P.A :PREACHING about HG!

[ddarko]

the thing with "virtual betting" is that most ppl apply it to "avoid losses", but......

It can also "avoid wins".......

Bet every spin & flat bet !!!!!!

[ignatus]

I really can't make any sense of Steve, how cool would you be without your "roulette computers" that predict spins? and claming the only way is the bet according to the wheel, and not the carpet? I'd really like to know about what your system is all about, and how many numbers are bet??

I really can't make any sense of the wheel, either it would be playing with "wheel sectors" or try to predict the next spin, how many pockets away for the next spin?

The only thing i know, for sure, is that numbers hit in clusters on the wheel,... and 2 of my wheel strategies have been somewhat successful, that is "General Cluster 1 & 2"

How about Steve letting us know what your "secret roulette computer strategy" is all about, seems just as much mystery like PA's "preachings".....

[Kattila]

****It can also "avoid wins".......****

It can also avoid losses.........It can also "avoid wins........It can also avoid losses....etc......but do you have such a bet selection
that gives you flat bet more W tha Ls ? , in that case you don t need to avoid nothing just bet and win.
I just said before ...i use virtual betting like Maps for next decisions.....and they sometimes hepls, sometimes not, but i think is
better sometimes than never. 
Well, anyway we are free to have own opinions about this or that....no one is obligated/ forced to use any methodology/system from others , we just discuss...

[Turner]

Go Ignatus !!!

[ddarko]

****It can also "avoid wins".......****

It can also avoid losses.........It can also "avoid wins........It can also avoid losses....etc......but do you have such a bet selection
that gives you flat bet more W tha Ls ? , in that case you don t need to avoid nothing just bet and win.
I just said before ...i use virtual betting like Maps for next decisions.....and they sometimes hepls, sometimes not, but i think is
better sometimes than never. 
Well, anyway we are free to have own opinions about this or that....no one is obligated/ forced to use any methodology/system from others , we just discuss...

That's what I'm looking for, that's an HG in my book.

Not knocking what you say or do Kattila, I just wanted to put that point across 

[Kattila]

 

[P.A]

if I have counted this session right then you are having 54 wins and 46 losses. 52% is the worst I have seen in my plays and in my simulations.  This gives you a marked advantage as against a standard 48.65% from a single zero wheel. If you look at the following carefully, you will also figure out that variance has gone beyond my perceived limits 7 times out of 60, however this is within the limits I needed to create an edge.

Gentlemen.

He says.
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52% is the worst I have seen in my plays and in my simulations.  This gives you a marked advantage as against a standard 48.65% from a single zero wheel. I
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If what he claimed, always around, at or above 50%,

then maybe u still remember the '50w/50L game', that I presented earlier?

Of course , u will say, just flatbet from the start is just as marvelous!
if always 50%+...?

In my humble opinion,
that kind of bet selection,   quite a stable with low swing.
Interested members will make some test ...

[RouletteGhost]

I think I found an EC bet selection that wins as much as it loses, currently have celtic casino live wheel on auto bet fun money and I'm up over the past hour flat betting

Bet streets 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11

6 lines, 3 numbers each, total of 18 numbers EC

[P.A]

I think I found an EC bet selection that wins as much as it loses, currently have celtic casino live wheel on auto bet fun money and I'm up over the past hour flat betting

Bet streets 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11

6 lines, 3 numbers each, total of 18 numbers EC

Hi RG,
with respect.

You found a bet-selection.

Then please

1] test for   very long spins, testing, in say '100spins/set',
and test for , say 1000sets.


2] then , identify, how large the possible variance...
and the   w/L ratio %.

3]Then , if u are very confident, your bet selection, is very STABLE,
say, always end up with say, no less than 40% hit.

4]Now u have,  expected variance risk, how high, or low it will swing...

5]then how are u going to win, with what kind of MILD progression,
if u very confident, that next 100spins will not less than , say 40% hit.

6]and what u going to do when the EXPECTED variance visit, or any variance avoidance strategy...

