds+2quads method on a 3step martingale on fresh signal. With virtual loss thrown in I was then convinced I won't lose. That afternoon I lost 1k euro chips in 3bets on three separate roulette tables in different location of the b&m casino. It was an expensive lesson to learn about gamblers fallacy. I've never looked back since. It's a lot cheaper to learn from other peoples experience.
I wonder how hard it was for you! I will try another system that I am studying.
DOCTORSUDOKU suggestion
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 05, 01:53 PM 2017
I wonder how hard it was for you! I will try another system that I am studying.
DOCTORSUDOKU suggestion
Andre,
I would still suggest you take a good look at the pattern breaker thread.
Yes, it is nowhere near being the HG, but at the very least you can put your thinking cap on and derive some tangential methods out of it (and tinker with and test them for yourself).
I'm still betting this method because I'm f*** crazy
300,00 profit today in only 2 bets.
That's 900,00 profit already.
No more bets today
150,00 profit today in only 1 bet.
That's 1200,00 profit until now!!!
One of the best methods!
No more bets today
This is how betting should work. Go in, place a bet and make a good profit. Not waiting and waiting before you can place a bet or playing for hours to hope for a win. It's risky though when it takes 8 bet to recover, but maybe with little luck. But not for me, too risky.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 09, 07:02 AM 2017Not waiting and waiting before you can place a bet or playing for hours to hope for a win.
quite right, if you know your method you should be able to play straight away, and not for 500 spins in a B+M, to long.
60 spins should be enough
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today just one bet, 150,00 profit
1.350,00 profit less than a week
No more bets today
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 08, 01:09 PM 2017
One of the best methods!
Which method are you referring to here?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 09, 04:38 PM 2017
Which method are you referring to here?
It's not exactly a method or a system. It's just a single high bet to make a significant profit. For those who do not mind taking risks.
Good afternoon!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $1.500,00
Good afternoon!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 2 bets / $300,00 profit
Total profit $1.800,00
No more bets today
Well the good news is that if you have a loss you will still be in profit
I wish you good luck.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 11, 11:22 AM 2017
Well the good news is that if you have a loss you will still be in profit
I wish you good luck.
Thanks!
At that moment if I bet and lose I would still be with 600.00 profit...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $1.950,00
The ball bounced on zero and fell on 32!!!
I almost passed out....lol
No more bets today
Don't get nervous.
Just understand you will lose eventually. I hope you are way up in profit before that
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Hell yeah!!! Today 2 bets / $300,00 profit
Total profit $2.250,00
No more bets today
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 05:50 PM 2017
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Hell yeah!!! Today 2 bets / $300,00 profit
Total profit $2.250,00
No more bets today
Good for you -- even though it remains a very risky bet!
Just curious -- are you still betting according to what you described in your first post (2 quads and 2 dozens)?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 13, 07:28 PM 2017
Good for you -- even though it remains a very risky bet!
Just curious -- are you still betting according to what you described in your first post (2 quads and 2 dozens)?
Yes, I am!
I watch some spins before betting...
At that moment if I bet and lose I would still be with 1.250,00 profit...
meaning?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 08:13 PM 2017
Yes, I am!
I watch some spins before betting...
At that moment if I bet and lose I would still be with 1.250,00 profit...
I mean 1.050,00
What is your indication to bet?
Quote from: hexfex82 on Sep 14, 12:20 PM 2017
What is your indication to bet?
I play at several online casinos.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $2.400,00
No more bets today
Hello fellas!
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $2.550,00
No more bets today
The question is: When will I lose? I know the day will come !!!
Why this negative attitude? You will keep on winning for many more days to come and when the day finally comes, you will end as a winner. So nothing to fear here, go on winning!
Must admit ive stopped playing high procentage bets a while ago as its just too grindy when played continually. Mainly did a bit of 5 lines betting (a bit the same as betting 2 units on dozen one & 3 units on "EC high") aka covering 30/37 of the wheel 81%-ish. Of cause ive always played with a tiny bankroll. Your quite scary large bet of a single 32/37 number 86%-ish wheel cover does seem really risky. Here is a couple of ideas that went thru my head:
"the oppotune moment": Trying to figure out "hot numbers" i tried just betting flatbetting 1 unit on the last spun number hoping for a repeat. After that tried betting 1 unit on the 2 last spun numbers to repeat but that also failed horribly. At the same time i noticed that hitting the same number 3 times in a row happens so rarely (on a real wheel) that i can count the event on a single hand. Thus if you are hunting for a "least likely number to hit next" then waiting for a number to repeat and then bet against it happen a third time.
"cold numbers": usually online live wheels show the 5 coldest numbers, and with a bit of luck 2 of the coldest numbers is from the same dozen, so it could "fit" your 32/37 bet.
"brace for impact": The idea is simply to start out betting high and then bet smaller and smaller as we know a loss in incoming. In case of playing 5 lines it could be like starting with 5 units on each line, then after a couple of wins go down to 4 units, then after a couple of wins go down to 3 units etc. Same work ok with playing a smaller and smaller martingale aka first 5,10,20,40, then 4,8, 16, 32 then 3, 6, 12, 24 etc,
So when you actually get a genuine loss of a bet or single progression .. its less costly than the initial starting bet/progression = profit. The "danger" of this idea is of cause if you loose your first bets, but you are quite clearly past that point by now :)
Anyways, hope i dont jinx it. Perhaps the real strength of the "single high procentage hit and run" strategy to simply splash the money at a random time on the table & run away instantly with the winnings after the first win. And over-thinking is the killer.
In case you wondered what you can expect, here's a test of two times 100 spins, and a 500 spins tests of your bet.
It is possible to win 30+ in a row, but 5 lost bets in 10 spins also happened.
