P.A :PREACHING about HG!

[Steve]

Truth hurt...
truth bewildering...
truth beget anger...
truth spurn  acrimony...
truth face embarrassment...
truth invites ridicule...
Truth strictly unacceptable...
truth brings awes...

PA, I think most people are open to the possibility of the HG. Otherwise, why would they be here?

People are rightfully skeptical of your claims. Why wouldn't they be? You aren't being attacked.

Keep in mind:

* Lots of hints and leads, but no solid information pisses people off.
* If you wanted to help people for free, you would help people directly who you felt were worthy, not leave a trail of bread crumbs.
* Every week or so there is a new HG and many people jump on it like it is amazing. Some people win a bit and swear by it. Most people lose. Eventually those who won at the start eventually tank too. And almost nothing is learned.
* The clues of significance that you gave alluded to approaches that just don't work.
* I'm open to the possibility that 1 + 1 doesn't = 2. I just haven't seen anything to suggest that's the case.

[P.A]

Hi Mr. Steve,
With Respect.

U are right...

People are rightfully, to be skeptical of my claims.

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*[ Lots of hints and leads, but no solid information pisses people off].

I had post , the DOZENs bet selection...which quite stable, and will induce more ideas...

I had post, the {virtual, trigger,bet 4spins method}, to avoid variance....and will induce more ideas...

I tell people to read the respected GLC, for some marvelous progression. for if I post them here, that will be plagiarism...

I had tell people to play the 50w/50L , and the 30w/70L game, for they will better in understand variance avoidance....and will induce more understanding ideas...

I had tell people that make a line chart and see the waves.
I had tell people , how LABBY, with virtual play, the get in at the few last spin, will profit...

and I want to tell people to face the truth..which hurt!
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*[ If you wanted to help people for free, you would help people directly who you felt were worthy, not leave a trail of bread crumbs.]

It like, a young couple, driving a car, asking me for direction...
"Hey, Old man, how to drive from here, New York, to Las-Vegas?"

"Oh... Just follow, here,go here, turn there, and there, there and here a map, and u will  reach Las Vegas"

The young retort, "Duh! Why dont u, jump in, and drive us there, ???"...
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A   boy ask a Chef,
"Hey Chef, How to bake a cheese cake? I am interested to be like u."
"Here the RECIPE, go and make them, they delicious, son."..the chef handed the paper to the boy."

After a glance, the boy RETORT..
"DUH! this sound to much trouble, WHY not u bake one for me, I want to eat them, NOW!"
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A young man, eagerly ask a wealthy how to be rich in business..
So the wealthy, felt flattered, tell the youngster, for an hour or so, how he, make it from rags to riches..,in 20years slogging hard...

The youngster stand up and RETORT..
"20years, too long for me! You have the secret to make money, but u are selfish! I need to make money and be rich in 2 weeks!!"
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* [Every week or so there is a new HG and many people jump on it like it is amazing. Some people win a bit and swear by it. Most people lose. Eventually those who won at the start eventually tank too. And almost nothing is learned.]

this is because, sigh..! I said many time, bet selection, that SWING wide, Variance HIT, and ...



* [The clues of significance that you gave alluded to approaches that just don't work.]

"I want it, and I want it NOW!", mentality, has caused many unhappiness, monetary losses, and broken family.


* [I'm open to the possibility that 1 + 1 doesn't = 2. I just haven't seen anything to suggest that's the case.]


I have not concluded my preaching , yet..
and people are unhappy because I did not post my HG here..
sigghhhhh!

Thousand apology, if my wording not elegant, and coarse..
Please Pardon Me.
Thanks.

[Steve]

I have not concluded my preaching , yet..
and people are unhappy because I did not post my HG here..

You can preach, but expect people to be unhappy if you give them vague information. The forum is a place for open discussion, not games and vague clues. Whether or not you intend to play games with people's heads, that's what many people here have done. And it wasted their time. So people can decide for themselves if you actually have something, or are just wasting their time.

