ONE FOUR THREE ROULETTE

[Turner]

CHALLENGE:

Test it with the numbers from Spielbank, 3/14/2013/table 7.

Zeros and all............

Samster

Nice idea Sam. its a standard all can test.

One thing, T7 is sometimes unused, especially during the week. T2/T3 is always used.

[TwoCatSam]

So, Gents, was I offensive?

For some reason there are guys--one especially--who "trot shop", as I like to call it, until they get a trot of numbers that makes the system/method look good.  For the life of me, I don't know why.

But if you announce your trot two days in advance and then win, you have a lot more credibility.

If I get time tomorrow, I will download the numbers and run a few of them.  If it's half way good, I'll pay to bot it!  (Naw! 7/8ths of the way good; not half!)

Sam

[soggett]

ok, yesterday from spielbank arhive, table 2 at wiesbaden

w w w w w l l
l w w w w w w
w l w w w l w
w w l l w w l
     
w w w w w w l
w l w l w l w
w w w w l w l
     
l w l l l w w
l l w w l l l
     
w l w w w l w
l w w w w l w
w w w w l l w
w w w l l w w
w w l l w w l
     
l l w l l l w
w w w w w w w
     
w l l l w w w
w w w w l w w
l l l l l w w
     
w w w w l w w
w l l l l w l
w w l l l w l
w w w l w l w
w l l l w l w


playing +2/-1 got preety high, highest bet 17, ended +96  (I stopped on the red win where the progression ended, after that there are not enough numbers to end the progression)
so maybe +2/-1 not so good after all?

[soggett]

So, Gents, was I offensive?

For some reason there are guys--one especially--who "trot shop", as I like to call it, until they get a trot of numbers that makes the system/method look good.  For the life of me, I don't know why.

But if you announce your trot two days in advance and then win, you have a lot more credibility.

If I get time tomorrow, I will download the numbers and run a few of them.  If it's half way good, I'll pay to bot it!  (Naw! 7/8ths of the way good; not half!)

Sam

Not at all Sam, I think this is a very good idea

[TwoCatSam]

ok, yesterday from spielbank arhive, table 2 at wiesbaden

w w w w w l l     5/2
l w w w w w w   6/1
w l w w w l w     5/2
w w l l w w l       4/3
     
w w w w w w l   5/1
w l w l w l w       4/2
w w w w l w l     4/2
     
l w l l l w w         3/4
l l w w l l l           2/5
     
w l w w w l w     5/2
l w w w w l w     5/2
w w w w l l w     5/2
w w w l l w w     5/2
w w l l w w l       4/3
     
l l w l l l w           2/5
w w w w w w w 7/0
     
w l l l w w w      4/3
w w w w l w w  6/1
l l l l l w w          2/5
     
w w w w l w w  6/1
w l l l l w l          2/5
w w l l l w l        3/4
w w w l w l w    5/2
w l l l w l w        3/4

TOTALS             102/58


playing +2/-1 got preety high, highest bet 17, ended +96  (I stopped on the red win where the progression ended, after that there are not enough numbers to end the progression)
so maybe +2/-1 not so good after all?

You are very close to a break-even.  A D'Alembert should make this win going away.

Sam

[warrior]

In jiujitsu for many years 24 to exact ,and i never give anything to the student unless they show some interest and dedication,and show up for classes, sogget the second part of the bet that makes this a real winner will be in you pm later on today, and will share with SAM. thanks for your interest warrior.

[warrior]

So, Gents, was I offensive?

For some reason there are guys--one especially--who "trot shop", as I like to call it, until they get a trot of numbers that makes the system/method look good.  For the life of me, I don't know why.

But if you announce your trot two days in advance and then win, you have a lot more credibility.

If I get time tomorrow, I will download the numbers and run a few of them.  If it's half way good, I'll pay to bot it!  (Naw! 7/8ths of the way good; not half!)

Sam

A horse trots , and you can lead them to water ,but you cant make them drink.

[soggett]

In jiujitsu for many years 24 to exact ,and i never give anything to the student unless they show some interest and dedication,and show up for classes, sogget the second part of the bet that makes this a real winner will be in you pm later on today, and will share with SAM. thanks for your interest warrior.

