NO - It's not "Attention Deficit Disorder"! :twisted:
I thought it worth revisiting this double dozen system from member 'Dino' posted some time ago...
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Against Dominant Dozen (or ADD for short)
=================================
I'm sure this concept is not new to all the hardened Matrix players out there.
This idea i have only just thought up and welcome any thoughts and questions.
Best way to describe for me is to show what happens in actual Game-Play using B+M Live-De
aler spins.
111
123 NB(DUE TO 111)
121 NB(DUE TO 123)
331 W1(BET AGAINST DOMINANT D1 IN ABOVE LINE)
111 W1(BET AGAINST DOMINANT D3 IN ABOVE LINE)
311 NB(DUE TO 111)
212 W1(BET AGAINST DOMINANT D1 IN ABOVE LINE)
213 W2(BET AGAINST DOMINANT D2 IN ABOVE LINE)
212 NB(DUE TO 213)
113 W1( BET AGAINST DOMINANT D2 IN ABOVE LINE) ETC.
221 W1
112 W1
333 W1
332 NB
312 W2
131 NB
322 W1
133 W1
211 W1
W1 = WON ON 1ST BET.
W2 = WON ON 2ND BET
Regards.
Dino.
OK - so easy simple rules.
In addition I only bet max of TWICE in a row.
If lose both bets (1-1; 2-2) then loss = -6
Here is a session I tried today:
@=against
nb=no bet
w1st=won on first bet (1-1)
w2nd=won on second bet (2-2)
In this system you NEVER bet higher than 2u on each dozen - so no big drawdowns!
In fact if you DO get a couple of bad results its worth considering to end session... butttt....up to you to decide when to quit.
A win on the second bet means a DRAW for that round.
(Could be used as a complementary system to another method being played perhaps too)
231 nb
223 @2
122 w1st @2 +1
232 w2nd @2 +1
012 w2nd nb due to 0 +1
222 nb
313 @3
132 w1st nb +2
313 @3
121 w1st @1 +3
121 w2nd @1 +3
313 w1st @1 +4
223 w1st @2 +5
131 w1st @1 +6
330 nb
323 @3
213 w1st nb +7
331 @3
232 w1st @2 +8
123 w1st nb +9
333 nb
213 nb
112 @1
122 w2nd @2 +9
112 w1st @1 +10
213 w1st nb +11
330 nb
321 nb
122 @2
231 w2nd nb +11
232 @2
231 w2nd nb +11
223 @2
212 w2nd @2 +11
201 nb
321 nb
223 @2
333 w1st nb +12
132 nb
132 nb
210 nb
222 nb
233 @3
333 L-L nb +6
113 @1
311 w1st @1 +7
132 w2nd nb +7
211 @1
233 @3
123 w1st nb +8
333 nb
212 @2
213 w2nd nb +8
332 @3
133 w1st @3 +9
322 w2nd @2 +9
312 w1st nb *stop +10u profit.
:smile:
A.
Dozens and columns same time
:love:
Hi Atlantis,
Good shout this. So easy to play. Dozens/columns at same time depending on qualifiers.
One thing that I have changed is that I am playing 1-1 3-3. I reckoned that the extra units won would make up for a loss and if a loss did not come along then more in front. Even if 2 losses come along we are not talking mega bucks. It is only 4 units extra less what you have won by betting 3-3
Played this and am up 20 units despite one loss (8 units) About an hour play whilst I settled in to it.
Wonder if it can be botted? (Leave it running all night)
Brian
Played this today on and off. Well in front overall. Did have a few losses which were soon recovered. You know what you are betting on. What the stakes are: What your loss could be. Betting both dozens and columns when qualifying.
Great call.
Brian
Mogul should like this. It is a two step.
I like how
333 is a non trigger
Avoids streaks
:thumbsup:
Hi,
Only just got round to trying a quickie real money session.
131 @1
312 w+1 nb
333 nb
331 @3
223 w+1 @2
122 w+1 @2
122 w+1 @2
103 w+1 nb
110 nb
112 @1
2-- w+1 end
+6
Credit to Dino for this one.
Great result for a first try - all first bet wins :ooh:
Flawless!
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=LvY6hl6qOIw
:)
A.
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How does it apply to this? Kind of like the ying and the yang.
link:://forum.x/index.php?topic=1376.0
Quote from: bleep24 on Feb 28, 10:08 AM 2017
Mogul should like this. It is a two step.
I do. See the other link below.
