Thanks to BillTheFish a close friend of mine for making this tracker! It cost me a bit but it was well worth it! It is a simple flash application that tracks each split as you click it. Recent splits are highlighted and furthest are not. It cannot get any simpler! Thanks would be highly appreciated.
Enjoy this program and make some damn money! I know I am! :)
Wowie, many thanks Droganson.
(And of course, Billy! :) )
Finally somebody that made a tracker for it :thumbsup:
Keeping track of it with pen & paper was like h*ll :xd:
I lack at programming otherwise i would made it myself, the only thing that i would change is that the flash shows the last / furthest 9 in 1 row instaed on the board with the numbers.
But hey, thats what i should do :D
Anyway, thanks very much for al your efforts :thumbsup:
Stephan
thank from the south of France billy the fish
Quote from: Droganson on Aug 25, 10:11 PM 2012
Thanks to BillTheFish a close friend of mine for making this tracker! It cost me a bit but it was well worth it! It is a simple flash application that tracks each split as you click it. Recent splits are highlighted and furthest are not. It cannot get any simpler! Thanks would be highly appreciated.
Enjoy this program and make some darn money! I know I am! :)
Good stuff Drogan. Thanks. The .dgt file for RX posted here few days ago did not work properly.
A BIG thanks Droganson .... very nice !!!
Unfortunately it does not work properly all the time. After it initially displays the last 9 hit after a few repeat hits on them it removes the furthest hit split although no new split has been hit.
Thanks anyway for the effort guys but we need some tool that would actually display the next bet in terms of showing 9 splits numbers to bet on. The ideal scenario would be .dgt file like the one posted before. I tried to fix it but i don't have a necessary skill. ;D
Big Thanks from the UK (Billthefish) :thumbsup:
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 26, 12:41 AM 2012
Unfortunately it does not work properly all the time. After it initially displays the last 9 hit after a few repeat hits on them it removes the furthest hit split although no new split has been hit.
I can't help smiling at that, given that Droganson is winning using the tracker.
If someone will give me a CLEAR set of instructions of how to play the system, together with an example of actual play, then I'll write a tracker for it. I'd do this more often but it's just a nightmare trying to understand most posted systems, the problem half the time is deciding which of the 973 tweaks is the final version. ::)
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 26, 12:41 AM 2012
The ideal scenario would be .dgt file like the one posted before. I tried to fix it but i don't have a necessary skill. ;D
Show me where it is and WHEN i have time i will have a look. Although im mostly not interested as bayes said, once i fix it then there is gonna be 9000 tweaks and versions.
Quote from: Juiced91 on Aug 26, 05:02 AM 2012
Show me where it is and WHEN i have time i will have a look. Although I'm mostly not interested as bayes said, once i fix it then there is gonna be 9000 tweaks and versions.
system "Rolling Splits Two Uncles"
method "main"
begin
While Starting a New Session
begin
set flag "virtual mode" True
set flag "last or furthest" False // last = true / furthest = false
copy List [split(1-4),split(2-5),split(3-6),split(7-10),split(8-11),split(9-12),split(13-16),split(14-17),split(15-18),split(19-22),split(20-23),split(21-24),split(25-28),split(26-29),split(27-30),split(31-34),split(32-35),split(33-36)] to record "last split" layout
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40] to Record "unit size" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle wins" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle counter" Data
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
While on Each Spin
begin
Call "organize splits"
if Flag "virtual mode" False
begin
Call "check win"
Call "update cycle"
Call "place bets"
end
end
end
// ORGANIZES SPLITS THAT APPEAR
// "furthest splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "last splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "virtual mode" flag - set to false when bet selection is ready
method "organize splits"
begin
// check to see which split has been hit
If Split(1-4) hit 1
begin
Put 1 to Record "last split" Layout index
end
if Split(2-5) hit 1
begin
put 2 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(3-6) hit 1
begin
put 3 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(7-10) hit 1
begin
put 4 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(8-11) hit 1
begin
put 5 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(9-12) hit 1
begin
put 6 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(13-16) hit 1
begin
put 7 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(14-17) hit 1
begin
put 8 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(15-18) hit 1
begin
put 9 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(19-22) hit 1
begin
put 10 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(20-23) hit 1
begin
put 11 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(21-24) hit 1
begin
put 12 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(25-28) hit 1
begin
put 13 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(26-29) hit 1
begin
put 14 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(27-30) hit 1
begin
put 15 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(31-34) hit 1
begin
put 16 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(32-35) hit 1
begin
put 17 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(33-36) hit 1
begin
put 18 to Record "last split" layout index
end
// if the split hasn't been hit already, add it to the end
if Record "last split" Layout is not found in Record "split list" Layout
begin
Set Max Record "split list" Layout index
Add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
