Even Chances Up and Downer

[Nathanael]

Rob,

Very hard for me to understand.

Can someone who knows it good, help to understand?

Nate

[Robeenhuut]

Rob,

Very hard for me to understand.

Can someone who knows it good, help to understand?

Nate

Hello Nate

Go through my previous posts.  There is a file attached n i one of my previous posts i gave a short example of betting sequence.  I cant make it more clear i think.

Regards

[vladir]

I said in a previous post that betting pattern would not matter, but it does (a bit).


First of all, if you always bet the same pattern, you lose long term. Another thing to consider is that "rigid" patterns seem to have longer losing streaks- like always betting one colour -  then patterns that are more dynamic (e.g. follow the last). I have no proof of this being true, except mere observation of spin results.

Also, in this case, I think this progression will kill you eventually 2-4-8- 16.....


You know, I have thinked a lot about this. If we where to flat bet with 1 unit any EC pattern, after 1000 spins, you would have roughly 9730 units in the end (considering house edge of 2,7%). This is because we lose about 52% of the time and win 48%.

The problem with martingale progressions is that they try to recover  all the previous last bets and incluede 1 unit profit. This is, I think, wrong aproach. What we need is a possitive balance in the end of each mini-session. This is accomplished easily with lower progressions that try only to win more on a winning bet then on a losing bet, not an immediate profit for the session.


An idea I had today is that it would be AWSOME to have a tracker for this. I would love to have a tracker of each R/B, O/E, H/L pattern bettings (with Follow the last, Oposite the last, Follow previous of the last, Oposite previous of the last, and each of the ECs(always Red, or always Black). A tracker with statistics for lets say last /20 spins /50 spins /100 spins, so we could play virtually all the ECs, all the patterns at the same time and then , after a high % of losses is reached in one of the patterns, we could play a low progression on the expected wins. Don't confuse this with the gamblers falacy. I'm not saying any specific number is due, or that REDS or BLACKS are due, what I'm saying is that this events must happen more or less 50% of the time to ensure randomness. They do not represent exact triggers and losses would happen, but in the long run, it shoudl be profitable...and we can extend a session for as long as we need (if we have a bankroll for that of course).

I play like this:

1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-5-6-6-6....

Whenever I lose, I go rigth one step. When I win, I continue betting the same until I'm in profit or have had 3 wins in a row, and in this case I evaluate to see where in the progression I should replace my bets, in order just to recover my initial balance if I win a 4th time. (winnig 3-4 times in a row after a long losing strake happens a lot....).

[Robeenhuut]

I said in a previous post that betting pattern would not matter, but it does (a bit).


First of all, if you always bet the same pattern, you lose long term. Another thing to consider is that "rigid" patterns seem to have longer losing streaks- like always betting one colour -  then patterns that are more dynamic (e.g. follow the last). I have no proof of this being true, except mere observation of spin results.

Also, in this case, I think this progression will kill you eventually 2-4-8- 16.....


You know, I have thinked a lot about this. If we where to flat bet with 1 unit any EC pattern, after 1000 spins, you would have roughly 9730 units in the end (considering house edge of 2,7%). This is because we lose about 52% of the time and win 48%.

The problem with martingale progressions is that they try to recover  all the previous last bets and incluede 1 unit profit. This is, I think, wrong aproach. What we need is a possitive balance in the end of each mini-session. This is accomplished easily with lower progressions that try only to win more on a winning bet then on a losing bet, not an immediate profit for the session.


An idea I had today is that it would be AWSOME to have a tracker for this. I would love to have a tracker of each R/B, O/E, H/L pattern bettings (with Follow the last, Oposite the last, Follow previous of the last, Oposite previous of the last, and each of the ECs(always Red, or always Black). A tracker with statistics for lets say last /20 spins /50 spins /100 spins, so we could play virtually all the ECs, all the patterns at the same time and then , after a high % of losses is reached in one of the patterns, we could play a low progression on the expected wins. Don't confuse this with the gamblers falacy. I'm not saying any specific number is due, or that REDS or BLACKS are due, what I'm saying is that this events must happen more or less 50% of the time to ensure randomness. They do not represent exact triggers and losses would happen, but in the long run, it shoudl be profitable...and we can extend a session for as long as we need (if we have a bankroll for that of course).

I play like this:

1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-5-6-6-6....

Whenever I lose, I go rigth one step. When I win, I continue betting the same until I'm in profit or have had 3 wins in a row, and in this case I evaluate to see where in the progression I should replace my bets, in order just to recover my initial balance if I win a 4th time. (winnig 3-4 times in a row after a long losing strake happens a lot....).

Hello Vladir

U r right. But basically main objective here is 2 pull yrself bk 2 yr highest level u were at. U can be flexible here with bets. U can aim 2 recover f u win 2 out of 3 next bets.
F u pull bk go 2 initial level.  I play 1 euro. I always bet on 3 repeats no matter what happened b4.  This way u r immune 2 ba streaks. Few days ago i lost 9 consecutive bets but pulled bk into positive territory.

Regards

[vladir]

Its very difficult 2 test it in d long run because of varying betting sequence.  How long were d sequences of losses?  Did u test it on RNG?. Use real numbers from any online casino live wheel. 

And every system loses some time 

Regards

Sorry that I didnt answer this specific questions before. The test I made was with some samples with single 0 wheel that I downloaded from here some time ago (about 700.00, from wich I use only the first 300.000 usually, and it's already too much for my computer...lol).

I didnt analyzed the sequences of losses.

In this test, I used the initial suggestions of playing and I didn't change the betting pattern. I tried betting always Red or always Black.

[Robeenhuut]

Sorry that I didn't answer this specific questions before. The test I made was with some samples with single 0 wheel that I downloaded from here some time ago (about 700.00, from wich I use only the first 300.000 usually, and it's already too much for my computer...LoL).

I didn't analyzed the sequences of losses.

In this test, I used the initial suggestions of playing and I didn't change the betting pattern. I tried betting always Red or always Black.

Hello Vladir

Thx 4 yr input here. This is a dynamic bet. Difficult 2 code. i usually follow d color 4 up 2 3 or 4 times then switch.  But not always. When u see streaks forming u ride them.
With proper MM u will win here most of d time. Put stop loss at relatively low figure n recover in d next session.

Regards