Silly question. Do you always wait for the next group or 3 spins?
Example.
(zumma ppage 101, 2nd columb)
1 3 2 3 3/ *1* 3 3 1 2 2
Do you wait for 3 more spins, or does the "3 3 1" give you another setup?
Or is it the beginning of avoiding bad bets?
Isn't it a little like, when you see two in a row, bet twice against 3-4?
The difference in betting against 3 in a row is that you give it two shots.
Inevitable sleepers kill this thing.
The thread I posted...
link:://forum.x/index.php?topic=1376.0
Is about single dozen. Perhaps betting for a repeat of the previous
2 dozen when you get 2 within 3 for 2 bets would help.
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 28, 12:17 PM 2017
Isn't it a little like, when you see two in a row, bet twice against 3-4?
The difference in betting against 3 in a row is that you give it two shots.
Quote
Silly question. Do you always wait for the next group or 3 spins?
Example.
(zumma ppage 101, 2nd columb)
1 3 2 3 3/ *1* 3 3 1 2 2
Do you wait for 3 more spins, or does the "3 3 1" give you another setup?
Or is it the beginning of avoiding bad bets?
Hi mogul,
Why confusion about play?
It's all laid out above. System is called "AGAINST Dominant Dozens"
When you get a triplet containing 2 same and 1 different - trigger to bet for up to 2 times AGAINST the dominant.
eg: 112 - bet against 1
eg: 212 - bet against 2
eg: 133 - bet against 3
111,222,333 and also 123,132, 213, 231, 312, 321 are no bets
And any triplet containing a 0 is a no bet. eg: 110, 120, 001
A.
A sore the says "pull" confuses mogul
:xd:
(Jk)
*door
Not sore
Thanks for the 2 minute edit time steve
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 28, 12:27 PM 2017
The thread I posted...
link:://forum.x/index.php?topic=1376.0
Is about single dozen. Perhaps betting for a repeat of the previous
2 dozen when you get 2 within 3 for 2 bets would help.
Hi mogul - Quite Interesting! :)
OK - Let's switcheroo it round then!
Here's my previous results again but this time just betting FOR the dominant doz instead of against...
This time I use very mild single doz progression (highest was 2u in my test or can use eg: GLAT progression)
Also I bet three times as opposed to just 2 in the "against" version.
231
223
122 L1;w2 +1
232 w2 +3
012
222
313
132 L1;w2 +4
313
121 L1;L1;L1 (now up to 2u) +1
121 w4 +5
313 L1; w2 +6
223
131 L1;L1;L1 +3
330
323
213 L2; L2; w4 +3
331
232 L2; w4 +5
123 L1; w2 +6
333
213
112
122 w2 +7
112 L1; L1; w2 +7
213 L1; w2 +8
330
321
122
231 w2 +10
232
231 w2 +12
223
212 w2 +14
201
321
223
333 L1; L1; L1 (up to 2) +11
132
132
210
222
233
333 w4 +15
113
311 L1; w2 +16
132 w2
211
233 L1; L1 ;L1 (up to 2) +13
123
333
212
213 w4 +17
332
133 L1; w2 +18
322 w2 +20
312 L1; L1; w2 +20
Seems that +10pts more than the A.D.D. way.
:ooh: :smile: :twisted:
Good Luck (if you need it!!!)
Thanks,
A.
It is not sleepers that kill this, it is repeaters.
Played a session today. Came out a touch in front. 6 steps forward - 6 steps back so still pretty good.
Will have another session tomorrow and see how it goes.
Brian
So.... 1 3 9 27 81
??
:twisted:
I should have said 7 steps forward, 6 steps back. Also posted about repeaters before seeing change of method. Obviously now repeaters are good.
Bleep
No RG, we are not going down that road. We all know where it ends.
On a serious note
On the original ADD
The general consensus is betting only the 1st two bets of the matrix with a 1-1 and is a loss a 2-2??
Lanky's Divisor would be a more conservative progression for this bet selection.
Perhaps looking for +1 unit per hour of play (50-60spins) + an emergency progressive bank (100-200-400-800) after a certain loss limit is reached would create a full-proof method for long-term play.
Not exciting.........but very profitable, as the betting range would stay pretty limited.......so well under the table limits at all times. :thumbsup:
It was just a thought question. Because in real time you can get the
impression that it is a rolling method.
After all, just because you just played one trigger, doesn't mean that you
couldn't fall into the next trigger. And what's to say that that would be
where you entered play?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 28, 12:55 PM 2017
*door
Not sore
Thanks for the 2 minute edit time steve
You were right the first time.