copy Record "last split" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
end
// if already in list find it, remove it and append it to the end
else
begin
put 0 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout = Record "last split" Layout
begin
add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
end
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "clear split" Layout index
set max to Record "split list" Layout index
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "last index" Layout index
clear Record "final splits" Layout
put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
if Record "split list" Layout index = Record "clear split" Layout index
begin
end
else
begin
copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
end
Put 100% Record "clear split" Layout index on Record "split list" Layout index
Copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout
put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
end
// to indicate the bet selection is ready
if Record "last index" Layout index = 18
begin
set flag "virtual mode" False
// make 2 layouts to place bets against
Put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
Put 10 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 18
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end
end
method "check win"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin
end
else
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" True
begin
set flag "last or furthest" False
end
else
begin
set flag "last or furthest" True
end
end
end
method "place bets"
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" False
begin
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
loop until Record "furthest splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
end
else
begin
put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
loop until Record "last splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end
end
method "update cycle"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
else
begin
end
if Record "cycle counter" Data index >= 8
begin
if Record "cycle wins" Data index > 4
begin
if Record "unit size" Data index not = 1
begin
subtract 1 from Record "unit size" Data index
end
end
if Record "cycle wins" Data index < 4
begin
add 1 to Record "unit size" Data index
end
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
Add 1 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
end
Its the code
Regards
in fact its easy, start spinning till you get 9 unique splits, then you start betting on these 9 till a loss.
on loss you play the furthest 9 splits.
the split were you lost with counts as a new one for the last set splits.
progression is evaluated after every 5 spins; +1 unit if you lower then your previous high balance, -1 unit if your higher then your last balance.
so to show an example.
these are my last new splits
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 bet these
8 falls, win
6 falls, win
10 falls , loss
You put the 10 split behind the last 9 because it was the last new one
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
and erase the first one fallen (split 1)
so our new last plits become
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
meaning that our furthest 9 splits are
1 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 play these till loss and switch to last 9 again, over and over again.
Thanks Stepkevh,
I'll give it a while to see if someone comes along and says "no, that's not correct!". :D Maybe FLAT will show up to confirm it.
So FLAT do you still play it on airball? We got it coded in an other thread but it was not done properly. At least everybody is clear on the rules now except what to do after a win in a cycle of 5 bets especially at a higher level. I guess it would depend on your BR and your balance. If you lower your unit bet by more than 1 unit you may not capitalize on a potential winning streak. Also maybe putting a limit on your progression could be an idea. If you bet on 9u level which we saw few times in excel files 5 consecutive losses will pull you down 400u.
But i guess there is no best way to play it in all situations
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---Have explained several times how to play after level 5,6,7,8,9,.....Ido calculate by head...but there
is a formula how come to next bet.........expl;you won on level 9/360- at that time divide 360 by 9=
40....now look a new score after 360 - .......let say its now 240....divide 240 by 40 and you got 6.......that is your new bet......when you do those things always round up to the nearest.
Hope it helps.
Stef got it right except the part about adjusting the progression ;D
well, thats something i overlooked :D
but i dont understand it so good, whats the 360- and the 240 ???
think i got it, at stake lvl 9 he has a balance of -360, then he divides it, thats 40.
then he looks to his last high balance, it was 240, that didvided by 40 makes a new stake of 6
right ??
Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 26, 05:48 AM 2012
well, that's something i overlooked :D
but i don't understand it so good, what's the 360- and the 240 ???
Its just for illustration purposes. 360 is just the example of a win in 5 spin cycle betting 9u. Its not an actual figure. Its done so our base unit bet does not go too high.
Glad you are all enjoying it and it is not a perfect software unfortunately which is why I reset it after every session. Do not play up to 420 or 666 spins or it will scare the crap out of you. (You have been warned) Lol.
I play to win 10% of my br with every session. How is everyone else faring?
I haven't tried the tracker, does it only tell you WHERE to place your bets? (not how much to bet)
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 26, 06:15 AM 2012
Its just for illustration purposes. 360 is just the example of a win in 5 spin cycle betting 9u. Its not an actual figure. Its done so our base unit bet does not go too high.
