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Solve this, solve the HG.

Started by daveylibra, May 17, 02:42 PM 2018

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Badger

Does that mean that if you could have a win rate of 40/100 spins or greater, that you would always
close your session a winner?

Would that be a HG?
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

daveylibra

Sure. But consider the fact that your bets might climb very high.
Also, notice the equation (drawdown+1)/remaining wins expected does not factor in the value remaining spins left.

My idea is that we break a session into "chunks" of x number of remaining spins left, and this value would be our reset trigger.
We need the optimum values for x and y.

jekhb76

Quote from: Badger on May 20, 08:36 AM 2018
Does that mean that if you could have a win rate of 40/100 spins or greater, that you would always
close your session a winner?

Would that be a HG?
It doesn't work like that. You Have to look at events that are Always happening. There are More ways to Rome then One!  :thumbsup:

jekhb76

Something for the math guys....
2 days ago i was at my local BM and next to me was a Guy Who was only betting on Red  :lol: well the laughter went away when he expllained what he did.
He said i Always bet on Red and only need 18 hits on Red to win at least +10 units in 60 spins. So 18/42.

He said i've been playing this for 3 years now and never lost a session.
He plays a few sessions a day with a +20-+40 win goal and go home.and never saw less then 18 reds in 60 spins.

He said that he had worked out a Special labby progression that only worked in the way he Made it. He said with a normal labby it isn't possible.

He'd creates many horror sessions for himself and the worst Max bet on Red he's would Make in those 3 years was 98 units in one spin. He Always uses a bank of 140 units and never lost his bank.

I ran a few tests the other day and over 25000 spins the least number of reds i saw in 60 spins was 19.

Is it possible to make a labby progression that Always Grands us a minimum of +10 units in 60 spins when there are atleast 18 reds ? (We need 18 hits)

He said, that this was a HG for him.
Mmmmmm. Anyone good with math can work this out?

ozon


jekhb76


ozon

There was a good subject somewhere about labby, but I can not find him.
In total, an interesting concept, limiting yourself to only 60 spins and fixing a stoplose for the session, probably in the long run, it should lose, but you never know.

MrG

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 20, 03:43 PM 2018
Thanks man, Will Read through it.  :thumbsup:

You should check this. This is whole thread about that idea:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3280.msg29753#msg29753

The problem is some number of even chances in amount of spins is not the whole equation. There is second part and that is variance.

jekhb76

This man said, that in 3 years of playing this method he'd never won less then +10 units in 60 spins!

More important, he Made his own labby variant that would Grand him this. Not the normal labby, he said; that won't work. Took him 5 years to find the awnser.

And only red, never changed the Color he said.
When he would reached 18 reds, he is done for that session.
Never saw less then 18 reds in 60 spins. With am All Time bank of 140 units. And largest bet place in More then 1000 sessions was 98 units in one spin.

He said, figure this Special labby out and you Will Have a Nice Small HG to play with the rest of your Life.

:ooh: :ooh:

So worst is 42 balckz incl. Green.
But it's the spin Window between hits that is the factor need for this labby.

Madi

Any labby is broken form of marti which will eventually form a marti with a killer sequence.

I would suggest to get virtual win till 13 red and then release the labby but be sure there will b higher stake.

Bigbroben

Well just say wtf is Vaddis, according to what you know!

Now I think it is safer to have a max wager when using any kind of Lavouchere ( my letter Vee doesn't work!) and split losses into many smaller fights.

Say you want 10u profit in max 60 spins: you should have a worst case scenario strategy ready to use when it happens.
Let's say the Lavvy prog is 1,2,3,4.
Shortest session would give 2 spins.
If 10 losses in row happen every 1000 games, there necessarily is a way of splitting losses at a certain threshold.

Ok, say 6 losses like this: WLLLLL.  Which would give 2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15.  Total units to win vack: 65u, in 54 spins and minimum 17 expected wins.  With Lavvy you need 1w every 2 losses.
Ok: 17 wins and 37 losses, almost 1:2.
How do we catch vack those 65u in 54 spins with a 1w/2l ratio?  Split 65 in how many littles fights?

Interesting.  There is something like this in MonteCarlo Anecdotes...

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

Quote from: Bigbroben on May 20, 08:04 PM 2018

How do we catch vack those 65u in 54 spins with a 1w/2l ratio?  Split 65 in how many littles fights?

Without going over the 140u vankroll...
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

jekhb76

Quote from: PassionRuleta on May 20, 09:52 PM 2018
Well, I've been studying for a long time and I've studied a lot of things, I do not know how long you've been there, but I've always been looking for the best internet and studying the best ways to win, all of them end up being very difficult or you can not really win with them consistently ...
Then I find a thing of a person (vaddis) where he says how to win and flat and very easy.
I start to study like a madman with my classmates and to look at him in all possible ways to decipher how we have done with everything that was put in front of us and we realize that it is the easiest, flat and that it wins much better than any other way ... other ways? sure they will, but so easy? I DON `T BELIEVE.
Aora that everyone study what seems best.

regards O0
Passion,
Aren't you getting tired of yourself preaching Vaddis like a God All the Time? No has figured out how Vaddis his method works, and in Just a few weeks Time, you Have found your HG in it! Man you deserve a medal of honor for this.  :yawn:

keepontryin

Quote from: jekhb76 on May 21, 01:39 AM 2018
Passion,
Aren't you getting tired of yourself preaching Vaddis like a God All the Time? No has figured out how Vaddis his method works, and in Just a few weeks Time, you Have found your HG in it! Man you deserve a medal of honor for this.  :yawn:
.........i think turbo and passion belong to the same roulette club........

daveylibra

Vladi, if you are still following this...

The equation (DrawDown+1)/(Expected Wins Left) is fine but it does not put Bets Left into the equation.
I'm trying to work out how we can factor this in?

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