Quote from: atlantis on Feb 28, 03:12 PM 2017
Hi mogul - Quite Interesting! :)
OK - Let's switcheroo it round then!
Here's my previous results again but this time just betting FOR the dominant doz instead of against...
This time I use very mild single doz progression (highest was 2u in my test or can use eg: GLAT progression)
Also I bet three times as opposed to just 2 in the "against" version.
231
223
122 L1;w2 +1
232 w2 +3
012
222
313
132 L1;w2 +4
313
121 L1;L1;L1 (now up to 2u) +1
121 w4 +5
313 L1; w2 +6
223
131 L1;L1;L1 +3
330
323
213 L2; L2; w4 +3
331
232 L2; w4 +5
123 L1; w2 +6
333
213
112
122 w2 +7
112 L1; L1; w2 +7
213 L1; w2 +8
330
321
122
231 w2 +10
232
231 w2 +12
223
212 w2 +14
201
321
223
333 L1; L1; L1 (up to 2) +11
132
132
210
222
233
333 w4 +15
113
311 L1; w2 +16
132 w2
211
233 L1; L1 ;L1 (up to 2) +13
123
333
212
213 w4 +17
332
133 L1; w2 +18
322 w2 +20
312 L1; L1; w2 +20
Seems that +10pts more than the A.D.D. way.
:ooh: :smile: :twisted:
Good Luck (if you need it!!!)
Thanks,
A.
Not too shabby!!!!!!
While you were all having this gabfest I was away at the casino, trying to figure
out what method to play. I won $16. But not on these. Oddly enough I saw
a setup for the XYY, bet on the two dozen and lost a bet.
Hit AGAIN on my 25/27 thing on the table. They like each other. And I keep wondering
if it suggests anything else.
I'll keep plugging on this. Good idea and variation.
Just for reference from above chart:
LWWLWLLLWLWLLLLLWLWLWWLLWLWWWWLLLWLWWLLLWLWWLLW :thumbsup:
21 wins and 27 losses, so statistically a good run. :ooh:
Allow me to join the party
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75 spins
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25 mini games
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17 mini games playable with proper trigger
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Results two ways
*With progression 1-1, 3-3, 9-9, no losses
+17 units
*With progression 1-1, 2-2, on first 2 bets of matrix only, one mini game loss
+3 units
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I am not thrilled about being only +3 units after 75 spins
but obviously that was a tough session, lots of 1st try losses then the break even win on the 2nd try
so will entertain the original way of betting only the first two spins of the matrix but perhaps with a 1-1, 3-3
had I done 1-1, 3-3 on first two spins of each mini game, I would have suffered one mini game loss but still made +8 units, and that I can deal with
so for me at this time, testing going forward, I will cap each mini game at 1-1, 3-3 and if lose go back to 1-1 on next mini game
grass roots deja vu hit me. oye.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 01, 10:26 PM 2017
I am not thrilled about being only +3 units after 75 spins
Conservative wins are still wins. :thumbsup:
I would rather see a boring slow conservative result than a dynamic one any day. :xd:
Hi RG,
Yes, that is the way that I am playing. 1 - 1 3 - 3 Stop. Yes you will suffer one or two 8 unit losses but should still come out in front.
Brian
Agreed the law but it's just not enough
Agreed bleep
1-1; 2-2 gave me +3
1-1; 3-3 gave me +8
Easy to see what to do
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 02, 10:37 AM 2017
Agreed the law but it's just not enough
Agreed bleep
1-1; 2-2 gave me +3
1-1; 3-3 gave me +8
Easy to see what to do
Not enough profit......or not profit fast enough? :question:
I guess it depends on chip size.
I'm not willing to win $3 every 75 spins lol
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 02, 02:59 PM 2017
I guess it depends on chip size.
I'm not willing to win $3 every 75 spins lol
Or $300 with $100/unit. :ooh:
Only worth it if the risk is far less than the other progression. :thumbsup:
American Wheel live spin test
Source: Celtic Casino
75 spins
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25 mini games
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11 mini games playable as per trigger
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Results betting only 1st two spins of matrix (2nd bet only if first loses then reset either way)
1-1; 2-2 ---------- +7 units
1-1: 3-3 ---------- +11 units
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Thx for your updates on your latest results RG. :)
Interesting.