7]and how much losses if cut-loss,

8]and how many next session wins profit to offset a session losses.


and u have build your own hg...
Thanks.

[RouletteGhost]

LOOK WHAT JUST HAPPENED JUST NOW

some variance?

[P.A]

****It can also "avoid wins".......****

It can also avoid losses.........It can also "avoid wins........It can also avoid losses....etc......but do you have such a bet selection
that gives you flat bet more W tha Ls ? , in that case you don t need to avoid nothing just bet and win.
I just said before ...i use virtual betting like Maps for next decisions.....and they sometimes hepls, sometimes not, but i think is
better sometimes than never. 
Well, anyway we are free to have own opinions about this or that....no one is obligated/ forced to use any methodology/system from others , we just discuss...

Hi Kattila,
with respect.

One of the simple method,
is make a very long set spins test.

then see how a loss, will happen, BACK to BACK,

will back-to-back, happened, TWICE, THRICE, or more..?

then think, out the risk control...

win set.
lose set.[once]
win set.
win set.
lose set.
lose set.[back to back lose]
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.
lose set.[once]
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.
lose set.
lose set.
lose set.[back to back, loss thrice]
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.
win set.

[P.A]

Anyone wanting to test systems see link:://:.roulettephysics.com/testing/

Most important is below:

Identify the working principle of your roulette strategy

For a roulette system to work, there must be a reason why it works. This sounds simple enough, but most people blindly test hoping that there is some unknown principle or secret they have uncovered, which allows them to win. When developing a system, it should begin with an idea. I’ll use the concept of thinking that eventually there will be some kind of balance that occurs. For example, say 10 reds spin in a row. This is a classic example, and you may believe that red is on a streak. Or you may believe that black is finally due to spin next. The reality is the odds don’t change, because previous spins do not affect future spins, at least in the way that most gamblers expect. But for the sake of keeping things simple, let’s assume that you think black is finally due to spin. Before you waste thousands of dollars testing this principle, check the results of real roulette spins, and look for cases where there are many red numbers in a row. Then check how many times either black or red wheel spin next. Forgetting that zero exists, normally you can expect there to be a 50-50 chance of either colour spinning. Now does your test indicate the odds change after a streak of colours?

Thanks Mr Steve,
That a very good advice, for all.

May I borrow your essay, as My English, is pathetic...hehehe
Thanks.
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For a roulette system to LOSE, there must be a reason why it LOSE. ..

THERE ARE THE LOSING SEQUENCES, THAT CAUSED HUGE LOSSES...

This sounds simple enough, but most people blindly test WITHOUT KNOWING that there is some KNOWN principle,
[THE HOUSE EDGE & VARIANCE], 
which CAUSED them to LOSE HUGE!

. When developing a system, it should begin with an idea.

WE use the concept of thinking that eventually there will be some kind of -2.7% & VARIANCE LOSSES that occurs.

For example, say 10 reds spin in a row. This is a classic example, and you may believe that red is on a streak.

Or you may believe that black is finally due to spin next. The reality is the odds don’t change, BUT RATHER,...

AFTER A STREAKS, THERE, WILL , AT BEST, WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION!
AT WORST, STREAKS HIT AGAIN!

because previous spins do not affect future spins, at least in the way that most gamblers expect.

But for the sake of keeping things simple, let’s assume that you think black is finally due to spin. Before you waste thousands of dollars testing this principle, check the results of real roulette spins, and look for cases where there are many red numbers in a row.

Then check how many times either black or red wheel spin next. Forgetting that zero exists, normally you can expect there to be a 50-50 chance of either colour spinning....

AND U WILL SEE, MOST OF THE TIME, THEY WILL WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION...

Now does your test indicate the odds change after a streak of colours?...NO!

AND U WILL FINALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, AFTER STREAKS, WE COULD SAFELY, ASSUME, THAT, THERE WILL ALWAYS ...WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION,

I SAY ALWAYS, NOT 100%.
THANKS.

[P.A]

The expert ,should skip this,
as it repetitive, and very boring..
Thanks.

