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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Kan@am@

Quote from: Elite on Feb 26, 04:07 AM 2019
24/8 =3  so many thoughts received. Who will confirm which one suitable.... I think it's math questions so here my solutiin
24/8=3
24= 8*3
24/3=8
1/3= 8/24
1/3= 1/3
1/1=3/3
1=1

Solved.... 🙌🙌🍹🍹🍹🍹🍹


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Elite

 O0:  now i decided i will do what wheel will do,

nottophammer


This I tried 1st 4 #’s with pairs. 1st #15, its pair going forward on mat and its pair going forward on wheel. If the #, like here #14 I bet the pair going forward on mat but bet going backwards on the side 5-26; so you could say going forward from the zero; both sides.
Good start; so should I have stopped?
Okay so carried on to spin 37, last time in profit spin 31. At spin 37; -2930 units. So General how am I going to get out of vaddi’s hole?
The game started 10/10. So 10+15=25; so at spin 40 we should have 25 non-hits. Spin 37, there was 25 non-hits. So by spin 60 we usually have 30 non-hits.
So I bet the 12 remaining non-hit and made the mistake of not going 3 units for spin 40 and was back to start of -2930 units. So I carried on using the bookies prog: I use.
At spin 60 we’ve had 30 non-hit and still in hole, but spin 63 win with still available 9 spins too bet.
Out the hole General all down to average and not one pocket to0 many.

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Kan@am@

Quote from: Elite on Feb 26, 01:05 PM 2019
O0:  now i decided i will do what wheel will do,

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Elite

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 26, 01:09 PM 2019

This I tried 1st 4 #’s with pairs. 1st #15, its pair going forward on mat and its pair going forward on wheel. If the #, like here #14 I bet the pair going forward on mat but bet going backwards on the side 5-26; so you could say going forward from the zero; both sides.
Good start; so should I have stopped?
Okay so carried on to spin 37, last time in profit spin 31. At spin 37; -2930 units. So General how am I going to get out of vaddi’s hole?
The game started 10/10. So 10+15=25; so at spin 40 we should have 25 non-hits. Spin 37, there was 25 non-hits. So by spin 60 we usually have 30 non-hits.
So I bet the 12 remaining non-hit and made the mistake of not going 3 units for spin 40 and was back to start of -2930 units. So I carried on using the bookies prog: I use.
At spin 60 we’ve had 30 non-hit and still in hole, but spin 63 win with still available 9 spins too bet.
Out the hole General all down to average and not one pocket to0 many.


350 euro on 20? killer system man

Kan@am@

If I would like to design a system with implemented element as law of third and think that neighbours on #1 are #0 and #2,than I would rather look for a roulette wheel with numbers placed in arithmetical order : 1,2,3.....36,0.,not random as on European or American roulette wheel.

Elite

Quote from: Kan@am@ on Feb 26, 01:24 PM 2019
If I would like to design a system with implemented element as law of third and think that neighbours on #1 are #0 and #2,than I would rather look for a roulette wheel with numbers placed in arithmetical order : 1,2,3.....36,0.,not random as on European or American roulette wheel.

as  per dyclylic  theory

It means that I took random words and turned them into ORDERED words.

Turning 'RANDOM' into 'ORDER' is what you are TRYING to do when you place a bet in roulette.

The roulette wheel is 'RANDOM', and the roulette table is 'ORDER'...

Hope this helps.


gosh, any idea if u got tell me also :)

Kan@am@

When I look at the real wheel I see #20 and #33 next to the #1.When I look at the roulette table I see #0 and #2 next to the #1.and at the casino croupier is not turning roulette table .Any time I see him/her turning something   it will be the wheel .

Gitano

Quote from: Kan@am@ on Feb 26, 02:06 PM 2019
When I look at the real wheel I see #20 and #33 next to the #1.When I look at the roulette table I see #0 and #2 next to the #1.and at the casino croupier is not turning roulette table .Any time I see him/her turning something   it will be the wheel .


Totally agreed with you Kanam, I 'm testing in statistical way, a method, sessions of 8 numbers.. 4 spins I'm waiting and next fours spins I bet the 4 spun + the wheel pairs...

jono1167

I'm posting the results of another 500 spins. This test reverted to the usual positive results.

503 spins for 466 units of profit. All flat bet.

Please see the attached graph.


I modified the rules slightly for this test. In past tests, when a repeat came up, I placed a unit on the repeated number as well as a unit on an earlier number. This has now changed.

For the procedure, please follow this example.