---Just seen this.Very nice...there is something else haven't mention earlier;
For these more agressive players cycle 3,5,7 recomm.--for these slow and steady
9,11,13 and up if wish,always dispair.
Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 26, 05:51 AM 2012
think i got it, at stake lvl 9 he has a balance of -360, then he divides it, that's 40.
then he looks to his last high balance, it was 240, that didvided by 40 makes a new stake of 6
right ??
---you could easily do it by percentage also.
--And now about situations like this;
--Sometimes you will alternate up and down for 30-40 spins,
and you might find after coming to level one in minus.
Therefore at such situations your starting unit shall be two
untill you even or in new plus,then restart from one.
Not often but it happens.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 26, 05:45 AM 2012
So FLAT do you still play it on airball? We got it coded in an other thread but it was not done properly. At least everybody is clear on the rules now except what to do after a win in a cycle of 5 bets especially at a higher level. I guess it would depend on your BR and your balance. If you lower your unit bet by more than 1 unit you may not capitalize on a potential winning streak. Also maybe putting a limit on your progression could be an idea. If you bet on 9u level which we saw few times in excel files 5 consecutive losses will pull you down 400u.
But i guess there is no best way to play it in all situations
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[/quote
---Have explained several times how to play after level 5,6,7,8,9,.....Ido calculate by head...but there
is a formula how come to next bet.........expl;you won on level 9/360- at that time divide 360 by 9=
40....now look a new score after 360 - .......let say its now 240....divide 240 by 40 and you got 6.......that is your new bet......when you do those things always round up to the nearest.
Hope it helps.
Stef got it right except the part about adjusting the progression ;D
--I do play it on daily basis...put 1000 un. in the machine/mind you thats about 140 euros in my
cur./to win about 15/20 % for my daily needs.Haven't lost as yet.....Why ????? couse I play here
9 last in continuation/without furthers/as this thing repeats constantly.Am putting all my play in
excel and will post one day,but after several thousands spins/want Ego to see it as he said that
he could estimae VB after observing it....let see/----btw-this is Alfastreet airball machine,older type.
I am curious to know why you would ever click the same number twice? If you're betting "new" blue, and you win--just join the NoClickum tribe and keep on betting.
Am I missing something?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 26, 02:33 PM 2012
I am curious to know why you would ever click the same number twice? If you're betting "new" blue, and you win--just join the NoClickum tribe and keep on betting.
Am I missing something?
Sam
---Me wouldn't know Sam,as to me it is from other world....don't grasp
anything,but needn't anyhow couse don't play online.
FLATman
I'm hurt over this tracker. It makes my "TwoCat Mr. FLAT Redneck Nine-Split Tracker" obsolete.
I see no need to click twice! The new is still new if one of them was your winner. They can't get any "newer"! :o
Sam
You make a valid point, TWOCATSAM! However, clicking ones that have already hit allows the tracker to keep track of missed ones as well so it knows which one is going to become furthest if you get my drift unless that doesn't really matter?
@ Robeenhuut ,
thanks for the hard work with the RX code. Impressive :thumbsup:
I have noticed that allot of times it starts the first bet at around 80 spins !!
When I do manual tracking, I dint have to wait so long....
There is a attached file with the numbers from Berlin 2012 July 2nd where it happens and , to my surprise it just goes down. to a max of -1188.
I cant believe that this is just going down ?!?
@ Flat ,
maybe you could have a look, pleeeeease :D
Ray 8)
i think what code is incorect. As said someone in another theard.
Quote from: rayhd63 on Aug 26, 05:31 PM 2012
@ Robeenhuut ,
thanks for the hard work with the RX code. Impressive :thumbsup:
I have noticed that allot of times it starts the first bet at around 80 spins !!
When I do manual tracking, I dint have to wait so long....
There is a attached file with the numbers from Berlin 2012 July 2nd where it happens and , to my surprise it just goes down. to a max of -1188.
I can't believe that this is just going down ?!?
@ Flat ,
maybe you could have a look, pleeeeease :D
Ray 8)
yes your right !!! I thought robeenhuut hasmade the code......
Ok , at last its not on flats system !! Phew....
Ray
Sam
If you do it manually than its important to record all repeat hits in last hit spins and erase furthest repeat hits so you always have 9. And if the tracker malfunctions if you hit repeaters than it will probably malfunction in other cases. This is what i noticed and it bothers me. It would have only limited use for me anyway because it does not display any splits numbers. ;D
And Ray i tried to fix RX code but could only change it to go in 5 cycles and apparently there is still a bug if you get repeat hits on the same split. It starts apparently after all 18 split hit which for testing should not matter and uses 1/-1 progression. And betting limit is 40u.