Ladies, and Gentlemen,
Today, I want to preach , about, the ..
MATH EXPECTATION.

What is this ?
Math expectation, simply mean, they happen, as the better side of probability dictate...

eg.EC bet, if no zero, then BLACK and RED, should have 50% hit for each.

Any win/lose ratio, that 45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55wins hits, in a 100spins, will be regarded as expected hit...

and just 30, to 40wins hit , per 100spins, is out of the grasp of MATH expectation, although, that is also EXPECTED,...hahahaaw

But in the real gambling sense,
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WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION, simply mean...,
easily win, and profit, with any simple progression!!!!!

simply..
Because the win/loss ratio,
is near BREAKEVEN!!!
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This is the TRUTH, that I intent to tell u!

The truth that hurt!
The truth, that embarrassed some!
The truth that caused anger!
The truth that disappoint!
The truth that awes!
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the TRUTH, is ,
there will be some VARIANCE, and losing sequences,
that are SIMPLY  IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT!!!
with any acceptable progression, in real casino...
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and we can,
just simply,
choose...,
not to face them!
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why?
there are no rules , say u must bet every spin,
or every set, or every LOSING SEQUENCES!?
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NOW!
U understand why, casino still standing, while we are still debating here?! hahahahaaawhaw!

IGNORANT, had caused many broken life...
and casino boss, still smirking widely on the way home, after laughing all the way to bank!
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think about it!

[Steve]

See response below in blue text:

I really can't make any sense of Steve, how cool would you be without your "roulette computers" that predict spins?

I dont know. Probably still pretty cool.

and claiming the only way is the bet according to the wheel, and not the carpet?

Isn't it obvious that roulette is about a wheel and ball, and not "carpet"?

I'd really like to know about what your system is all about, and how many numbers are bet??

There is lots of information at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/cross-referencing/ - If you fully read my sites, including the FAQs at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/frequently-asked-questions/ you'll probably find almost all your questions are answered.

But I'll summarize. My system is about correlating the spin outcomes to a variety of real and physical variables, and how everything correlates, to predict future spins. It's not voodoo, it's plain common sense. The full system uses permutations to figure out what variables are relevant, and which are not. And it models what happens if one variable changes, because roulette is a very dynamic game.


I really can't make any sense of the wheel, either it would be playing with "wheel sectors" or try to predict the next spin, how many pockets away for the next spin?

Yes it's all wheel sectors. Distance from previous spin is related. They key is modelling the correlation and how each variable affects other variables. If one significant thing is changed, everything else changes. If you look at distance from previous spin alone, your edge will come and go, peaks change, and the overall effect is no edge at all unless the wheel is very easily beaten. That kind of simplistic approach is what i call the primordials.

The only thing i know, for sure, is that numbers hit in clusters on the wheel,... and 2 of my wheel strategies have been somewhat successful, that is "General Cluster 1 & 2"

If you mean streaks, they are an illusion except in cases where there is a bias (including temporary). You can know this by checking if the odds change before, during or after a defined streak occurs. The odds dont change.

How about Steve letting us know what your "secret roulette computer strategy" is all about, seems just as much mystery like PA's "preachings".....

Its not a mystery if you read my sites and see my videos. The computer measures the ball and rotor speed, uses data about deceleration, predicts where the ball is most likely to fall, then you create a correlation chart to adjust for bounce. That's the basics of any computer. I give free details to make your own computer on my websites. I'm not playing riddles, but of course I keep some things secret like exact algorithms. You could easily fully read all my sites and better understand it all.

[Steve]

Ill just add that asimplistic computer can be coded in about 10 mins, literally. My hybrid computer has taken around 3 years to develop, and before that around another 6 years of development and testing with my other computers and algorithm. Tens of thousands of man hours, and easily six figures in development costs. The hybrid is not a 10 minute computer. It can get accurate predictions 1 second after ball release (automatically), and relay the bets to any amount of players, while the players have nothing but phones, and the main processor is thousands of miles from the casino. Unless you have developed this kind of technology, there's no way you can appreciate the kind of work thats involved to develop it.