Hector's Grail.

[Shadowman]

Bayes

I think that Spike only had problems with the roulette machines that had RNGs,  I believe he used to do quite well with the spins at random.org.  I do wonder if there is something funny with those machines as I have played them a number of times and the ball has landed in a winning number and then after half a second jumped to a losing number.  I also don't think that George will mind too much that the thread has changed into this fascinating direction.

Barcode

well done on your success to date,  I tinkered with the up runs and down runs of the series at one time but didn't get very far,  however I may revisit it, thanks.

one other thing,  how frequently have you found that the series balance out into their correct proportions, on average, ie. double the amount of 1s than 2s etc.  I remember a couple have people say around 300 spins, is this the same as your experience?

Mike

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Bayes

I think that Spike only had problems with the roulette machines that had RNGs,  I believe he used to do quite well with the spins at random.org.  I do wonder if there is something funny with those machines as I have played them a number of times and the ball has landed in a winning number and then after half a second jumped to a losing number.  I also don't think that George will mind too much that the thread has changed into this fascinating direction.

Barcode

well done on your success to date,  I tinkered with the up runs and down runs of the series at one time but didn't get very far,  however I may revisit it, thanks.

one other thing,  how frequently have you found that the series balance out into their correct proportions, on average, ie. double the amount of 1s than 2s etc.  I remember a couple have people say around 300 spins, is this the same as your experience?

Mike

All i'm concerned with is the short-term, the past 15 spins or so, nothing will ever be truly balanced and that's not really what i'm looking for.  But in a typical random stream, you will notice several singles, maybe a few 2's, maybe one series of 3, maybe a series of 4 or more.  Walk around any casino and look at the red and black on the history board and this is what you will see a majority of the time. 
For example:  If I see the past 15 spins has mostly 2's and 3's with a single only here or there, I can start to favor singles in the next upcoming spins b/c I know that singles appear more than 2's and 3's in a typical random stream.
Alot of times the stream will remain perfectly random for 100 spins, which to the average person might looks like chaos.  This would look something like this 1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,4,3,2,1,2,1,1.  But when I see this, I can play for it to continue, with experience I know how random behaves, I know what to typically expect, and I can play within it if that makes sense.  It's always just a guess, but an educated guess.  All I have to guess is better than 50% to be a winner.

[Bayes]

Awesome ! Sounds like Game On !!

Might be a bit premature Paul, barcode said he'd think about it, not that he would definitely do it. I'm not going to put pressure on him, but it would be great if he does. 

@ Shadowman,

Yeah I think you're right about Spike. I seem to remember that he claimed that he did as well using spins from random.org as he did using actuals.

[Twisteruk]

Might be a bit premature Paul, barcode said he'd think about it, not that he would definitely do it. I'm not going to put pressure on him, but it would be great if he does. 

Very true, thank you Bayes. I'm just really excited to see this !

[Shadowman]

Thanks Barcode,  that was a very informative post

Mike

[GLC]

All i'm concerned with is the short-term, the past 15 spins or so, nothing will ever be truly balanced and that's not really what i'm looking for.  But in a typical random stream, you will notice several singles, maybe a few 2's, maybe one series of 3, maybe a series of 4 or more.  Walk around any casino and look at the red and black on the history board and this is what you will see a majority of the time. 
For example:  If I see the past 15 spins has mostly 2's and 3's with a single only here or there, I can start to favor singles in the next upcoming spins b/c I know that singles appear more than 2's and 3's in a typical random stream.
a lot of times the stream will remain perfectly random for 100 spins, which to the average person might looks like chaos.  This would look something like this 1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,4,3,2,1,2,1,1.  But when I see this, I can play for it to continue, with experience I know how random behaves, I know what to typically expect, and I can play within it if that makes sense.  It's always just a guess, but an educated guess.  All I have to guess is better than 50% to be a winner.

This post should be read by everyone who aspires to winning consistently at this game.  It's probably what Hector was hinting at with his system when he indicated that just mechanical playing wouldn't cut the mustard.  He made it sound like intuition but I think your statement "...with experience I know how random behaves,..." is what he meant.

