I think this is abnormal! Opinions?

[Stepkevh]

I'm gonna follow this closely 

and on what do you base your bet ?

i mean if what comes in, then on what do you bet ?

ex. if doz3 comes in then you bet on 1 & 2 (flat 1-1)
      if it wins, you stay with doz 1 & 2 ?
      if it loses you bet 1u on doz3 ?

Stephan 

[Master_of_pockets]

2.600 spins +72

[Master_of_pockets]

2.700 +75

[Master_of_pockets]

2.800 = +55 Droped by 20 chips (there was a stage that it was +88)

Sorry mistake ... 2.800= +59 ( it dropped 16 chips)

[Master_of_pockets]

3.000 spins +44 ( it dropes a lot on the last spins)

So math guys what is the advantage in this result?

Ps. let me tell you that the bet selection was just voodoo and no logic behind it.

I think is close to +6%

[Ralph]

Voodoo works sometimes, When you are lucky,go for it, parlay winnings. Did some today on a split, and 1 out of 4 hit. The window is short, retreat in time.

[Bayes]

z-score is still about the same - 2.65. Very slight increase but it doesn't mean much.

By the way, you might find this software useful - link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1784.0

[Robeenhuut]

Sample size is still too small and MOP you preached the need for more testing.
You just got lucky. Now move to other bet selection and hope for similar result.
Do not push it for too long.

[Master_of_pockets]

Thanks Bayes I already have ur cool software.
So u mean that this result doesn t mean anything?

Rob changing the bet selections isn t making any good....because u never know when a bet selection will start curving down or up.

Anyway I ll add or remove some things to the bet selection and we will see what it is capable of doing in the next 3000 spins.

[Bayes]

MOP,

I don't know whether you remember No. 6 from the VLS forum? he did a lot of testing using the Marigny methods and was up to over 4 STD over 100,000 bets. Eventually it dropped, but it just goes to show that some bet selections are better than others, at least for a while. 

The problem is that sooner or later, if you do enough testing of systems, you'll find something that SEEMS to be really good.

You say that changing the bet selections doesn't help, but if one isn't working, isn't it better to change to one with a higher probability of not losing? Assume that all bet selections have their losing and winning runs, (which is mathematically TRUE) a bet selection that is on a downswing is more likely to either break even or move into an upswing rather than repeat another downswing immediately, that's the simple idea behind the 3 STD trigger for the Marigny methods.

[albertojonas]

2300 spins +92 chips.(there was a stage that went to +98 chips)

I havet tested UNLIMITED flat bet selections in my life....This has never happened!

[Ralph]

98 diff in EC on 2300 spins thats not unussual. The trick in follow an EC is just to chose the best, which is for most of the time will be one. Its goes for all bets. Betting 2/3 looks as you will have better chans you win 2/3, but I think this is one of the hardest. A good streak give one out of two, and a bad takes 2 out.

The thing will show, if it rise or goes down permanent after some more 1000 spins.

I never stick with a method so long its crash1

[Master_of_pockets]

Bayes when u include in the bet selection the STD is a dif animal.

In my testing it was every spin bet and NO probability(std-maths) in....
3.000 pure bets and not spins.
This is why its very unusual....

And NO by changing the bets You can t take any advantage because as i said u never know when 1 bet will be favoured or not....so by changing is exactly the same thing-risk.Tunferuk(or something like this) agrees on that.

The 2.7% says that in 3.000 spins my bet would have lose approx. 145 chips...and instead of this its +44.

I don't support my bet..because I need to test more and also make some modif. to see if it can become stringer...maybe it is like all bet selections-losers....but what i say is that in 3000 bets the result is extraordinary....

[Ralph]

I was playing a similar or may be the equal method, my be I got it from you. A modification on a two dozen bet. It went very good, and I think I got better than you now. After a while things become worse. Did not lose much of the winnings because I stopped.  I have today wonderful winnings with new or old methods, but they will not stay so. Some stays very long, "Ernahrungssysteme" which win or lose a few chips, which just target 2/3 bets can stay long, but never give much during the time.

[catalyst]

this is not new. this system has been tested in 'stone age' by VLS himself and me! look at the thread 'VLSMarch3 and Breakeven point' --you will be amazed!