Regards
Rob
Well, I'm totally lost! Are you talking about the one made by "Bill the Fish"? Or is there another one?
"And if the tracker malfunctions if you hit repeaters".........
What do you mean, "hit repeaters"?
Does this thing calculate the progression?
I am so lost! There are no buttons on the one I have except "spin" and "reset". Don't even know why there is a wheel to spin.
......so lost.......
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 27, 08:53 AM 2012
Rob
Well, I'm totally lost! Are you talking about the one made by "Bill the Fish"? Or is there another one?
"And if the tracker malfunctions if you hit repeaters".........
What do you mean, "hit repeaters"?
Does this thing calculate the progression?
I am so lost! There are no buttons on the one I have except "spin" and "reset". Don't even know why there is a wheel to spin.
......so lost.......
Sam
Sam
By repeaters i meant repeat hits on 9 last splits. And comment addressed to Ray was about .dgt file for Rx posted by a new member which contains some errors. Anyway apparently Flat plays it now betting only 9 last splits in cycles of 3 on airball. ;D
Thanks!
Finally found how to do it and finished an excel tracker for the last 9 splits :smile:
In the green cells you can change the progression,
"prog after loss" obvious how many units + after loss
"prog after win" how many units - after win
also a stop win and stop loss
and the sheet resets the progr automaticly to 1 if you get a new high or break even.
there's a manual version for real spins and the rng for testing quickly
Stephan
Thanks for the download FIAT :)
Won 806 units with this last weekend waiting for it to take a dive after F_LAT's recommended stop at +150. Interestingly enough, it didn't. Boring?? You bet. Lots of hours waiting for it to tank?? You bet.
Here's good question ..... What do we do when these things don't tank on us??? Sorry to be so optimistic .....
Quote from: Wally Gator on Sep 13, 07:39 PM 2012
Won 806 units with this last weekend waiting for it to take a dive after F_LAT's recommended stop at +150. Interestingly enough, it didn't. Boring?? You bet. Lots of hours waiting for it to tank?? You bet.
Here's good question ..... What do we do when these things don't tank on us??? Sorry to be so optimistic .....
Continue playing it ;D Flat reported just one loss after 6 months of heavy playing and you also had success with it. Risking 1000+ u to make 100+ u its not such a bad idea. Stephan made the tracker for it but the progression is different. I havent played it for real yet. Anybody else?
Yes its a diff progr but it can be changed by what you want :D
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 14, 01:26 AM 2012
Yes its a diff progr but it can be changed by what you want :D
I just noticed that it also tracks 9 last splits. And u can not change it to work in cycles of spins :D
that was the tracker Flat asked for, to bet only on the last 9 splits because he also had succes with it.
To make the sheet show the alternating last/furtest splits i think there getting macros involved and thats something i cant do.
It was already a hard nut to crack for always showing the last 9 :)
And for the cycles of spins, Flat didnt asked for it as far as i know.
Maybe i will try to change it, if i find some time :D
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 14, 01:45 AM 2012
that was the tracker Flat asked for, to bet only on the last 9 splits because he also had success with it.
To make the sheet show the alternating last/furtest splits i think there getting macros involved and that's something i can't do.
It was already a hard nut to crack for always showing the last 9 :)
And for the cycles of spins, Flat didn't asked for it as far as i know.
Maybe i will try to change it, if i find some time :D
Thanks Stef anyway for your effort. ;D
No prob,
always glad that i can help "the group" :D
Sorry guys. I just realized I posted this in the wrong subject. I thought this was the follow the last 5 finales post. That's what I was playing. Age is creeping up on me ......
Quote from: Wally Gator on Sep 13, 07:39 PM 2012
Won 806 units with this last weekend waiting for it to take a dive after F_LAT's recommended stop at +150.
Wally Gator in your season of 806 won what was your largest drawdown and number of continous losses?
Many Thanks Koolkat
In that particular session (doesn't happen all the time), I was down a max of 46 units then made the +150. I always play this past the 150 and then if I get to +200 I won't go below that. In this case, there were simply tremendous streaks going on. Once I was above 300 I changed unit size. Then the streaks began to fade when I was over 800 and I couldn't get to 900 so I stopped at 806 as the next bet would have taken me below 800. Just happened to be a great night with a great strategy. Don't fool yourself, though, you need a bankroll to play this if you're going to play it consistently.