Quote from: Thanatos on Sep 18, 12:44 PM 2017
Must admit ive stopped playing high procentage bets a while ago as its just too grindy when played continually. Mainly did a bit of 5 lines betting (a bit the same as betting 2 units on dozen one & 3 units on "EC high") aka covering 30/37 of the wheel 81%-ish. Of cause ive always played with a tiny bankroll. Your quite scary large bet of a single 32/37 number 86%-ish wheel cover does seem really risky. Here is a couple of ideas that went thru my head:
"the oppotune moment": Trying to figure out "hot numbers" i tried just betting flatbetting 1 unit on the last spun number hoping for a repeat. After that tried betting 1 unit on the 2 last spun numbers to repeat but that also failed horribly. At the same time i noticed that hitting the same number 3 times in a row happens so rarely (on a real wheel) that i can count the event on a single hand. Thus if you are hunting for a "least likely number to hit next" then waiting for a number to repeat and then bet against it happen a third time.
"cold numbers": usually online live wheels show the 5 coldest numbers, and with a bit of luck 2 of the coldest numbers is from the same dozen, so it could "fit" your 32/37 bet.
"brace for impact": The idea is simply to start out betting high and then bet smaller and smaller as we know a loss in incoming. In case of playing 5 lines it could be like starting with 5 units on each line, then after a couple of wins go down to 4 units, then after a couple of wins go down to 3 units etc. Same work ok with playing a smaller and smaller martingale aka first 5,10,20,40, then 4,8, 16, 32 then 3, 6, 12, 24 etc,
So when you actually get a genuine loss of a bet or single progression .. its less costly than the initial starting bet/progression = profit. The "danger" of this idea is of cause if you loose your first bets, but you are quite clearly past that point by now :)
Anyways, hope i dont jinx it. Perhaps the real strength of the "single high procentage hit and run" strategy to simply splash the money at a random time on the table & run away instantly with the winnings after the first win. And over-thinking is the killer.
I like your thinking
Playing 30 numbers obviously is an extremely high risk and eventually the loss or losses will come
The idea of betting big then reducing bets is a great idea
If you really are risky enough to play this way then doing a reverse martingale might be smart
Maybe $40 per position dropped to 20 then 10 then 5.
Better then static betting unit size or a marty
If you had a series of 4 bets in a row 40 20 10 5 then you'd have to hit the loss on the 40 each time to really take a hit.
Quote from: ati on Sep 18, 04:02 PM 2017
In case you wondered what you can expect, here's a test of two times 100 spins, and a 500 spins tests of your bet.
It is possible to win 30+ in a row, but 5 lost bets in 10 spins also happened.
What dont you understand about the title of this thread ? Its called hit and run. Not meant to play 100 and even less 500.
That said, I played this before, and I failed. I played with a bankroll of 5,5k, and used to bet 500 on streets, leaving only one uncovered after a repeat. Raised my balance to 22k until the loss. I was still in profit, but so angry that I had wiped days of earnings that I lost control and placed all the remaining balance (15k) on France to beat Germany in the quarter final of the World Cup in Brazil. I let you google how that turned out !!
By the way, remember me ? Havent been in here in 3 years ! But I never stopped the roulette.
Calm down, the graphs are for Andre. I do understand "hit and run", and I also understand that making 1 bet per day for 100 days is the same as making 100 bets in one day. There is absolutely no difference.
It is fantastic that he had a lucky run, but what if he loses the next one? He could make the same mistake as you and many of us did. That is keep playing and raising the stakes. He might think that after losing 1200, he could double the stakes so he would only need 4 wins to get back to the previous high. This is how it usually starts...
I'm not trying to prevent anything, but my post might help him decide whether to quit now, or after the first loss, or after losing it all. Or after winning 50k more? Anything can happen :)
Quote from: ati on Sep 19, 02:04 PM 2017
Calm down, the graphs are for Andre. I do understand "hit and run", and I also understand that making 1 bet per day for 100 days is the same as making 100 bets in one day. There is absolutely no difference.
I do not agree. I believe that the longer you stay in the game the more you are exposed to losing. It's almost like something mystical to me. It is a lot about the state of mind that you are in the day. I believe that if I play ten times I will lose.
Hello fellas!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 2 bets / $300,00 profit
Total profit $3.000,00
No more bets today
By steven1212
"Since roulette is also a game of luck you cant completely discard luck. Im going to take a stupid example. My wife doesn't like to visit our family in LA because she fears an earthquake, so we go the least we can. Maybe once or twice a year.
Sure the earthquake will happen eventually, but if I go the less as possible, I might not be there when it happens. The same way, if you're not "there" too often at the roulette table, you might be in a safe place when the castastrophe happens. "
This is my way of thinking.
Quote from: ati on Sep 19, 02:04 PM 2017
Calm down, the graphs are for Andre. I do understand "hit and run", and I also understand that making 1 bet per day for 100 days is the same as making 100 bets in one day. There is absolutely no difference.
It is fantastic that he had a lucky run, but what if he loses the next one? He could make the same mistake as you and many of us did. That is keep playing and raising the stakes. He might think that after losing 1200, he could double the stakes so he would only need 4 wins to get back to the previous high. This is how it usually starts...
I'm not trying to prevent anything, but my post might help him decide whether to quit now, or after the first loss, or after losing it all. Or after winning 50k more? Anything can happen :)
Anyway thanks for the help!
By the way...
If there was an unbeatable system, we would be at that moment enjoying life with expansive cars, beautiful women and a big mansion... If there was an infallible system, we would not have been in this forum for years searching for the golden pot.
The truth is that when I bet all my body shake and I'm scared to death of losing and all my hopes go away...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 19, 10:51 PM 2017
The truth is that when I bet all my body shake and I'm scared to death of losing and all my hopes go away...
Since this bet will loose just quit. You've been lucky for this long, you should put your greed to rest since you're scared to death of losing your profit.
how long is a piece of string ?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 19, 06:29 PM 2017
By the way...
If there was an unbeatable system, we would be at that moment enjoying life with expansive cars, beautiful women and a big mansion... If there was an infallible system, we would not have been in this forum for years searching for the golden pot.
Actually after 5years of hard work I came close to an unbeatable system. You should take a look at it! Am about to reveal the last secret
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 20, 08:14 AM 2017
Actually after 5years of hard work I came close to an unbeatable system. You should take a look at it! Am about to reveal the last secret
He needs surgery so this would be great.
