*THE MATRIX SLIDE*

[Bayes]

You know mate, I don't mean any disrespect but you are looking more and more like a Shill to me, if you are, you are darn good at it as you must have made many members here waste a fair bit of cash over the last few months. You will probably tell me I was doing it wrong or whatever but in essence all these matrix methods are doing is playing I think people are starting to realise that John's systems are more hype than substance. for/against whatever happened XX spins ago, which is rather irrelivent as the percentage of loss is always within the expected % you WILL get the same results betting EVERY spin, without tracking anything, just throw a dice, 1or2 = DozenA 3or4 = DozenB 5or6 = DozenC your results will be exactly the same guys.

Well said superman, and thanks for showing that yet another touted "winner" doesn't work.

I've kept quiet in regard to John's systems, thinking that people will come to their own conclusions in time, and such is the case;  people ARE beginning to realise that it's more hype than substance. I tried challenging him once, but was attacked for being "negative".      John's posts are fun to read, but none of the systems have any real merit. According to him, a crucial element of success is the nonsense of "hit and run".  The kind of win rates John is claiming just don't hold up, no-one else seems to have achieved them. I say enough is enough! it's time to cut out the BS!

[superman]

According to him, a crucial element of success is the nonsense of "hit and run"

And let's not forget the other, PATIENCE!!

[Bayes]

Well, I actually agree with him about patience, but in my opinion that's important for any method of play, as is self-discipline.

The thing is, he can't accuse you of violating these golden rules, because you tested using a bot. Bots have endless patience and iron self-discipline and they never get distracted by a pretty dealer or need to take a p1ss. 

Even "hit and run" could be simulated; just stop the betting for a random number of trials before starting again.

[warrior]

Always here, ok, I botted it last night, working for a left to right slide and a right to left slide, I left it running overnight on BV NZ, see reveal

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Yes it survived well, I was suprised by how many triggers appeared although sometimes you had to wait up to around 50 spins so that probably answers warriors question.

I wasn't sure if you were waiting for a virtual loss or not, couldn't be bothered reading the full thread, but if you were it would have had to wait most of the night to start as I told the bot to die after a full loss, I also just used the standard 2doc/col progression as you can see as I also wasn't sure on what you are doing, enlighten me.

WHY DO PEOPLE STILL PLAY THIS RNG CRAP.

[Johnlegend]

I played, 1,1-3,3-9,9-27,27-81,81 standard 2xdozen/column progression yes, just to see the bad bits.
 
Funny how it's only YOU that never gets challenged by random!!
 
Keep them trying/spending
 
Sorry mate but that's BS

I had a read of your progression Mr Legend, mild 1,1-3,3 reset DOESN'T work you lose more than you gain SO I tried your 1,1-3,3-9,9 and guess what, see results in Reveal

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95 attacks 4 full losses and it never recovered, I even set it to start at 3 units after a full loss so it could atleast get 3 chips back but the losses come to often.

You know mate, I don't mean any disrespect but you are looking more and more like a Shill to me, if you are, you are darn good at it as you must have made many members here waste a fair bit of cash over the last few months. You will probably tell me I was doing it wrong or whatever but in essence all these matrix methods are doing is playing for/against whatever happened XX spins ago, which is rather irrelivent as the percentage of loss is always within the expected % you WILL get the same results betting EVERY spin, without tracking anything, just throw a dice, 1or2 = DozenA 3or4 = DozenB 5or6 = DozenC your results will be exactly the same guys.

@ everyone else, these results are not fixed, I am NOT negative in any way at all, these tests were run @ Betvoyager NZ so even without the zero this method still fails!!

Use @ your own risk people

Isnt it amazing how you and bayes can sing from the wrong Hymn sheet then try to double team me.

One, I never trust BETVOYAGER NO ZERO. Its an RNG fullstop.

Two, dozens have nothing to do with THE MATRIX SLIDE. It was born and is run on THE COLUMNS.

Three, I am opperating a TWO BY TWO FOUR STEP PROGRESSION. Not two step.

Four calling me a shill is derogatory and insulting. What have I to gain telling lies? To show how one sided your attack on me is, there are other members on here who have reported far more impressive strikerates than myself. I don't see you passing comment there.

I should know better than to ask anything of you. Your objective is to go against anything I bring to this forum making me out to be some kind of con man.

I report exactly as the results come. So when others report even better results than mine. WHERE ARE YOU SUPERMAN and BAYES?

Selectively not around of course. This method as I am playing it is working wonders on a real wheel. Its that simple. So take a step back Ill know better from now on.

Unbiased real testing is the ONLY WAY...

[joiner29]

watch out for betfair live wheel thats what screwed me this morning
tom

[Robeenhuut]

watch out for betfair live wheel that's what screwed me this morning
tom

What do u mean by that?

[MrJ]

"WHY DO PEOPLE STILL PLAY THIS RNG nonsense?" >>> I do agree and great point BTW.

Ken

[Bayes]

Ah, of course, I was forgetting, the evil RNG takes all your bankroll. 