A.
im surprised noone got into this more
it is a great little strategy
adding columns at the same time will increase triggers and wins
just have to test columns to see if it works out
ive done countless tests on this on the dozens, to my satisfaction
first columns test was not as good
so i will abandon columns on this
it was not terrible, -2 units in 75 spins with 1-1; 2-2 and even more of a loss with 1-1; 3-3.
so will stick with dozens
must be a layout difference
Hi RG,
I like this system. You can duck in and just play a handful of spins if you want. There is no long progression that you have to play out, and even more spins to get even or in front. It is soooo easy to track. You know exactly what your risk is.
I have been playing the columns as well and my experience with them is positive, though I am not playing columns every spin, mainly when dozens do not have a qualifier, or I just fancy a switch around.
No, you will not make a fortune with this, but if you increase unit amount then it is not too shabby. Is it better to win a little, or lose a lot? I know which one I choose.
Good luck,
Brian
Hi Brian,
Did you ever try just betting FOR the dominant doz instead of against, as I showed in an earlier post?
Can be quite fun if you have a decent single doz prog.
Maybe can play as MoneyT101 suggests and use "hedge"
Play both ways at same time?? For the repeat doz (single doz bet) using the 1-2; and against the repeat doz (double doz bet) using mild prog (eg GLAT)
Or 2 players....
EG
Playing AGAINST the repeat doz
=========================
131 play d2+d3
312 w +1 nb
333 nb
331 play d1+d2
223 w +2 play d1+d3
122 w +3 play d1+d3
122 w +4 play d1+d3
103 w +5 nb
110 nb
112 play d2+d3
212 w +6 end
Playing FOR the repeat doz
======================
131 play d1
312 Lw +1 nb
333 nb
331 play d3
223 LLw +1 play d2
122 Lw +2 play d2
122 Lw +3 play d2
103 LL +1 nb *stop after 0
110 nb
112 play d1
212 Lw +2 end
A.
The idea, and it only an idea at this stage, could be play a few little mini-games; when a profit on both sides STOP
AGAINST
=======
231
311 bet d2+d3
131 Lw +0 bet d2+d3
213 w +1 nb
332 bet d1+d2
213 w +2
+2
FOR
====
231 nb
311 bet d1
131 w +2 bet d1
213 Lw +3 nb
332 bet d3
213 LLw +3
+3
Insurance on 0? Play on nozero?
Btw, I played on for 25 more triple results and finished with +6u (+3 on both sides). The highest profit came after 20 triples recorded and was +8 (+9 Against; -1 For) at that stage. The highest bet on the For side (single doz) was 3u.
A.
I play the above session adding in differential and virtual betting.
Will this perhaps reduce risk and help at all? What do you think?
Just thinking/writing out loud.... :)
vL = virtual lose bet (no bet)
vw = virtual win bet (no bet)
AGAINST (double doz)
=======
231 +0 nb
311 bet d2+d3
131 vL; w +1 bet d2+d3
213 vw +1 nb
332 bet d1+d2
213 vw +1 stop
======
total=+1
=======
FOR (single doz)
====
231 +0 nb
311 bet d1
131 vw +0 bet d1
213 vL; w +2 nb
332 bet d3
213 vL;L;w +3 stop
=======
total=+3
=======
Comments welcome about this direction. Tx.
A.
Are you putting any insurance on the zero? I have too since the only wheel I can find around is American Wheel. How do you think this will do on American?
Quote from: romano0327 on Aug 19, 01:48 PM 2017
Are you putting any insurance on the zero? I have too since the only wheel I can find around is American Wheel. How do you think this will do on American?
Probably best.
For the 1-1 bet place 0.1 on 0
For the 2-2 bet place 0.2 on 0
If doing single doz ensure enough on 0 to return at least money back for the corresponding stake...
Have not tried it on double zero wheel.
There are very few NOZERO wheels can be played online - did anyone yet try that though?
A.
Playing both ways again (hedge) virtual + differential:
AGAINST D.D
===========
311
212 vw
332 vw
232 vw
312 vw nb
222 nb
132 nb
112
332 vw
133 vw
121 vw
133 vL;w1 +1
113 vw
221 vw
232 vL;w1 +2
113 vw
+2
FOR D.D
========
311
212 vL;w2 +2
332 vL;L1;w2 +3
232 vL;w2 +5
312 vL;L1;w2 nb +6
222 nb
132 nb
112
332 vL;L1;L1 +4
133 vL;w2 +6
121 vL;L1;L1 +4
133 vw +4
113 vL;L1;w2 +5
221 vL;L1;w2 +6
232 vw +6
113 vL;L1;L1 +4
+4
A.