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 20, 08:14 AM 2017
Actually after 5years of hard work I came close to an unbeatable system. You should take a look at it! Am about to reveal the last secret
Oh really? I am new here in this forum and I am trying to learn something. It would be nice to know your system.
Cheers
Quote from: celescliff on Sep 20, 06:25 AM 2017
Since this bet will loose just quit. You've been lucky for this long, you should put your greed to rest since you're scared to death of losing your profit.
Now that I've started I'll only stop after the first loss.
Thanks for the advice!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 19, 05:27 PM 2017
Hello fellas!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 2 bets / $300,00 profit
Total profit $3.000,00
No more bets today
20 bets. Way up, but I would still not feel comfortable even if one loss doesn't hurt bad. Anyway, congrats!
The thing with this is that losses can cluste that's what hurts
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 20, 11:31 AM 2017
The thing with this is that losses can cluste that's what hurts
Exactly!
So far 20 wins and no loss. But I passed by a few times...
3.000,00 profit in less than a month!
I hope you are lucky enough to only place bets when the losing numbers don't hit and you always win
That would be nice.
Hello fellas!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.150,00
No more bets today
Starting tomorrow I'll double bet
2 quads 300,00 each and 2 dozens 900,00 each
Total bet 2.400,00 for a 300,00 profit in only 1 bet
The higher you bet the higher the probability of winning and if you lose, lose high but if you are lucky, when you lose you will already made a good profit.
That's the truth about roulette. There are no tricks...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 21, 02:34 PM 2017
The higher you bet the higher the probability of winning and if you lose, lose high but if you are lucky, when you lose you will already made a good profit.
That's the truth about roulette. There are no tricks...
Would you be willing to disclose the exact trigger that you use (if any) before you decide to jump in?
You had mentioned in a previous post that you watch several spins before making a move -- that is why I was wondering if you wait for a trigger or not.
If you don't want to reveal it, that is also fine. No problem.
What would the progression be on this bet
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 21, 03:20 PM 2017
Would you be willing to disclose the exact trigger that you use (if any) before you decide to jump in?
You had mentioned in a previous post that you watch several spins before making a move -- that is why I was wondering if you wait for a trigger or not.
If you don't want to reveal it, that is also fine. No problem.
I bet when I realize a tendency in the roulette to appear only high numbers.
It's like if it would appear a black row B B B B B B and I bet on black
I also check the hot and cold numbers.
Don't try betting more than 1 or 2 times. I tried it once with a small amount and I failed.
Hit and run.... Turn off the computer and go sleep... lol
opened up zumma. went through 300 spins. of course 0, 3, 6, 7, 10 hits on every page.
You just have to be lucky enough that your one bet a day doesnt land on those numbers
in the 300 spins i have a back to back loss 5 times. 3 of them were clustered! so be careful
spin 25 6
spin 26 3
------------
spin 129 3
spin 130 0
------------
CLUSTER STARTS HERE
spin 290 0
spin 291 0
------------
spin 294 0
spin 295 6
------------
spin 297 0
spin 298 6
spin 299 0
0 seems to be the culprit on MOST back to back losses in zumma
be careful
last 3 days on J247 airball, 3 days from 618 days, as Rg says be careful
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i mean look, if you do one bet a day you will naturally avoid 2 losses in a row, so that you have on your side
Thanks for the advice!
At this moment if I lose I will be way up in profit.
I will do only one bet a day
That's the goal!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 21, 04:15 PM 2017
I also check the hot and cold numbers.
Okay -- Thanks for your response.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 21, 06:33 PM 2017
opened up zumma.
went through 300 spins. of course 0, 3, 6, 7, 10 hits on every page.
Rich,
Has Mogul hacked into your account and posted the above with your user name ?? :twisted: :twisted:
No pain no gain...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.300,00
No more bets today
I'm lucky! Will the day come?
22 consecutive wins so far...
There is an element of luck in the game lol
Maybe lower bets now
You’ve been very lucky
Soon enough 0 or 3 or 6 will hit
Maybe cut the bets down until you lose a few times.
Before betting I analyze the previous rounds, I wait several rounds until I think it's the exact moment to bet.
Only ONE bet per day! It's hard to lose by betting only once a day.
But I know the day will come ...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 22, 12:19 PM 2017
22 consecutive wins so far...
I believe in this and I know how to make it invincible
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 23, 04:06 AM 2017
I believe in this and I know how to make it invincible
Would you like to tell how?
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 23, 12:22 PM 2017
Would you like to tell how?
its bait
dont worry about it
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 23, 04:06 AM 2017
I believe in this and I know how to make it invincible
I believe you and I'm waiting for it.
Cheers
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.450,00
No more bets today
PS. The ball almost land in 7.... And I almost passed out... lol
Anyway 23 wins so far...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 23, 02:51 PM 2017
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.450,00
No more bets today
PS. The ball almost land in 7.... And I almost passed out... lol
Anyway 23 wins so far...
With your thread you’re proving that the secret I’m about to reveal works. You will like it a lot.
While I wait Steven1212 to send me his system, I stay with my strategy...
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.600,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 31
Anyway 24 wins so far...
Andre, good to see you winning, wish you continue this winning streak.
Perhaps you might want to withdraw $2400 ie. your original profit plus 100% profit - you can never be sure with online casino. That'll leave you to continue play with $1200. Just my $0.02
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 24, 04:12 PM 2017
Anyway 24 wins so far...
Kudos for being so successful with what is undeniably a classic hit-and-run system !
Quote from: cht on Sep 24, 09:32 PM 2017
Andre, good to see you winning, wish you continue this winning streak.
Perhaps you might want to withdraw $2400 ie. your original profit plus 100% profit - you can never be sure with online casino. That'll leave you to continue play with $1200. Just my $0.02
Thank you! I was thinking the same... I'll do it...