With respect, I think you are wasting people's time. Perhaps you think you have something, and maybe you do, but every reasonable indication is otherwise. I would love for you to go win your millions, but I wouldnt be surprised if you havent actually won anything except in tests. If you sincerely did have the HG, then I would pay $100k for it. But it would involve proper testing. Many people have approached me claiming to have the HG, and they sounded just like you. And in the end they see they didnt understand roulette properly, and didnt test their system properly.

Your talk about variance is vague, but clear enough to indicate your theory and approach will not work. Even if you bet ever number on the table, you cannot avoid variance because covering every number is just making a bunch of independent bets. And each bet has its own individual variance. You cannot avoid variance by waiting for or expecting a balance, because you never know how long it will take for that balance to occur. And did you start checking for the balance after 100,1000, or 10,000 spins? You shouldn't even waste time looking at variance control because its like trying to control mathematics, or trying to win roulette with statistics. The approach has been tested millions of times.

So unless your bet selection increases the accuracy of predictions, your method wont work. Very few people tend to understand this, which is clear because they still stay on the same old track.

[P.A]

Dear Mr. Steve.
With Due Respect.

Interested members need  to learn, very slowly, and eagerly, and with highly desirous.
If people not motivated, then I cant help...
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They need to understand

1]what is STABLE bet selection
2]mild progression to bet the selection,
3]variance avoidance strategy.
4]cut loss, that offset by a few more winning sets.

How many people willing to spend time, to study rigorously to understand them?

The games, are a mind raking, so u understand how to expect variance, and math wise, they are true, [to the confine of the game.]

Thanks for your offer.
I had nothing for sale.

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Variance can be MEASURED.



The only69red/200spins, itself is  a VARIANCE...

if u split them to half, 100spins, u will immediately see they are VARIANCE, 30+wins/100,
that happen BACK to back!,

and have caused huge losses to the unsuspecting gambler...

If u do some research, u will noticed that  after the 69/200, the next 200spins, will in math expectation...


This just prove variance has the possibility to happen TWICE, back to back , in 100, but not 200spins...
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the 69/200, itself a VARIANCE in 200spins.
Cut them to half, 100+100, then that a VARIANCE in 100spins.

the record of variance is , RNG was 25/100, in BM, no recorded, but I think will no less than 30/100.

Now, I had published that , and members could, shorten measurement,  to say,
69/200variance.  a record
30/100variance..a record
xx/50variance, and so on..a record..
then u have a chart of VARIANCE, in x spins...
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UNLESS people really UNDERSTAND, that what they really really NEED, is a STABLE bet selection, and a mild progression, and variance avoidance and cut -loss strategy,


then they cant win long term, or make money from the casino.

What I want to tell, after Variance, there will math expectation,

and the risk is back to back variance, just like the 69/200.

two variance 30+wins/100, back to back.



Thanks.

please dont lock this thread for I not yet concluded ,my preaching, on how to BUILD your OWN HG...
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I will be gone for good after I concluded..I promise.
Thanks. and Pardon my English, not beautifully written.

[Steve]

See response below in blue text:

1]what is STABLE bet selection

It cant be betting on lots of different ECs like red, 1-18 etc because as I said before, all you have is a bunch of independent bets. Kav had a similar idea where he bets on lots of numbers randomly around the wheel. It doesnt work like that. It only works in situations where you are predicting a sector, and bet a wider arc. And all that really does is decrease the length of losing streaks.

2]mild progression to bet the selection

Progression doesnt help at all if you dont increase accuracy of predictions. Progression is just different size bets on unrelated spins.

3]variance avoidance strategy

Variance cannot be modified unless you are actually increasing the accuracy of predictions. If you claim to avoid or change variance, you are saying you are increasing the accuracy of predictions. Remember that the spins are not connected, at least in the way most systems assume.

4]cut loss, that offset by a few more winning sets.

Stop-loss does not at all help. If there is a genuine edge, more play means more profit.

Anyway we are both on different pages. Different worlds. Again you may be giving vague information, but it is enough to know your approaches wont work. I explained it above but even if I went into absolute detail, it would just waste my time. In the end just test your system properly, test the working principles, and the truth is revealed. System players do this, see the system loses, then try another method that's more of the same stuff, without knowing it is the same stuff. Really I have been there myself, for many years. And now that I understand it, I dont know what I was thinking.