First spin: #7. Bet numbers 6-8.
Second spin: #18. Bet numbers 6-8, 17-19.
Third spin: #24. Bet numbers 6-8, 17-19, 23-25.
Fourth spin: #7 (repeat). Bet numbers 5-6-8-9, 17-19, 23-25.(#7 repeated. In the past I would have placed a unit on #7 and #18. This time I am placing the units on the two outside numbers of the repeater. Hopefully the example explains everything).

Breakdown of the data.

503 spins consisted of 89 individual betting strings. A hit, either positive or negative, resulted in the end of the string and the start of a new string.

See totals below.
A hit after 2 spins occurred 4 times (136 units total)
A hit after 3 spins occurred 11 times (330 units total)
A hit after 4 spins occurred 15 times (360 units total)
A hit after 5 spins occurred 17 times (272 units total)
A hit after 6 spins occurred 16 times (96 units total)
A hit after 7 spins occurred 9 times (-36 units total)
A hit after 8 spins occurred 7 times (-140 units total)
A hit after 9 spins occurred 5 times (-180 units total)
A hit after 10 spins occurred 4 times (-216 units total)
A hit after 11 spins occurred 2 times (-148 units total)
A hit after 12 spins occurred 0 times
A hit after 13 spins occurred 0 times
A hit after 14 spins occurred 0 times

Can anyone else see the potential for a progression here? My idea is that you would only begin the progression at level 10. The idea of the progression would not be to go for profit, but just to nullify the losses. If you nullified the losses at levels 10 and 11, you would have walked away 830 units of profit for 503 spins.

In this test, the progression would only have been used on levels 10 and 11. In all my testing (2500 spins) I have only gone to level 12 once. It has never progressed beyond level 12.

Tomorrow morning I will post the combined results of the 2500 spin test series so far. If anyone else has a go at this, please share your results.

Thanks


Irish88

Quote from: Gitano on Feb 26, 04:52 PM 2019

Totally agreed with you Kanam, I 'm testing in statistical way, a method, sessions of 8 numbers.. 4 spins I'm waiting and next fours spins I bet the 4 spun + the wheel pairs...

I am testing the same way Gitano. Let us know how it goes for you. Good luck.

buffalowizard

Quote from: jono1167 on Feb 26, 05:14 PM 2019
I'm posting the results of another 500 spins. This test reverted to the usual positive results.

503 spins for 466 units of profit. All flat bet.

Please see the attached graph.


I modified the rules slightly for this test. In past tests, when a repeat came up, I placed a unit on the repeated number as well as a unit on an earlier number. This has now changed.

For the procedure, please follow this example.

First spin: #7. Bet numbers 6-8.
Second spin: #18. Bet numbers 6-8, 17-19.
Third spin: #24. Bet numbers 6-8, 17-19, 23-25.
Fourth spin: #7 (repeat). Bet numbers 5-6-8-9, 17-19, 23-25.(#7 repeated. In the past I would have placed a unit on #7 and #18. This time I am placing the units on the two outside numbers of the repeater. Hopefully the example explains everything).

Breakdown of the data.

503 spins consisted of 89 individual betting strings. A hit, either positive or negative, resulted in the end of the string and the start of a new string.

See totals below.
A hit after 2 spins occurred 4 times (136 units total)
A hit after 3 spins occurred 11 times (330 units total)
A hit after 4 spins occurred 15 times (360 units total)
A hit after 5 spins occurred 17 times (272 units total)
A hit after 6 spins occurred 16 times (96 units total)
A hit after 7 spins occurred 9 times (-36 units total)
A hit after 8 spins occurred 7 times (-140 units total)
A hit after 9 spins occurred 5 times (-180 units total)
A hit after 10 spins occurred 4 times (-216 units total)
A hit after 11 spins occurred 2 times (-148 units total)
A hit after 12 spins occurred 0 times
A hit after 13 spins occurred 0 times
A hit after 14 spins occurred 0 times

Can anyone else see the potential for a progression here? My idea is that you would only begin the progression at level 10. The idea of the progression would not be to go for profit, but just to nullify the losses. If you nullified the losses at levels 10 and 11, you would have walked away 830 units of profit for 503 spins.

In this test, the progression would only have been used on levels 10 and 11. In all my testing (2500 spins) I have only gone to level 12 once. It has never progressed beyond level 12.

Tomorrow morning I will post the combined results of the 2500 spin test series so far. If anyone else has a go at this, please share your results.

Thanks

Bloody good going Jono, well done. Are you using RS for those tests and graphs?

jono1167

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 26, 06:59 PM 2019
Bloody good going Jono, well done. Are you using RS for those tests and graphs?

