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Title: Martingale
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 30, 04:48 PM 2015
The martingale is a fast way to lose. Has anyone tried to use it to your advantage by letting your bet ride?

I've tried before using 5 dollar bets, but chicken out when it builds up to around 60 and I just take my win.

Has anyone let you bet parlay to the table max?
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 05:19 PM 2015
On paper it looks good

Hearing it it sounds good

We often hear of martingale clearing you out and hitting max table limit

But what if, what if we can ride the wins with a positive progression martingale and hit the max limit through wins not losses

Yes yes. A positive progression martingale. We can dream cant we?

Would be nice

Now you got me thinking. I never think of positive progressions

Flat bet then on a win double if win again double again
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 30, 06:04 PM 2015
Yes, so hard to put that huge pile of money out on the same color that just hit 6 times in a row.

The huge difference is that instead of winning your min bet, you win double your last bet.

Who has the nerve to ride it all the way the way to the top?
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 30, 06:09 PM 2015
guetting progression?
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: thelaw on Sep 30, 06:09 PM 2015
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Sep 30, 06:04 PM 2015
Yes, so hard to put that huge pile of money out on the same color that just hit 6 times in a row.

The huge difference is that instead of winning your min bet, you win double your last bet.

Who has the nerve to ride it all the way the way to the top?

Check out the book "Thirteen against the bank".

Some say it's pure fiction, others claim it's partially true.

Same idea of using house money to eventually break the bank............ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 30, 07:39 PM 2015
There is a story out there about an Asian man who would arrive as the casino
opened to play his system.  (I'm assuming the wheel had just finished maintenance). 

He would wait for an even chance to miss five consecutive times and bet the cold even chance
with a negative progression of 1,2,4,8,16,32 (stop) except he used $100.00 as his base bet.

*So he had 6300.00 on him as a bankroll. 

This was his only session daily and he would leave 100.00 richer. 
He would come 300 days/year with this strategy and made $30,000/year.

I don't know how practical this is but it is something to think about imo.



Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: ati on Oct 01, 02:40 AM 2015
I tried it many times, but unfortunately it won't make us long term winners. Even though 5-6 EC repeats happen quite often, it's still too rare to be profitable.
You have to bet every spin, if you don't wanna miss the long series, and while you're chasing the repeats, you will lose more than what you will win with the positive marty.

The first graph is a five step positive marty betting always on the last color, and reset after every loss.

The second one is what Proof wrote, wait for a repeat of five, then bet the opposite with a 6 level marty. As you can see that story can be true, but it's all about luck. 300 units win is reached after about 1800 spins. With $100 units, that would be $30k profit. Can be done, probably many people have done it, but they were just lucky. It could easily go south at any time.
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: Kattila on Oct 01, 08:53 AM 2015
Some time ago i invented this negative progressions (martingale) on numbers and streets, never tested or played them .
I prefer stay flat if possible or use possitive progressions. Se  excel file ( hoja 1 , hoja 2).
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: ego on Oct 01, 09:50 AM 2015
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 30, 07:39 PM 2015
There is a story out there about an Asian man who would arrive as the casino
opened to play his system.  (I'm assuming the wheel had just finished maintenance). 

He would wait for an even chance to miss five consecutive times and bet the cold even chance
with a negative progression of 1,2,4,8,16,32 (stop) except he used $100.00 as his base bet.

*So he had 6300.00 on him as a bankroll. 

This was his only session daily and he would leave 100.00 richer. 
He would come 300 days/year with this strategy and made $30,000/year.

I don't know how practical this is but it is something to think about imo.

Cool story ...
Title: Re: Martingale
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 01, 11:54 AM 2015
The second one is what Proof wrote, wait for a repeat of five, then bet the opposite with a 6 level marty. As you can see that story can be true, but it's all about luck. 300 units win is reached after about 1800 spins. With $100 units, that would be $30k profit. Can be done, probably many people have done it, but they were just lucky. It could easily go south at any time--Ati

My theory is when a roulette wheel is newly balanced after maintenance
it is far less likely to have a significant even chance disparity then normally.