But I'll double the bet
2 quads 300,00 each and 2 dozens 900,00 each
Total bet 2.400,00 for a 300,00 profit in only 1 bet
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 24, 09:45 PM 2017
Kudos for being so successful with what is undeniably a classic hit-and-run system !
Thanks!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 19, 06:29 PM 2017
By the way...
If there was an unbeatable system, we would be at that moment enjoying life with expansive cars, beautiful women and a big mansion... If there was an infallible system, we would not have been in this forum for years searching for the golden pot.
This is the reason u might get teased
Maybe I was wrong with that statement. But I believe Steven1212... Maybe finally we have found the golden pot...
As i told u before it exist. I dont know this guy got or not. It exist
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 23, 06:33 PM 2017
With your thread you’re proving that the secret I’m about to reveal works. You will like it a lot.
Now I know what you were trying to say! That's why you took my strategy to show how the last ingredient works...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 24, 10:26 PM 2017Maybe finally we have found the golden pot...
Well, if you ever have tried playing 2 dozens or 11 streets (with or without progression) you would soon figure out how devastating one loss IS, playing that way......WHILE you try to recover, you might get ANOTHER LOSS, and 2 losses, with 2 dozen bet or 11 streets, THAT's Not easy to recover, think again? WHILE you try to recover from 2 losses you might have a 3rd LOSS....(so you'll never reach a New high) THIS is exactly what happens when you play a 2 dozen bet OR 11 streets....
I suggest you invest your money in RX=Roulette Extreme, and try and see this phenomenon is more real than you think....
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 25, 04:02 PM 2017
Well, if you ever have tried playing 2 dozens or 11 streets (with or without progression) you would soon figure out how devastating one loss IS, playing that way......WHILE you try to recover, you might get ANOTHER LOSS, and 2 losses, with 2 dozen bet or 11 streets, THAT's Not easy to recover, think again? WHILE you try to recover from 2 losses you might have a 3rd LOSS....(so you'll never reach a New high) THIS is exactly what happens when you play a 2 dozen bet OR 11 streets....
I suggest you invest your money in RX=Roulette Extreme, and try and see this phenomenon is more real than you think....
24 consecutive wins so far... and doing well.
At the moment if I lose I'll be 3.600,00 in profit
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 25, 05:03 PM 201724 consecutive wins so far... and doing well.
At the moment if I lose I'll be 3.600,00 in profit
Yes, it's "all good" until you get one loss, then you can calculate how many spins you need to recover from that, and as i said, chances are that you encounter a SECOND loss during that time of recovery and so on.. as i said..... you'll see, Quit now and save your money and find a better bet, (because its just a question of time before you lose).....
Quote from: ignatus on Sep 25, 05:19 PM 2017
Yes, it's "all good" until you get one loss, then you can calculate how many spins you need to recover from that, and as i said, chances are that you encounter a SECOND loss during that time of recovery and so on.. as i said..... you'll see, Quit now and save your money and find a better bet, (because its just a question of time before you lose).....
If I lose I will be 3600,00 profit. 8 spins(days) to recover 1200,00
Could you suggest me one?
Another strategy as profitable as this
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 25, 05:26 PM 2017
If I lose I will be 3600,00 profit. 8 spins(days) to recover 1200,00
Could you suggest me one?
Another strategy as profitable as this
Yes, i could help perhaps?,.. if you're going to play crazy, play clever crazy? (if there is such a thing?) i got private msg of someone who said "crossfire" was a good system, HE played also 1 bet/win per day with that system...
(i had a 90% winrate, from my testings, but i suggest you play with lower stakes) in any case it's better than the one you're playing now...
here it is;(take it or leave it) link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18743.msg174972#msg174972
(i also provided example chart of your current system,)
Thank you!
I'll take a look!
I played in my example with a 200u BR that would be 200*5= 1000u BR/Stoploss minimum playing with 5u bets,
And a 500u wingoal. (with 5u bets)
with that I won 18/20 sessions
If you're willing to take that risk, yes?.. But i suggest you try and *test it* before playing for real (IF you're ever going to do it)....
Yes, I will study your strategy and test it.
I'll do it tomorrow and I tell you my thoughts.
If I have any questions can I call you for help?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 25, 06:10 PM 2017Yes, I will study your strategy and test it.
I'll do it tomorrow and I tell you my thoughts.
Well? to be honest, i feel embarressed, ashamed? and a little nervous i mentioned it?, :-[ :-[ (because it's played with martingale) that's always a high risk, you COULD try another progression like +1/-1, .....that may be one thing. (haven't tried that) anyway ...
No pain no gain...
I bet right now 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.750,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 19
25 consecutive wins
Am I crazy betting my strategy? Anyway I'm make money...
Your up and that's all that matters......who cares what anyone else says it is working for you. :thumbsup:
I think you should go on with what you are doing. When you get a loss you can decide then what to do. It's just to hope you are way way ahead. That's how I'm thinking.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 26, 01:30 AM 2017
I think you should go on with what you are doing. When you get a loss you can decide then what to do. It's just to hope you are way way ahead. That's how I'm thinking.
Yes, the strategy is working well for me and for you!
I will continue to make 1 bet per day and after the first loss I will use steven's money management
Steven's money management
If your bankroll is 1200, with your system you can divide in 4 it’s enough. So you bet with 300 8 times a day. If you win the 8 times. You win 300 for that day.
If you lose, the day after you divide again your balance in 4 and start again. If you win 15 sessions in one month and lose THe other 15 , your balance at the end of the month will be 4-5 times bigger.
Just to make sure you understood. In case of a loss, you new balance will be at 900. So your new bet size for your system is 225. If you win your new balance is 1500 so your new bet size is 375.
Play like this every day for one month. I am sure you will do well. Don’t lose hope after a loss. Have faith. Learn to lose and you’ll be strong.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 25, 06:26 PM 2017
No pain no gain...
I bet right now 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.750,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 19
25 consecutive wins
Am I crazy betting my strategy? Anyway I'm make money...
Have you started to withdraw your profit ?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 26, 02:00 PM 2017
Steven's money management
If your bankroll is 1200, with your system you can divide in 4 it’s enough. So you bet with 300 8 times a day. If you win the 8 times. You win 300 for that day.