One more try:
Against dominant dozen
332
332 vL;L2 -2
232 vw
331 vw
122 vw
331 vw
213 vw nb
122
212 vL;w2 +0
311 vw
133 vL;w1 +1
322 vL;w1 +2
132 vw nb
333 nb
233 vw
321 vL;w1 nb +3
133
322 vL;w1 +4
+4
For Dominant Dozen
332
332 vw
232 vL;w2 +2
331 vL;L1;L1 +0
122 vL;L1;L2 -3
331 vL;L2;L2 -7
213 vL;w6 nb -1
122
212 vw
311 vL;L2;L2 -5
133 vw
322 vw
132 vL;L2;w6 nb -1
333 nb
233 vL;w4 +3
321 vw nb
133
322 vw
+3
Another session:
AGAINST (double dozen bet)
=======
211
111 vL;L2 nb -2
333 nb
231 nb
332
222 vw nb
332
311 vL;w2 +0
222 vw nb
122
121 vw
123 vL;w1 nb +1
123 nb
312 nb
133
111 vw nb
123 nb
212
122 vw
321 vw nb
221
212 vL;w1 +2
132 vw nb
+2
FOR (single dozen bet)
====
211
111 vw nb
333 nb
231 nb
332
222 vL;L1;L1 nb -2
332
311 vw
222 vL;L1;L2 nb -5
122
121 vL; w4 -1
123 vw nb
123 nb
312 nb
133
111 vL;L1;L1 nb -3
123 nb
212
122 vL;w2 -1
321 VL;L1;L1 nb
221
212 vw
132 vl;L1;w4 nb +2
+2
A more protracted session due to abundance of 'same' or 'different' triplets - but no high stakes and I stop with a perfectly acceptable total of +4.
I'm still happy with it so far :)
A.
Now a real money session just now:
A.D.D. (2 doz bet)
=====
212
331 vw +0
133 vw
213 vw nb
213 nb
121
331 vw
121 vw
121 vL;w1 +1
313 vw
323 vL;w1 +2
322 vL;w1 +3
112 vw
===
+3
===
F.D.D (1 doz bet)
====
212
331 vL;L1;L1 -2
133 vL;w2 +0
213 vL;L1;w2 nb +1
213 nb
121
331 vL;L1;w2 +2
121 vL;L1;L1 +0
121 vw +0
313 vL;w2 +2
323 vw
322 vw
112 vL;L1;w2 +3
===
+3
===
+6pts for my first test with real money. :)
A.
Nice job
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 25, 02:11 PM 2017
Nice job
Yes - I amended it to +6 which is correct. (I should actually have got another +2pts but I was playing speed roulette and didn't get bet on in time - and it won!)
I soon discovered it quicker and easier to jot results by hand than by using notepad.
I'm pleasantly surprised with the way this 'hybrid' fusion performed. You are either betting 2doz, 1 doz or no bet. I'm using GLAT progression on single doz. The bets are only made after a virtual loss on the For or Against side.
A.
Hi A & RG
Here some spins from the machine of death RG. RG KTF :thumbsup:
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Hi Notto,
Thanks. I checked and result should be +0 using the 1-1;2-2 - so not a loss! :)
A.
Atlantis
Lot going on in this picture, again RNG ladbrokes. Its me watching 0x's and then getting clever? betting for a repeat, before 20th spin i'm 17units up. So i bet for the 17 to repeat and now back to starting BR, so its a bit, WTF time, but they just kept coming, spin 31, 110 units down, now seeing its already plus 2 for spin 39/40, decide flat bet the 25, stop spin 42 Br even.
You can see betting for repeat in 10 spins you could make a profit.
But now to ADD, think ends +2, but stop earlier with more profit
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100 #'s from MPR just now, 76% for a repeat in 10 spins :thumbsup: click to enlarge
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might help to see repeats
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Mr Taotie, green again
look flatbet 9,8,7,6,5 remaining non-hit :thumbsup:
I like this system but I am only playing bet dominant dozen. 1 1 2 STOP No big losses and easily recovered. More chances as you often get 3 same dozen. Betting double dozens is also ok but I have found single dozen better. I stop anytime a zero shows if I am in a betting sequence. Just my little preferences.