Correct Buffalo, I was originally using a roulette app on my phone, however, I have changed to RS. I like the way it creates the graph as you go.

I'll post the combined data from 2500 spins tomorrow morning. Plenty more testing still to do.

Thanks Buffalo

buffalowizard

yESTERDAY TABLE 3, WIESBADEN CASINO.
Testing Jono's way, hope I got it right. Could someone figure out the profit/loss of this?

8                    BET 7,9
       36         7,9,35,1
       36         7,9,34,35,1,2
11                      7,9,34,35,1,2,10,12
       36           7,9,33,34,35,1,2,3,10,12
22                      7,9,33,34,35,1,2,3,10,12,21,23
2                      WIN ON 5TH         
       3             BET 2,4
26                      2,4,25,27
4                      WIN ON 2ND
13                     BET 12,14
   0                  12,14,36,1
       27            12,14,36,1,26,28
       16             12,14,36,1,26,28,15,17
17                         WIN ON 4TH
15                       BET 14,16
       19           14,16,18,20
8                       14,16,18,20,7,9
10                       14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11
17                       14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11,15,19
35                       14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11,15,19,34,36
28                       14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11,15,19,34,36,27,29
       23            14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11,15,19,34,36,27,29,22,24
       3              14,16,18,20,7,9,8,11,15,19,34,36,27,29,22,24,2,4
22                        WIN ON 9TH
22                       BET 21,23
       12            21,23,11,13
10                       21,23,11,13,9,12
20                      21,23,11,13,9,12,19,22
6                      21,23,11,13,9,12,19,22,5,7
22                      WIN ON 5TH
       25           BET 24,26
26                      WIN ON 1ST
35                      BET 34,36
       21           34,36,20,22
20                      WIN ON 2ND
28                      BET 27,29
8                     27,29,7,9
       18          27,29,7,9,17,19
       18          27,29,7,9,17,19,16,20
11                     27,29,7,9,17,19,16,20,10,12
31                     27,29,7,9,17,19,16,20,10,12,30,32
2                     27,29,7,9,17,19,16,20,10,12,30,32,1,3
       27         WIN ON 7TH
24                     BET 23,25
       19         23,25,18,20
       12         23,25,18,20,11,13
2                    23,25,18,20,11,13,1,3
29                    23,25,18,20,11,13,1,3,28,30
--   --   --
       16         23,25,18,20,11,13,1,3,28,30,15,17
       30         WIN ON 6TH
       5           BET 4,6
   0                4,6,36,1
       3           4,6,36,1,2,5
       14         4,6,36,1,2,5,13,15
29                     4,6,36,1,2,5,13,15,28,30
       9            4,6,36,1,2,5,13,15,28,30,8,10
       5            WIN ON 6TH
26                     BET 25,27
       14         25,27,13,15
       21         25,27,13,15,20,22
       32         25,27,13,15,20,22,31,33
29                     25,27,13,15,20,22,31,33,28,30
8                     25,27,13,15,20,22,31,33,28,30,7,9
33                     WIN ON 6TH
       32          BET 31,33
       25         31,33,24,26
       32         31,33,24,26,30,34
--   --   --
13                     31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14
15                     31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14,13,16
20                     31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14,13,16,19,21
2                     31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14,13,16,19,21,1,3
       36          31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14,13,16,19,21,1,3,35,0
       18          31,33,24,26,30,34,12,14,13,16,19,21,1,3,35,0,17,20
13                     WIN ON 9TH
22                     BET 21,23
       1            21,23,0,2
       25          21,23,0,2,24,26
       7             21,23,0,2,24,26,6,8
11                       21,23,0,2,24,26,6,8,10,12
       18            21,23,0,2,24,26,6,8,10,12,17,19
       25            21,23,0,2,24,26,6,8,10,12,17,19,22,26
   0                   WIN ON 7TH
--   --   --
10                        BET 9,11
   0                    9,11,36,1
       27             9,11,36,1,26,28
10                        9,11,36,1,26,28,8,12
       23            9,11,36,1,26,28,8,12,22,24
       23            9,11,36,1,26,28,8,12,22,24,21,25
       25            WIN ON 6TH
11                        BET 10,12
28                        10,12,27,29
13                        10,12,27,29,12,14
31                        10,12,27,29,12,14,30,32
2                        10,12,27,29,12,14,30,32,1,3
--   --   --
22                        10,12,27,29,12,14,30,32,1,3,21,23