If you lose, the day after you divide again your balance in 4 and start again. If you win 15 sessions in one month and lose THe other 15 , your balance at the end of the month will be 4-5 times bigger.
Just to make sure you understood. In case of a loss, you new balance will be at 900. So your new bet size for your system is 225. If you win your new balance is 1500 so your new bet size is 375.
Play like this every day for one month. I am sure you will do well. Don’t lose hope after a loss. Have faith. Learn to lose and you’ll be strong.
So it means you will decrease your betsize after a loss? But that means also you need to win more times to get to the balance like it was before. Does it makes sense or I just don't get something here?
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 26, 02:03 PM 2017
Have you started to withdraw your profit ?
Yes, I've withdrawn most of the money
You will make the same amount of bets on the day. You choose whether to make 8 or 7 or 6 .... When you lose you will decrease the bet size, when you win you will increase. As in this strategy the tendency is to have more wins than losses, you will always be in profit
Don't forget to analyze the previous spins and bet when you think is the better moment.
Hell yeah!
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $3.900,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 24
26 consecutive wins
Who's the man?!!... Who's the one?!!
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4050,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 20
27 consecutive wins
Awesome, keep going!
One question: Can I be banned if the casino detects my strategy and my profits?
an online casino can ban you at anytime for any reason
you shouldnt worry though they welcome 32 number players with open arms
if you continue with "hit and run" you may avoid the losses, as hit and run decreases exposure
Thanks rg
I play hit and run
But with much smaller stakes
In one hour I am up 18 units
1 unit on red, 1 unit on 1st column, 1 unit on 3rd column
If your profit target is $150 then play $150 on each position and stop when +1 unit
Actually don’t take my word for it, keep doing what you are doing so I’m not blamed if you lose, lol
But I’m +18 in an hour on a stupid bet.
Most of my wins are break even, as expected which I am ok with. It’s when a red number comes in 1st or 3rd column that I profit.
If you look at the table it’s easy to see why I did this
Minimal layout. 10 numbers not covered.
Got my clicker so that I don’t get disconnected. Clicks the video feed every minute otherwise the casino disconnects me
Id play this way with larger units and be content with 1 a day
Pritty a joke Andre! Your odds are 1 out of 4 can you make the disipline needed yet still you in-counter the house edge,. Come to a good betting choice first of all and if you can bring number choice to 2 or 4 you don't even need to stop perhaps if you lucky
I've bet this way a long time ago and it did not work ... It leaves 8 uncovered numbers and most of wins are break even.
Hi RG,
I play like that some time to start of the club meter but than with even an red toghter and black odd the first two lines, I don't do it so much lately but I tried to bring it in essence lower like in your picture I payed something like line 3 with even and red and the low I thought I liked it with.
No Andre like RG
You would win most of the time and you only play it ones right! So most of the time you win first bet perhaps should be an under statement
You better think what your limit is for you money in your pocket both down and up, you gone be wasted in time for sure
14 numbers win 2 units
10 numbers break even
4 numbers lose 1 unit
9 numbers lose 3 units
For me it’s low risk. Easy way to cover a lot for less
But not for everyone. Just a hit and run idea
2 8 11 17 20 26 29 35 more 0 and you done...
I prefer cover 32 numbers
Ok
RG What system/strategy do you use frequently?
Can’t really answer that. Never stick with the same thing
I let my one unit on red, one unit on 1st col, one unit on 3rd col run all night
When I woke up I was broke even. Didn’t win. Didn’t lose
So I’m liking this for a way to make a few units then stop so I’m gonna go on with this
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 27, 09:51 PM 2017
14 numbers win 2 units
10 numbers break even
4 numbers lose 1 unit
9 numbers lose 3 units
For me it’s low risk. Easy way to cover a lot for less
But not for everyone. Just a hit and run idea
Rich i can hear the tosser over GF giving some stick for this, but what does he know anyway.
I saw
But I won’t give him the time of day anymore. He should grow up
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 26, 02:00 PM 2017
Steven's money management
If your bankroll is 1200, with your system you can divide in 4 it’s enough. So you bet with 300 8 times a day. If you win the 8 times. You win 300 for that day.
If you lose, the day after you divide again your balance in 4 and start again. If you win 15 sessions in one month and lose THe other 15 , your balance at the end of the month will be 4-5 times bigger.
Just to make sure you understood. In case of a loss, you new balance will be at 900. So your new bet size for your system is 225. If you win your new balance is 1500 so your new bet size is 375.
Play like this every day for one month. I am sure you will do well. Don’t lose hope after a loss. Have faith. Learn to lose and you’ll be strong.
Hey you lucky man, but how do you bet those 300 in one day ?
You use a progression or you split the 300 in 8 bets each 37,5 ?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 26, 02:00 PM 2017
Steven's money management
If your bankroll is 1200, with your system you can divide in 4 it’s enough. So you bet with 300 8 times a day. If you win the 8 times. You win 300 for that day.
If you lose, the day after you divide again your balance in 4 and start again. If you win 15 sessions in one month and lose THe other 15 , your balance at the end of the month will be 4-5 times bigger.
Just to make sure you understood. In case of a loss, you new balance will be at 900. So your new bet size for your system is 225. If you win your new balance is 1500 so your new bet size is 375.
Play like this every day for one month. I am sure you will do well. Don’t lose hope after a loss. Have faith. Learn to lose and you’ll be strong.
It's clear that you are messing things up ,Steven MM isn't as you described!
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4200,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 5
28 consecutive wins
I will be millionaire! Lol
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 28, 01:21 PM 2017
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4200,00
No more bets today
The ball landed on 5
28 consecutive wins
I will be millionaire! Lol
what system do you use ?
thx
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 28, 04:42 PM 2017
This is too much dangerous, you risk 1200 to win 150!
Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 28, 04:46 PM 2017
This is too much dangerous, you risk 1200 to win 150!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...
You can bet a smaller amount.
At the moment if I lose I get 3000.00 more 1200,00 inicial bet size.
