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37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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seykid31

I always thought short terms made up long term  :)

Concerning bias,I presume 1000 of spins and not what some refer as temporary biased. Which is really the dealer hitting a particular sector out of boredom which I find great to pounce on. Especially some lady dealers. That's just an observation. Don't crucify me  ;D

The General


QuoteI always thought short terms made up long term  :)

Yep, pretty much. :)

QuoteConcerning bias,I presume 1000 of spins and not what some refer as temporary biased. Which is really the dealer hitting a particular sector out of boredom which I find great to pounce on. Especially some lady dealers. That's just an observation. Don't crucify me  ;D

Yes, you need a significant number of spins.  If the bias is weak, then you need a ton of spins.  If the bias is strong, then you need far fewer spins than a ton.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

seykid31

Quote from: The General on Sep 09, 12:14 AM 2018
Yep, pretty much. :)

Yes, you need a significant number of spins.  If the bias is weak, then you need a ton of spins.  If the bias is strong, then you need far fewer spins than a ton.

I play online at a particular betting shop with live feed. It's interesting though the dealers out of boredom the pattern they will create but once people sat at table to play. All change.
At an online casino I play,VB out of question. Once you finish betting 24 seconds. No more bet. Then dealer spin. But this one the dominant sector is different for each dealer. Change every 20-25 spins.

seykid31

Not wanting to get out of topics earlier but Concerning 37 spins and filling the double singles etc.. I try a set of spins yesterday for 37 spins ,number 12 and 18 had no hit. Then the next 37,spins both hit like crazy  meaning if playing them would have made more money than repeats in previous 37 spins. Randomness  ???

junscissorhands

Quote from: The General on Sep 08, 07:33 PM 2018
Of course some of the numbers will repeat and some won't hit at all.  That's variance and basic probability.  That's what is predicted.  Unfortunately you have no idea as to which number will continue hitting and which ones won't after such an observation. 
Of course you can merely bet using hit frequency distribution betting, but when you do so you'll find that over time, there's just one or two too many pockets on the wheel for it to win.   I can handily prove this for you guys on my simulators using real wheel data if someone would like to see proof that it's not going to work.

  In the meantime, you're wasting your time with your old and out dated ideas involving "the law of the third"/"Trot nonsense.  The reason many of you are stuck on these old recycled ideas is because of some old VB friends of mine.  They used the law of the third as a cover story for why they were winning back in 1982.  It hit several news outlets at the time, and people began trying to replicate their results.

Wrong, once you enter a fresh spincycle there are many indicators which will show which numbers will hit again, not just repeaters.

How about you give me 24 spins (euro wheel) and I will tell you which numbers will hit 13 spins later.
Don't be so naive.

Herby

Quote from: junscissorhands on Sep 09, 03:39 AM 2018
How about you give me 24 spins (euro wheel) and I will tell you which numbers will hit 13 spins later.

To speed things up maybe you accept my 24 spins:

36,2,25,31,6,20,16,9,22,27,12,21,25,21,26,8,36,12,30,30,7,26,25,7

Joe

Try mine too.  :thumbsup:

20
21
26
31
22
31
20
31
15
23
23
14
16
11
32
2
35
10
14
17
29
30
19
17
Logic. It's always in the way.

-Katalyst-

@ Caleb
-sure, all good-

Nimo keep doing what your doing  :thumbsup:
-there is no off switch for the genius button -

“envy is ignorance, imitation is suicide”

junscissorhands

Herby, few of these numbers will certainly hit :

36
28
13
35
11
25
2
9
22
17
27
6
21
4
12
31

You've posted 18 numbers BTW not 24
Don't be so naive.

junscissorhands

Quote from: Joe on Sep 09, 03:57 AM 2018
Try mine too.  :thumbsup:

20
21
26
31
22
31
20
31
15
23
23
14
16
11
32
2
35
10
14
17
29
30
19
17

9
15
21
14
2
31
20
23
8
19
11
10
17
25
34
1
32
Don't be so naive.

Herby

Quote from: junscissorhands on Sep 09, 04:45 AM 2018
Herby, few of these numbers will certainly hit :

36, 28, 13, 35, 11, 25, 2, 9, 22, 17, 27, 6, 21, 4, 12, 31

You've posted 18 numbers BTW not 24

The following numbers:

10, 14, 12, 3, 13, 29, 7, 12, 35, 24, 10, 18, 6

Thanks and gratulations: 5 hits if I count right  :thumbsup:

junscissorhands

You are welcome.

I always know which numbers will hit. It's not magic. It's a law and a weakness.

And it's exploitable.
Don't be so naive.

ayk

Jun, if you dont mind, I would like to post my 37 spins too. Got em 3h ago from live wheel. I uploaded the 24 and 37 spins image of my tracker at the same time on different platforms. I'll post the result after your reply. Thx


3
35
22
28
25
22
8
7
12
24
7
18
10
1
27
33
24
0
6
6
0
29
18
2

Joe

Quote from: junscissorhands on Sep 09, 04:50 AM 20189 15 21 14 2 31 20 23 8 19 11 10 17 25 34 1 32
Thanks. The next 13 spins were :
21 *
14 *
34 *
30
2  *
12
3
23 *
0
13
30
35
28
I marked the numbers which you posted with an asterisk. So there were 5 hits but this isn't anything special if you were betting all of your numbers (17) for 13 spins. In fact the chance of 5 or more hits if betting 17 numbers for 13 spins is just under 80%.

But suppose you were betting only one number at a time in the sequence you posted, ie first bet #9, then #15, then #21 etc. In that case you would have got 2 wins on numbers 2 & 23. Pretty good.

But these samples are so small they are meaningless. You don't need to test over millions of spins, but there is a happy medium. ;-).
Why not just post the algorithm you use and then we can all do our own testing?
Logic. It's always in the way.

denzie

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 06:06 PM 2018
Nothing in life is permanent. I was almost a millionaire, Then I've already proven I can survive on poverty and still manage to figure out gambling. And I have been influential in the world regarding randomness. And what I have now, with a succinct set of playing rules, outclasses what I taught you on an order of magnitude.  All I'm going to do is disappear into my new status as a professional, tax paying, gambler. Let's all take notice that you have searched and have yet to succeed in your efforts. On a scale of things in my bucket list, you have thrown your life away, where I have filled mine to the brim. It would be fun to watch you try to learn, living far below the poverty level.  You have know knowledge of character. I know this because of what other people say about you. You are the poor man.

First...I dont care what people say or think on a forum.
Second...to much talk...start on MPR...show us
Third..I was almost was a miljonair too but just didn't won the lottery....still Never broke though
Fourth....carry on guys
Fifth....waiting mpr
Sixt...still waiting
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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