[P.A]

Here a 'claim', by a respected member,
but I dare not named, LEST,
being accused as 'ACCOMPLICE'.

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His one season BR=500units.
And will win 1500, per season!


and the season, hit/lose rate =7w/3L !???
that 7000-1500=5500units profit.
How he did it?
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[some members already post,
this progression in their postings.]

After some thought,
I think he bet Double dozen,
and his selection must always,
has three-in-rows winning hits.

1st=bet=1/1..win=+1,
2nd=bet=2/2..win=+2,
3rd=bet=3/3..win=+3..total=9-3=6

or in 500u,
1st=bet=200/200..win=+200,
2nd=bet=300/300..win=+300,
3rd=bet=500/500..win=+500..

total=1500-500=1000unit net profit.
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500u,WHAT IF LOSE,

when no three-in-three row win?

1st=bet=200/200..win=+200,lose 400
2nd=bet=300/300..win=+300,lose 400
3rd=bet=500/500..win=+500..lose 500.

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U must win three-wins-in-row.
So the bet selection, must win, 3-in-row,
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He says,
and will win
for 7 season, and lose 3 season!!!
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Honestly, I can understand win, 3-in-row...

But I cant figure out how the
bet selection produce 7w season/3Lose season ratio...?

[Steve]

If I published a system with random bets, some will be winners, but MOST will be losers. The numbers you are providing are well within what is normal for an average system. Any system can win from time to time. I explained more about this in an earlier post.

Anyway please understand I'm not trying to shoot you down. Really I'm trying to help everyone understand what does and doesn't work, and why. The truth isnt always popular. Maybe you have something different, only time and testing will tell for sure.

[Turner]

Steve...I agree with everything you said...accuracy of bet selection is the only way.....and well put I may add.
Aliens and conspiracy theories?
Thats still work in progress

The Law said this...and I agree too.
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This is where I ask myself, "if the answer is this simple, why hasn't anyone else found it before?"............and so far, I'm 100% right, as we have no working system to beat the game.
..........
So where does that leave me?

God only knows!!

(Unfortunatly I am an Agnostic)

[Steve]

Regarding aliens, I find it hard to believe we are the only life form in this enormous universe, and that mankind is only 5,000 years old. To me it seems more plausible that life exists elsewhere, than for us to be alone. Take it one step further..... on our planet, is it common for one lifeform to exploit another? What is true on smaller scales is also true on larger scales. Really I've seen and experienced enough to consider the existence of aliens to be a mundane fact. I've personally seen a "ufo", but whether it was man-made or alien, who knows. Even without that experience, it wouldnt change that I consider the existence of aliens far more probable than improbable.

There are actually many ways to beat roulette. But they all have the central focus of increasing accuracy of predictions. Most systems don't even consider predicting the winning number or area. It's backwards. Considering why the ball lands where it does, and where it is more likely to land next, should be the most obvious approach. I say this now, but back when I started, I thought I had roulette beaten with a dozens system and progression.... because I won most of the time. I eventually learned better.

[Turner]

Steve...I did say work in progress. One universe is finite...but infinite universes ?....we have an exact copy with a Steve and his light Saber. Still reading.

[P.A]

See response below in blue text:

1]what is STABLE bet selection
2]mild progression to bet the selection
3]variance avoidance strategy
4]cut loss, that offset by a few more winning sets.

Dear Mr. Steve.
With Dur Respect.

Let me explain the questionnaires.
[pardon by English.]

1]what is STABLE bet selection
May consist of ANY bet selection, that either,

bet EC,
bet DOZEN
bet Double Dozen,
bet wheel SECTION,SECTIONS,
even single numbers.
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But with one stipulation...
They must always HIT within their MATH-expectation, of -2.7%.

To see whether they always hit -2.7%, we test the selected bet selection..with no progression, 1u, for long spins.

If EC bet, then that selection, MUST always hit -2.7%,
say lose 3, or 4, or 5, or 6units losses, after 111spins..

and always hit that range, with once or twice, greater losses, in say thousand spins, as a 100%, will never exist...
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if EC, it win+30, and lose +30, then, that bad swing!