[Dutchy]

    George thanks for the story on Hector,entertaining and the method is worthy of a look see.Barcode question for you,16spins -8 singles,8doubles then exploit or too short of a sequence for this to apply?Your right about it's an educated guess.

[albertojonas]

    George thanks for the story on Hector,entertaining and the method is worthy of a look see.Barcode question for you,16spins -8 singles,8doubles then exploit or too short of a sequence for this to apply?Your right about it's an educated guess.

I wish it would happen all the time...
I would just bet for larger series after an indication. sure deal. 

[Dutchy]

  Albertojonas,
                    What I mean is this, if I recorded 16 spins and used 8 singles and 8 sequences of two or more as a baseline for bets and I get 9 singles and 7 sequences of two or more I'll be betting for two's or more because it's below the baseline.But I wouldn't bet if I only get a difference of one.I need a difference of two or more.Would this work or do I need more spins?

[ego]

I will not point out liar's - but if you want this method to work with best results you have to use events and not trails - i can see some confusion about that - wish is based upon that pepole don't understand the relationship with true imbalance and balance and the law of series.

There is only one way to create a lophole and aim for larger series - and i know how.
This work has already been made by Marigny and all others just try to do the same thing being copy cats.

[albertojonas]

  Albertojonas,
                    What I mean is this, if I recorded 16 spins and used 8 singles and 8 sequences of two or more as a baseline for bets and I get 9 singles and 7 sequences of two or more I'll be betting for two's or more because it's below the baseline.But I wouldn't bet if I only get a difference of one.I need a difference of two or more.Would this work or do I need more spins?

I will not point out liar's - but if you want this method to work with best results you have to use events and not trails - i can see some confusion about that - wish is based upon that pepole don't understand the relationship with true imbalance and balance and the law of series.

There is only one way to create a lophole and aim for larger series - and i know how.
This work has already been made by Marigny and all others just try to do the same thing being copy cats.

@ Dutch
In your post you mentioned something confusing. 16 spins or 16 events? I suppose events, otherwise how could you get 8 singles + 8 doubles? =24 spins. (note that you mentioned doubles, not "sequences of two or more")
Anyway, i see the intent of the question was towards Hector's system...
Well, in my opinion you should consider events and then, You would need more spins.
Based on what Ego wrote, i will disclose a bit of what i think he means, as he is the authority in the subject...


If you were presented with that string you would have 16 events and could try measure and aim for larger series:



Singels has the value of 1
Series of two has the value of 0
Series of three has the value of 1
Series of four has the value of 2
Series of five has the value of 3
Series of six has the value of 4
.....................................................................

[ego]

albertojonas

Yes does is the math values and the topic is trending based upon them - clever if you use events and not trails as we deal with the observations of series of three and higher series.

Did you know it works the other way around.

If you get many events of series of three and higher series - then after some imbalance you get strings of singles and series of two based upon the same principal as above.

[Shadowman]

@ Barcode

what I find most interesting about the way that you play,  is that you are looking at the very short term, ie. 10-15 spins. 

Often times we look to longer strings of numbers for data, but I have noticed that in the overall wave of the graph for EC distribution, which is biased in one direction, is that there is a fractal like quality.  That is to say that there are still many, if not the majority, of random mini waves, amongst the dominance. I have often wondered if there is a way of capitalising on these,  you appear to have come with an interesting possibility and I wish you all the best with it.

Thank you for being so open with your  method, as it opens the door to  a number of avenues and premises to test, definitely something to think about.

Mike

[bikemotorman]

This seems like a fun way to play, just keep an eye on all even chances then you should have plenty of 
chances to play.
Last night I played this on Jebet for an hour and if you keep your eyes open you will make some profit.






Stuart




:.987power.com

[bikemotorman]

I have seem to have the greatest success playing this on a Single Doz or Col.


I wait 15 spins and if no Doz or Col has had a triple I play the last spun Doz or Col, I give it six shots to get my win.


I use a 1 2 3 4 5 6 progression on the Doz or Col.


So far it works and is fun to play.




                                                               Stuart                :.987power.com