Beside ur regular betting you can test some other system. Who know could find a better one
Quote from: Madi on Sep 28, 05:01 PM 2017
Beside ur regular betting you can test some other system. Who know could find a better one
I will use Steven's money management after the first loss
If you are going to start a business you will have to invest money and it is also risky not to work.
I also been thinking to use this kind of bet - the original is Romanosky
The down side with topic is the missing knowledge
For example why would aim to win nine attempts to operate with casino money
The losing sequence will wipe out all profits
I would improve this selection method in two ways
First i would use Regression Up & Pull wish would allow me to operate with casino money after four attempts and change into positiv progression
to push for more (with out risking your own money)
Then i would chart all combinations for the selection method and tracking down the sleeping location among does using the median value as trigger to bet
When i have time i will locate this topic again and show some results
Cheers
Quote from: ego on Sep 29, 09:21 AM 2017
The down side with topic is the missing knowledge
Yes, I am an idiot!
Then i would chart all combinations for the selection method and tracking down the sleeping location among does using the median value as trigger to bet
What do u think I'm doing?
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4.350,00
Hit 32
No more bets today
29 consecutive wins
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 21, 06:33 PM 2017
opened up zumma. went through 300 spins. of course 0, 3, 6, 7, 10 hits on every page.
You just have to be lucky enough that your one bet a day doesnt land on those numbers
in the 300 spins i have a back to back loss 5 times. 3 of them were clustered! so be careful
spin 25 6
spin 26 3
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spin 129 3
spin 130 0
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CLUSTER STARTS HERE
spin 290 0
spin 291 0
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spin 294 0
spin 295 6
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spin 297 0
spin 298 6
spin 299 0
0 seems to be the culprit on MOST back to back losses in zumma
be careful
Rich, what do you think I bet after 2 consecutive virtual loss?
Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 28, 09:01 AM 2017
It's clear that you are messing things up ,Steven MM isn't as you described!
Would you like to describe Steven's MM? I don't get it. Maybe it's not suitable for this kind of betting.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 29, 01:29 PM 2017
Would you like to describe Steven's MM? I don't get it. Maybe it's not suitable for this kind of betting.
This is the steven1212 original post on the originais thread
If your bankroll is 1200, with your system you can divide in 4 it’s enough. So you bet with 300 8 times a day. If you win the 8 times. You win 300 for that day.
If you lose, the day after you divide again your balance in 4 and start again. If you win 15 sessions in one month and lose THe other 15 , your balance at the end of the month will be 4-5 times bigger.
Just to make sure you understood. In case of a loss, you new balance will be at 900. So your new bet size for your system is 225. If you win your new balance is 1500 so your new bet size is 375.
Play like this every day for one month. I am sure you will do well. Don’t lose hope after a loss. Have faith. Learn to lose and you’ll be strong.
You decide make 1 bet a day or use Steven MM.
I'll try it only after my first loss...
That's my strategy.
Roulette30.com/win/win-roulette-romanosky-secret-strategy
Thanks Andre. I think I'm starting to understand it. Why just divide it Into 4 and the question is when to increase the size bet? But as long as you win you don't need to think about that. I see there are different Romansky bet but I'm satisfied with the one you brought up.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 29, 02:20 PM 2017
That's my strategy.
x/win/win-roulette-romanosky-secret-strategy
CHART #1:
- 3 units on dozens 2 and 3.
- 1 unit on squares 2/6 and 7/11.
Uncovered: 0, 1, 4, 9, 12.
CHART #2:
- 3 units on dozens 2 and 3.
- 1 unit on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
Uncovered: 0, 3, 6, 7, 10.
CHART #3:
- 3 units on dozens 1 and 3.
- 1 unit on squares 14/18 and 19/23.
Uncovered: 0, 13, 16, 21, 24.
CHART #4:
- 3 units on dozen 1 and 3.
- 1 unit on squares 13/17 and 20/24.
Uncovered: 0, 15, 18, 19, 22.
CHART #5:
- 3 units on dozens 1and 2.
- 1 unit on squares 26/30 and 31/35.
Uncovered: 0, 25, 28, 33, 36.
CHART #6:
- 3 units on dozens 1and 2.
- 1 unit on squares 25/29 and 32/36.
Uncovered: 0, 27, 30, 31, 34.
If you use your observation, you'll notice column 2 is covered at all times by the bets; use it to your advantage too!
There's no step's progression on this kind of bet
link:s://youtu.be/AelTPCP_0Lw
I bet
450,00 on dozens
150,00 on corners
1 bet a day
Off topic
Do you like roulette? Do you like rock n roll?
link:s://youtu.be/AHPUF94aG44
Bet the black, comes in red
Crimes of passion rule my head
I need you, you want him, dressed to kill
We live in sin
I know the game you play, I know it well
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down
Roulette - Goin' round in a spin
Caught up in a game you can't win
Roulette - you're just a fantasy
Its everything that you want it to be
Play the numbers one by one
Fire the shot and the damage is done
Restless lovers pay the price
Cheating hearts don't think twice
When you make the rules
No one can slow you down
You just keep 'em waiting
When you're on the prowl
Backdoor runner got away this time
Leaves her mark at the scene of the crime
Nothing matters no faces no names
You're just a number, its all the same
You just love to play the game
I know the game you play, I know it well
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 29, 10:29 PM 2017
Off topic
Do you like roulette? Do you like rock n roll?
link:s://youtu.be/AHPUF94aG44
Bet the black, comes in red
Crimes of passion rule my head
I need you, you want him, dressed to kill
We live in sin
I know the game you play, I know it well
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down
Roulette - Goin' round in a spin
Caught up in a game you can't win
Roulette - you're just a fantasy
Its everything that you want it to be
Play the numbers one by one
Fire the shot and the damage is done
Restless lovers pay the price
Cheating hearts don't think twice
When you make the rules
No one can slow you down
You just keep 'em waiting
When you're on the prowl
Backdoor runner got away this time
Leaves her mark at the scene of the crime
Nothing matters no faces no names
You're just a number, its all the same
You just love to play the game
I know the game you play, I know it well
You just keep on playin' when all the bets are down
The road to hell :(
Today 1 bet / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4.500,00
Hit 18
No more bets today
30 consecutive wins
Starting tomorrow I will bet after 2 or 3 consecutive virtual losses as a trigger.