[as we already know, simply choose , say a RED, for EC bet , is very dangerous, as the worst may hit only 30w/100spins.]
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After we found a bet selection, that after TESTING FOR LONG SPINS, that always , say, CONSTANTLY and consistently, hit within the math expectation of, say, above  40%...

and now, we VERY confident that in the next spins, we will have no less than or, 40%, then what MILD progression, we mated with it to win? Constantly.
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SWING.
A selection, that win +20u now, may also lose -20u later.
and that swing kill br...
A selection, that SWING widely will also -2.7% after long term, but a single BAD swing with aggressive progression, are deadly!
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Many members actually had found STABLE selection, alas , they mate them with aggressive  progression, and then test for thousands spins, and then with only a huge loss, they declared them a failure...
if they test, with no progression, and found it stable, and only lose a narrow BAND, within math expectation, of -2.7%.
after a thousand spins, then, didnt the winning, [with mild progression] offset the  losses?

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2]mild progression to bet the selection.

Any mild progression, mated to, the SWING badly selection, will lose badly...U win one, but losses , say,-10

3]variance avoidance strategy.

even best selection, will swing badly , once in while, when it happen, thus we need a guard, against variance. rather stop betting, missed several wins hit, than sorry.

4]cut loss, that offset by a few more winning sets.
Even best detailed strategy will hit losses, when the worst variance hit, thus need to cut loss, but confidently offset by several more seasons wins.

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the best selections, for EC, DZ, etc, already out there in this very forum, so does best mild progressions, in the respected GLC postings..[thanks GLC]

Variance also being debated vigorously in several forums.

Cut losses, also being debated..
What we need to do, is UNDERSTAND, and the  build our OWN hg...
Thanks.

[Still]

Honestly, I can understand win, 3-in-row...

But I cant figure out how the
bet selection produce 7w season/3Lose season ratio...?

P.A. this post was unclear. Are you asking a question? Also, I think you mean 'session' not 'season'.  But what is this persons idea of a session? What is a session, but mainly, what is this post suggesting? Thanks

[P.A]

P.A. this post was unclear. Are you asking a question? Also, I think you mean 'session' not 'season'.  But what is this persons idea of a session? What is a session, but mainly, what is this post suggesting? Thanks

Opps!!!

Very sorry, my bad English!
A session, not season..hahahaaw

Ok,
He's American.
Bet in Vegas.

He said,
He will sit at a table.
Wait for opportunity to bet.
He will risked 500unit, I think, dollar,
and bet for undisclosed times.
Then if win=1500u, or dollar.
If Lose=-500dollar or units.
walk away, that ONE session.


He will bet for 10 session,

and win 7session, and lose 3session.
that mean 1500x7....minus 500x3...
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I didnt know how he play, as he mysterious, but after reading the respected GLC posting, I think he play Double Dozens.

as...
1st bet=200 & 200, win=+200, that 600 on hand.
2nd bet=300 & 300, win=+300, that 900 on hand.
3rd bet=500 & 500, win=+500, that 1500 on hand.

and the BR risked =500dollars.
Thus 1500-500br=1000dollars.
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1st bet=200 & 200, win=+200,if  lose=400
2nd bet=300 & 300, win=+300,if  lose=400
3rd bet=500 & 500, win=+500,if  lose=500

[denzie]

Anything that goes up most come down. We can agree?
But strangely in roulette it goes back up again. P.A. opened my eyes as i forgot that. The "swing" got my attention.  As i was playing in the beginning EC's with THE LEVELLER from Hermes. The man was right. If you got the patience then you always recover. I didn't lost a session.  But it was slooooow. So what we do? Keep searching for faster method with higher profits.  And i forgot the leveller. Now im playing it again but with some P.A. influence and it made my br grow 8times the original size.....thx to Hermes and P.A. I've learned that patience works.
Just my thoughts. ...

[atlantis]

PA wrote:

if EC, it win+30, and lose +30, then, that bad swing!

[as we already know, simply choose , say a RED, for EC bet , is very dangerous, as the worst may hit only 30w/100spins.]

I found this too. Currently I experiment with DOZ and EC series results. Much better IMHO. More "stable" % expectations.
As you pointed out there are some good ones on the forum (and in this thread)

A.