       14             WIN ON 6TH
       7               BET 6,8
       1               6,8,0,2
       21             6,8,0,2,20,22
       34             6,8,0,2,20,22,33,35
33                        WIN ON 4TH
8                        BET 7,9
       1               7,9,0,2
--   --   --
6                        7,9,0,2,5,8
26                        7,9,0,2,5,8,25,27
       16            7,9,0,2,5,8,25,27,15,17
31                       7,9,0,2,5,8,25,27,15,17,30,32
8                       WIN ON 6TH
11                       BET 10,12
   0                   10,12,36,1
15                       10,12,36,1,14,16
       32            10,12,36,1,14,16,31,33
2                        10,12,36,1,14,16,31,33,0,3
11                         10,12,36,1,14,16,31,33,0,3,9,13
       7                 10,12,36,1,14,16,31,33,0,3,9,13,6,8
       3                  WIN ON 7TH
       30              BET 29,31
       14              29,31,13,15
   0                     29,31,13,15,36,1
       32              29,31,13,15,36,1,30,33
--   --   --
       14             29,31,13,15,36,1,30,33,13,16
2                        29,31,13,15,36,1,30,33,13,16,0,3
       5               29,31,13,15,36,1,30,33,13,16,0,3,4,6
4                        WIN ON 7TH
       16            BET 15,17
       3              15,17,2,4
6                       15,17,2,4,5,7
33                       15,17,2,4,5,7,32,34
8                       15,17,2,4,5,7,32,34,6,9
26                       15,17,2,4,5,7,32,34,6,9,25,27
       32            WIN ON 6TH
       27            BET 26,28
--   --   --
       7              26,28,6,8
10                        26,28,6,8,9,11
8                       WIN ON 3RD
       21             BET 20,22
26                        20,22,25,27
24                       20,22,25,27,23,26
17                      20,22,25,27,23,26,16,18
       23          WIN ON 4TH
       9              BET 8,10
       27           8,10,26,28
--   --   --
15                      8,10,26,28,14,16
2                     8,10,26,28,14,16,1,3
2                     8,10,26,28,14,16,1,3,0,4
24                     8,10,26,28,14,16,1,3,0,4,23,25
       30          8,10,26,28,14,16,1,3,0,4,23,25,29,31
4                     WIN ON 7TH
       18         BET 17,19
17                    WIN ON 1ST
       30         BET 29,31
13                    29,31,12,14
       23        29,31,12,14,22,24
29                    WIN ON 3RD
       7          BET ON 6,8
   0               6,8,36,1
--   --   --
       36        WIN ON 2ND
6                   BET ON 5,7
       14       5,7,13,15
       5         WIN ON 2ND
13                  BET ON 12,14
2                  12,14,1,3
15                  12,14,1,3,13,16
24                  12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25
       5         12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6
       32       12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6,31,33
17                   12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6,31,33,15,18
17                   12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6,31,33,15,18,11,19
       34        12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6,31,33,15,18,11,19,32,35
       9           12,14,1,3,13,16,23,25,4,6,31,33,15,18,11,19,32,35,8,10
       14         WIN ON 10TH
       25         BET ON 24,26
17                    24,26,16,18
--   --   --
       1          24,26,16,18,0,2
22                   24,26,16,18,0,2,21,23
       14        24,26,16,18,0,2,21,23,13,15
   0               WIN ON 5TH
35                   BET ON 34,36
33                   34,36,32,35
22                   34,36,32,35,21,23
29                  34,36,32,35,21,23,28,30
33                   34,36,32,35,21,23,28,30,31,0
26                   34,36,32,35,21,23,28,30,31,0,25,27
15                  34,36,32,35,21,23,28,30,31,0,25,27,14,16
       34        WIN ON 7TH
--   --   --
       30        BET ON 29,31
   0               29,31,36,1
       18        29,31,36,1,17,19
28                   29,31,36,1,17,19,27,30
       12        29,31,36,1,17,19,27,30,11,13
       23        29,31,36,1,17,19,27,30,11,13,22,24
       27        WIN ON 6TH
15                   BET ON 14,16
       14       WIN ON 1ST
   0               BET ON 36,1
8                   36,1,7,9
       5          36,1,7,9,4,6
17                   36,1,7,9,4,6,16,18
--   --   --
10                   36,1,7,9,4,6,16,18,9,11
22                   36,1,7,9,4,6,16,18,9,11,21,23
15                   36,1,7,9,4,6,16,18,9,11,21,23,14,17
       12       36,1,7,9,4,6,16,18,9,11,21,23,14,17,10,13
       14       WIN ON 8TH
       27        BET ON 26,28
22                   26,28,21,23
29                    26,28,21,23,27,30
       30        WIN ON 3RD
   0               BET ON 36,1
13                   36,1,12,14