It take time waiting...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 30, 12:33 PM 2017
Starting tomorrow I will bet after 2 or 3 consecutive virtual losses as a trigger.
It take time waiting...
For what reason? It can sure take time waiting..maybe hours. Maybe it's a good idea, but I don't think I will have the patience and nor the time for it.
Hey guys,
I have been trying your method Andre using Stevens MM on RX, basically trying to win 8 times in a row attempting to double the small bankroll like he said, but unfortunately I haven't been able win many sessions as I thought I would (Becouse we are betting 30 numbers)...I would say on average I could win 3/10 sessions, which is not enough to win, as we need to win more than 38% of the sessions to achieve profits in the long run, have you guys seen any other system that could win at least 45% of the sessions in the long run? I have seen some of Ignatus systems that seem to qualify, but havent tried them yet...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 29, 12:31 PM 2017
what do you think I bet after 2 consecutive virtual loss?
Yes, waiting for two virtual losses would build in a safety factor.
The downside is that with this particular betting method, two consecutive virtual losses would entail a long wait.
Maybe one virtual loss would be better.
In any case, for the present moment, keep doing what you are doing (since you are so much in profit) -- you can think about tweaks, once you have your first loss.
Quote from: romano0327 on Sep 30, 01:13 PM 2017
Hey guys,
I have been trying your method Andre using Stevens MM on RX, basically trying to win 8 times in a row attempting to double the small bankroll like he said, but unfortunately I haven't been able win many sessions as I thought I would (Becouse we are betting 30 numbers)...I would say on average I could win 3/10 sessions, which is not enough to win, as we need to win more than 38% of the sessions to achieve profits in the long run, have you guys seen any other system that could win at least 45% of the sessions in the long run? I have seen some of Ignatus systems that seem to qualify, but havent tried them yet...
I have not yet tried Steven's money management, so I still do not have an opinion on this.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 30, 12:45 PM 2017
For what reason? It can sure take time waiting..maybe hours. Maybe it's a good idea, but I don't think I will have the patience and nor the time for it.
I only make 1 bet per day and it's a high bet (1.200,00). I think it's worth waiting for 2 or 3 virtual losses. This makes the strategy almost invincible. I have studied roulette and it is very difficult 3 consecutive losses using this strategy.
I have the time because lately roulette is my job.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 30, 02:20 PM 2017
Yes, waiting for two virtual losses would build in a safety factor.
The downside is that with this particular betting method, two consecutive virtual losses would entail a long wait.
Maybe one virtual loss would be better.
In any case, for the present moment, keep doing what you are doing (since you are so much in profit) -- you can think about tweaks, once you have your first loss.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 30, 12:45 PM 2017
For what reason? It can sure take time waiting..maybe hours. Maybe it's a good idea, but I don't think I will have the patience and nor the time for it.
I only make 1 bet per day and it's a high bet (1.200,00). I think it's worth waiting for 2 or 3 virtual losses. This makes the strategy almost invincible. I have studied roulette and it is very difficult 3 consecutive losses using this strategy.
I have the time because lately roulette is my job.
After having some time and going through zumma the only time I had 3 losses in a row with this bet selection was because of the zeros
However I did see a few times 2 losses in a row happen very close together
So be careful.
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spin 25 6
spin 26 3
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spin 129 3
spin 130 0
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CLUSTER STARTS HERE
spin 290 0
spin 291 0
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spin 294 0
spin 295 6
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spin 297 0
spin 298 6
spin 299 0
Math gurus slam this. But I don’t care - consider insurance on 0
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 02:42 PM 2017
After having some time and going through zumma the only time I had 3 losses in a row with this bet selection was because of the zeros
However I did see a few times 2 losses in a row happen very close together
So be careful
Math gurus slam this. But I don’t care - consider insurance on 0
So I wait for 3 virtual losses it will be hard to break the strategy...
One option would be to locate a table that already has 2 or 3 losses and use that as a trigger.
Andre, waiting for 1,2 or 3 virtual loses is not going to change the odds of another loss on the next spin, I once did a large test on excel for EC's and for one of Winkels methods called (Win as much as you want) Basically on the test I wanted to see what were the odds of an event happening again after a virtual loss, for example on the EC's, I wanted to see if there was, any difference on betting on black right on the first spin of any session or if it was better to bet black after two virtual losses (Two consecutive reds)... And my resuts were the following : if I had I played black on the first spin I would win have of the time (out of 100 bets / around 50 bets would win) ... And if I played black only after two consecutives reds I would have to wait, meaning less betting opportunities and results were the same (out of 50 betting oportunities / around 25 would win)
Basically if you decide to wait for virtual loses, you will have less betting opportunities and you will have the same proportion of wins a loses in those betting opportunities.
Just my two cents. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 30, 02:49 PM 2017
So I wait for 3 virtual losses it will be hard to break the strategy...
Well yea. But it took 300 spins before I saw that
Long wait
But, that’s the thing with roulette. Can happen anytime
So keep doing what you are doing. You can afford a loss.
I think I've seen 3 numbers in row like 3,6,0...but I don't remember if I've seen 4 if that kind of betting would be the trigger. I was first thinking if you would pick a certain number or numbers and bet after a few virtual losses. But maybe the other way is better.
Typically zero is in the mix
Insurance....
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 03:23 PM 2017
Typically zero is in the mix
Insurance....
What's zumma?
Could you do me a favor and test it again? Or explain me how to do it?
Zumma is a collection of real wheel spins
You can buy it online
I run every system through it
Very rarely does this have 3 losses in a row
Just prepare.
I'm trying to find it...
Where can I find the zumma tester?
My Ramanonsky strategy version!
2 bets a day - $1.275,00 bet size - Total profit : $150,00 a day
- 450,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 150,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 75,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.