Thanks man, looking forward to it

[biagle]

In jiujitsu for many years 24 to exact ,and i never give anything to the student unless they show some interest and dedication,and show up for classes, sogget the second part of the bet that makes this a real winner will be in you pm later on today, and will share with SAM. thanks for your interest warrior.

why not share it here? I like line bets, now 2-5 days i dont have time for playing/testing so i can miss this one.. Share it with us if you can. Thank you.

[TwoCatSam]

Hey, Guys..........

Yes, a horse trots.  Where I got the word "trot" for a session, I don't know.  But I like it! 

We humans tend to fool ourselves.  "We tell ourselves that what we found was what we meant to find."....Clint Black   Confirmation bias almost rules us entirely.  If we believe all Elbonians are thieves then we will overlook honest Elbonians no matter how many there are!

So when I want to test Sam's idea, I do it in such a way that confirmation bias will not come into play.  One way of doing this is to use real money.  I cannot look at my checkbook and fool myself into believing lost money is still there.

Another way is to plan on trots from Spielbank two days in advance.

warrior, I will run some tests later today or tomorrow.

Thank you!

Sam

[warrior]

Hey, Guys..........

Yes, a horse trots.  Where I got the word "trot" for a session, I don't know.  But I like it! 

We humans tend to fool ourselves.  "We tell ourselves that what we found was what we meant to find."....Clint Black   Confirmation bias almost rules us entirely.  If we believe all Elbonians are thieves then we will overlook honest Elbonians no matter how many there are!

So when I want to test Sam's idea, I do it in such a way that confirmation bias will not come into play.  One way of doing this is to use real money.  I cannot look at my checkbook and fool myself into believing lost money is still there.

Another way is to plan on trots from Spielbank two days in advance.

warrior, I will run some tests later today or tomorrow.

Thank you!

Sam

Sam lived in Italy many years ,never trust an ALBANIAN, don't test until i give the second part of the bet to sogget.

[Turner]

So, Gents, was I offensive?

For some reason there are guys--one especially--who "trot shop", as I like to call it, until they get a trot of numbers that makes the system/method look good.  For the life of me, I don't know why.

But if you announce your trot two days in advance and then win, you have a lot more credibility.

If I get time tomorrow, I will download the numbers and run a few of them.  If it's half way good, I'll pay to bot it!  (Naw! 7/8ths of the way good; not half!)

Sam

Sam...what happened? i cant see where someone said what you said is offensive?

[TwoCatSam]

Turner

I just thought it myself.  Sometimes I get on my soap box and toss around unwarranted criticism.  True, I am a man with scant few flaws, but that is one of them!   

But in all honesty, who gets your attention?  The fellow who says, "I'll use every trot from Spielbank #3" the way Dane did, or the fellow who just posts some numbers from two years ago?  Why go back two years?  What's wrong with tomorrow?

That is why I have always said that if anyone thinks I'm faking my Dublin videos, pick a spin number and that's where I'll start.  1,343,256  Then there is no question if I win or lose.

Turner, I just love accurate and scientific testing!  'Cept for God.  I'll just take Him on faith.

Sam

[Turner]

Turner

I just thought it myself.  Sometimes I get on my soap box and toss around unwarranted criticism.  True, I am a man with scant few flaws, but that is one of them!   

But in all honesty, who gets your attention?  The fellow who says, "I'll use every trot from Spielbank #3" the way Dane did, or the fellow who just posts some numbers from two years ago?  Why go back two years?  What's wrong with tomorrow?

That is why I have always said that if anyone thinks I'm faking my Dublin videos, pick a spin number and that's where I'll start.  1,343,256  Then there is no question if I win or lose.

Turner, I just love accurate and scientific testing!  'Cept for God.  I'll just take Him on faith.

Sam

When i first came here...i cared if people replied when i posted. I cared if someone made a criticism. I only post in notepad now because i have a bad memory and need to jot down. If people like my idea...great...if I'm the only one posting..i care not.. I promise and claim nothing.
As for you...i can't imagine anyone considering you faked anything. Look who warrier suggested to be the trusted member in his pyramid post....without blinking.
Turner

[warrior]

I have shared the 2nd part with soggett ,now he can see for him self if this is worth posting for every one.