8                   36,1,12,14,7,9
       1          WIN ON 3RD
4                   BET ON 3,5
       18        3,5,17,19
--   --   --
17                   WIN ON 2ND
22                   BET ON 21,23
2                   21,23,1,3
17                   21,23,1,3,16,18
       30        21,23,1,3,16,18,29,31
       7          21,23,1,3,16,18,29,31,6,8
       16         WIN ON 5TH
       14        BET ON 13,15
33                    13,15,32,34
       3          13,15,32,34,2,4
13                    WIN ON 3RD
22                   BET ON 21,23
       25       21,23,24,26 
13                   21,23,24,26,12,14
       34       21,23,24,26,12,14,33,35
--   --   --
       23        WIN ON 4TH
24                    BET ON 23,25
       19         23,25,18,20
24                    23,25,18,20,22,26
       21         23,25,18,20,22,26,20,24
20                    WIN ON 4TH
       30        BET ON 29,31
22                   29,31,21,23
28                   29,31,21,23,27,30
       32       29,31,21,23,27,30,31,33
   0               29,31,21,23,27,30,31,33,36,1
   0               29,31,21,23,27,30,31,33,36,1,35,2
2                  WIN ON 6TH
       3         BET ON 2,4
29                  2,4,28,30
--   --   --
6                  2,4,28,30,5,7
       30       WIN ON 3RD
       16      BET ON 15,17
       7        15,17,6,8
       21      15,17,6,8,20,22
6                  WIN ON 3RD
24                 BET ON 23,25
22                  23,25,21,24
6                  23,25,21,24,5,7
       32       23,25,21,24,5,7,31,33
33                 WIN ON 4TH
       9        BET ON 8,10
17                 8,10,16,18
35                 8,10,16,18,34,36
17                8,10,16,18,34,36,15,19
10                 WIN ON 4TH
       25      BET ON 24,26
33                 24,26,32,34
       32       WIN ON 2ND
--   --   --
   0              BET ON 36,1
       36        WIN ON 1ST
8                   BET ON 7,9
       19        7,9,18,20
15                   7,9,18,20,14,16
       1          7,9,18,20,14,16,0,2
       9          WIN ON 4TH
       18        BET ON 17,19
   0               17,19,36,1
17                   WIN ON 2ND
33                   BET ON 32,34
       16        32,34,15,17
33                   32,34,15,17,31,35
       25       32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26
4                   32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5
--   --   -- 
       36        32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0
       7          32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0,6,8
11                   32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0,6,8,10,12
       18        32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0,6,8,10,12,16,19
       30        32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0,6,8,10,12,16,19,29,36
       30        32,34,15,17,31,35,24,26,3,5,33,0,6,8,10,12,16,19,29,36,28,1
       34       WIN ON 11TH
       7          BET ON 6,8
13                   6,8,12,14
       23        6,8,12,14,22,24
13                   6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15
       9         6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10
       30       6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10,29,31
13                  6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10,29,31,9,15
20                  6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10,29,31,9,15,19,21
--   --   --
       30       6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10,29,31,9,15,19,21,28,32
2                   6,8,12,14,22,24,11,15,7,10,29,31,9,15,19,21,28,32,1,3
22                   WIN ON 10TH
11                   BET ON 10,12
10                   WIN ON 1ST
       23         BET ON 22,24
10                    22,24,9,11
   0                22,24,9,11,36,1
--   --   --
       27         22,24,9,11,36,1,26,28
2                    22,24,9,11,36,1,26,28,1,3
       7          22,24,9,11,36,1,26,28,1,3,6,8
6                   WIN ON 6TH
8                   BET ON 7,9
35                    7,9,34,36
15                   7,9,34,36,14,16
11                    7,9,34,36,14,16,10,12
       14         WIN ON 4TH
       27         BET ON 26,28
   0                26,28,36,1
       21        26,28,36,1,20,22
       21        26,28,36,1,20,22,19,23
       9          26,28,36,1,20,22,19,23,8,10
26                   WIN ON 5TH
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jono1167

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 26, 07:50 PM 20198                    BET 7,9

Well done Buffalo - I had you down for about 102 units of profit.

688 units profit minus 586 units loss = 102 units.

Roughly 300 spins and 100 units profit sounds correct.


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