Brian
Quote from: bleep24 on Sep 28, 11:49 AM 2017
I like this system but I am only playing bet dominant dozen. 1 1 2 STOP No big losses and easily recovered. More chances as you often get 3 same dozen. Betting double dozens is also ok but I have found single dozen better. I stop anytime a zero shows if I am in a betting sequence. Just my little preferences.
Brian
Cheers, Brian.
R U Playing on real roulette or rng?
What you think of playing both sides, the hedge idea I covered earlier..? Did you try it or should I say - did u even understand it first? ;)
A.
Hi Atlantis,
I only play `live` dealer. Had my fill of RNG years ago. No I am not playing betting both dozens or differential betting. There are so many possibilities with this. I am testing `leveller` type betting as it seems losing on a single dozen does not lead to long losses and you are betting a different dozen each sequence. I may (probably) have been lucky but my longest loss was 5 and winning on 6th I used 1 1 2 2 3 3 You do not fully recover on that final bet but do on subsequent ones. It can be hard(er) trying to recoup all losses in one bet. This may also lend itself to flat betting. Who knows?
Good luck,
Brian (Too much information on roulette. Who has time to take it all in?)
Hi again Atlantis,
Yes I understood where you are coming from with hedging. I like to keep things as simple as possible and also am not a fan of virtual wins/losses/misses etc. I have never played using virtual as it seems to draw things out. In and out quick is the way to go with each sequence. Only my preference.
Good luck,
Brian
(I am really liking betting dominant dozen with leveller. Will be adding this to my other couple of favourite systems)
Hi All,
I have brought this back up because it is damned bloody good. There really are some great systems already posted in the forum so we do not need to perpetually looking for `new`
What I am playing is against the dominant dozen, Works for me. Why not give it a whirl?
Brian
Agree bleep24. This is my favourite systems play that I occasionally play haven't loss yet so far. I play the variation of Rolling FDD since instead of leave it to chance to play only a third of the spins depending on when the player starts I play every possible spin. As usual the green zero is the nemesis. Here's the excel sheet, have fun with it. Cheers.
Will have to give this a try
Quick Question: do you play Against D.D. (like the excell sheet you provided indicates) or For D.D. (like the text below suggests)?
Quote from: cht on Nov 03, 09:42 PM 2017
Agree bleep24. This is my favourite systems play that I occasionally play haven't loss yet so far. I play the variation of Rolling FDD since instead of leave it to chance to play only a third of the spins depending on when the player starts I play every possible spin. As usual the green zero is the nemesis. Here's the excel sheet, have fun with it. Cheers.
Quote from: Noreilles on Nov 06, 05:41 PM 2017
Quick Question: do you play Against D.D. (like the excell sheet you provided indicates) or For D.D. (like the text below suggests)?
FDD
I wait for a virtual loss LOSS1LOSS2 then start flatbet, max 2 WIN1 or 2 LOSS1 per doz and play max 55spins per etg 10sessions at b&m casino.
Quote from: cht on Nov 03, 09:42 PM 2017
Agree bleep24. This is my favourite systems play that I occasionally play haven't loss yet so far. I play the variation of Rolling FDD since instead of leave it to chance to play only a third of the spins depending on when the player starts I play every possible spin. As usual the green zero is the nemesis. Here's the excel sheet, have fun with it. Cheers.
One of my cousins went to Vegas this weekend and texted me for a recommendation for an "easy Roulette bet for the dozens"...
This old A.D.D thread came to mind, I had played around with it a while ago and liked it, so I sent it to him and told him to play it CHT's way (rolling basis FOR the dominant dozen).
Long story short, he won $450, and sent me a $50 giftcard to Starbucks as a thank you.
Sometimes forum oldies are fun to rehash and keep in mind for when you're tired or bored and want to goof around for a bit.
@ Mako - that's EXACTLY what I've been doing. Checking some of the older ones.
Back then I used info from Dino, and Twister when I put together The TDM 2 Dozens
and I think I have a progression now that doesn't cause big draw downs, and seems to be able to claw itself out. Bit of a grind but fun. Still busy testing before I post my findings for a v2.0
But I fully agree with you - sometimes these older systems are true gems. Instead of people shooting each other down, put heads together to really try and make something work.
Btw - awesome cousin :thumbsup:
Going back to this. Sticking with playing both the 'for + against way' after a virtual loss.
Quote from: atlantis on Feb 24, 08:23 AM 2022Going back to this. Sticking with playing both the 'for + against way' after a virtual loss.
Anybody playing still playing this method with success.
Thanks