The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses. It makes the strategy almost invincible.
Too risky?
If you are going to start a business you will have to invest money and it is also risky. Think about it!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 30, 04:41 PM 2017
My Ramanonsky strategy version!
2 bets a day - $1.275,00 bet size - Total profit : $150,00 a day
- 450,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 150,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 75,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.
The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses. It makes the strategy almost invincible.
Too risky?
If you are going to start a business you will have to invest money and it is also risky. Think about it!
so you covered two additional numbers...that makes your stragedy a bit better.. Good luck
If it hits 0-3 u wont get that.
Oh sorry. 75 per bet ur return. Not bad
Don't you want to take too much risk? Reduce the bet size.
2 bets a day - $425,00 bet size - Total profit : $50,00 a day
- 150,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 50,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 25,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.
The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Sep 30, 07:08 PM 2017
Don't you want to take too much risk? Reduce the bet size.
2 bets a day - $425,00 bet size - Total profit : $50,00 a day
- 150,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 50,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 25,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.
The trigger: Wait for 2 or 3 virtual losses.
For the time being, keep doing what is working for you.
Remember: if it ain't broke, don't fix it !
I just saw the number 10 hit 3 consecutive times
10, 10, 10
It's just unbelievable!!!!
i was playing a bit of EC yesterday and noticed 0, 1, 7 and 10 was all cold numbers (se attached picture). Was thinking of trying the bet, but then 7 hit while i was thinking about it. Talk about scary, lol.
I start to use my new strategy with 2 bets covering 34 numbers.
Today 2 bets / $150,00 profit
Total profit $.4.650,00
Hit 22 and 5
No more bets today
33 consecutive wins
Did you wait for triggers? If so, how many?
Quote from: boyd30 on Oct 01, 01:48 PM 2017
Did you wait for triggers? If so, how many?
Att the time I waited for 1 virtual loss.
But I think it's safer waiting for 2 losses. The problem is that take a long time waiting...
Lower betsize $51,00 - Profit 3,00
- 18,00 on dozens 2 and 3.
- 6,00 on squares 1/5 and 8/12.
- 3,00 on numbers 3 and 0
Uncovered: 6, 7, 10.
The trigger: Wait for 1 virtual loss
Hello fellas!
It was a long journey.... But I had my first loss.
I waited for a trigger: 1 virtual loss
Hit 6 then I bet and 6 hit again...
I should have waited 2 virtual losses... It's safer
But it's alright! I was waiting for this day...
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 30, 08:09 PM 2017
For the time being, keep doing what is working for you.
Remember: if it ain't broke, don't fix it !
You were right!
Lucky you didn't bet so much. You are still much ahead.
Should I start again?
Quote from: romano0327 on Sep 30, 03:16 PM 2017
Andre, waiting for 1,2 or 3 virtual loses is not going to change the odds of another loss on the next spin, I once did a large test on excel for EC's and for one of Winkels methods called (Win as much as you want) Basically on the test I wanted to see what were the odds of an event happening again after a virtual loss, for example on the EC's, I wanted to see if there was, any difference on betting on black right on the first spin of any session or if it was better to bet black after two virtual losses (Two consecutive reds)... And my resuts were the following : if I had I played black on the first spin I would win have of the time (out of 100 bets / around 50 bets would win) ... And if I played black only after two consecutives reds I would have to wait, meaning less betting opportunities and results were the same (out of 50 betting oportunities / around 25 would win)
Basically if you decide to wait for virtual loses, you will have less betting opportunities and you will have the same proportion of wins a loses in those betting opportunities.
Just my two cents. :thumbsup:
Now I can see it! You were right!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Oct 03, 04:42 PM 2017
Now I can see it! You were right!
I like your strategy, it can be successful... all what you have to do is to play only one spin per day.
my advice to you, find out how much profit you made so far... and invest only 25 % and withdraw the rest into your bank account.
Quote from: kingmaq on Oct 03, 04:58 PM 2017
I like your strategy, it can be successful... all what you have to do is to play only one spin per day.
my advice to you, find out how much profit you made so far... and invest only 25 % and withdraw the rest into your bank account.
Thank you my friend!
Total profit after 33 wins and 1 loss $.4.650,00 - 1.200,00 ( bet size) = 3.450,00
Andre I also liked your bet selection, I really want to apply Steven's MM but I need to find a bet selection that can mathematically be proven to double one of the small bankrolls at least 45% of the the sessions played (This could lead to profits by the end of the month)
Would you like to join the search for it?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Oct 03, 05:07 PM 2017
Total profit after 33 wins and 1 loss $.4.650,00 - 1.200,00 ( bet size) = 3.450,00
In spite of your first loss, your net result is still impressive !
Your bet selection strategy has rekindled my interest in selectively betting simultaneously on many numbers (and leaving only a few numbers uncovered).
Quote from: romano0327 on Oct 03, 05:24 PM 2017
Andre I also liked your bet selection, I really want to apply Steven's MM but I need to find a bet selection that can mathematically be proven to double one of the small bankrolls at least 45% of the the sessions played (This could lead to profits by the end of the month)
Would you like to join the search for it?
If you look for mathematical proof, you are setting yourself too high a standard and highly unlikely you find it.
The better option is to simulate betselection with potential over large sample size.
Even if you find this net positive betselection, it still need to be viable meaning it generates enough profits over a typical play timetable.
That's what you attempt to do which ends up in failure, waste of effort and time unless you have the capacity and resource. Not something you want to hear. :(
Quote from: romano0327 on Oct 03, 05:24 PM 2017
Andre I also liked your bet selection, I really want to apply Steven's MM but I need to find a bet selection that can mathematically be proven to double one of the small bankrolls at least 45% of the the sessions played (This could lead to profits by the end of the month)
Would you like to join the search for it?
Yes, let's do it!
I want to thank everyone who followed my bets and helped me in some way.
I'll start again... But now only 1 bet per day, 2 losses as a trigger and covering 34 numbers
Tomorrow I'll start it again...