So John, is that your answer? It's all down to the RNG?  I'm not even sure that superman tested the system on a casino RNG, I think it was the built-in RNG in the programming language. In any case, that's a cop-out. I'm sure if  someone took the trouble to test your systems using actuals the results would be the same. I've tested some of them myself this way and got nowhere near your claimed win rate.

BTW, joiner just told us to "watch out for the betfair LIVE wheel".  There you have it; the system is never to blame, it's always the casino which is cheating you! 

To be honest, I'm surprised that superman bothers to bot these systems any more. Here we have someone with the skill to put them through a thorough test, and actually puts in the time and effort to do it, but does he get so much as a "thank you"?  there's always some excuse why the results are apparently invalid. Talk about shooting the messenger...

[Johnlegend]

 

watch out for betfair live wheel that's what screwed me this morning
tom

Tom someone lost AMKS code 4 on their very first go. Does that mean the methods worthless? Then someone else has won 1,300 games with CODE 4. I don't know of Betfair. Are they a RUSSIAN LIVE FEED?

I use Betfreds and Ladbrokes for the most part.
Here is my results for the FOUR STEP PROGRESSION.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 150

TOTAL GAMES WON 150

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 100%

BALANCE 300 UNITS PLUS

STEP 1 WINS 87
STEP 2 WINS 48
STEP 3 WINS 15
STEP 4 CURRENTLY UNCHALLENGED.

These results are garnered from playing the same TWO BY TWO strategy I employ for CODE 4. Contrary to what Superman and Bayes would have you believe. A, the method works. And you can paper test it until you are satisfied as such. I am not hear to lead anyone to losing. The exact opposite is my goal.

[warrior]

The one arm bandits are the profit makers for the casinos ,the percentage is high so rng roulette is no different . even testing in play mode you can see the difference.its like a blow up doll ,or you can have the real thing .Say what you what  ,i have heard it all ,can you tell the differnce between rng results and real wheel if posted BLA BLA BLA,GUYS GIVE UP THE DEBATES on roulette, you will be here for the next 100 years its like a record skipping ,play if you want use the systems there better than having no system at all in the end that is why we call it GAMBLING!.

[Bayes]

@ John,

What exactly is your objection to testing using a bot or simulation?

What is the difference between using a computer and manual testing, in your opinion?

The one arm bandits are the profit makers for the casinos ,the percentage is high so rng roulette is no different .

Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The % is calculated in the same way as on a real wheel. If it's just GAMBLING, then why bother to create systems at all? why not just scatter your chips over the table at random?

[Johnlegend]

Ah, of course, I was forgetting, the evil RNG takes all your bankroll. 

So John, is that your answer? It's all down to the RNG?  I'm not even sure that superman tested the system on a casino RNG, I think it was the built-in RNG in the programming language. In any case, that's a cop-out. I'm sure if  someone took the trouble to test your systems using actuals the results would be the same. I've tested some of them myself this way and got nowhere near your claimed win rate.

by the way, joiner just told us to "watch out for the betfair LIVE wheel".  There you have it; the system is never to blame, it's always the casino which is cheating you! 

To be honest, I'm surprised that superman bothers to bot these systems any more. Here we have someone with the skill to put them through a thorough test, and actually puts in the time and effort to do it, but does he get so much as a "thank you"?  there's always some excuse why the results are apparently invalid. Talk about shooting the messenger...

Bayes, I'm not disputing Supermans results. I can just do what I do and report my results. What have I to gain from lying?

Someone always seems to find a loss no matter what you give them. I'm sure if the progression was 7 steps someone would still report a loss.

I go with what I get. Playing Amks CODE 4 I was looking for a 1000/1. I didn't get there, it lost after 642 games two by two. Then someone else reported a winning of 1,300 games, more than double mine. But we are both liars because youd never get those nunbers at BV NO ZERO.

Or Random.org of course. So it goes on. You can't win for toffee, so that means nobody else does.

[warrior]

@ John,

What exactly is your objection to testing using a bot or simulation?

What is the difference between using a computer and manual testing, in your opinion?

Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The % is calculated in the same way as on a real wheel. If it's just GAMBLING, then why bother to create systems at all? why not just scatter your chips over the table at random?
[/quote I THINK YOU SHOULD GET MORE FACTS, and if you what to splatter all your chip all over the table go a head,the% is on all slot machines that make up a whole at the end of the month.

any time your money is on the line be it casino playing ,or buisness or stocks to me its all gambling ,you can can lose your money if you dont play the right way ,even millionares have gone bankrupt.

[Johnlegend]

The one arm bandits are the profit makers for the casinos ,the percentage is high so rng roulette is no different . even testing in play mode you can see the difference.its like a blow up doll ,or you can have the real thing .Say what you what  ,i have heard it all ,can you tell the differnce between rng results and real wheel if posted BLA BLA BLA,GUYS GIVE UP THE DEBATES on roulette, you will be here for the next 100 years its like a record skipping ,play if you want use the systems there better than having no system at all in the end that is why we call it GAMBLING!.

Warrior speaks the truth. No informed serious gambler will touch an RNG. Whether its BV NO ZERO or the seriously rigged machines at your local betting shop.

Anyone who tries to convince you theres no difference between an RNG or Live wheel is the real shill. I have seen things on an RNG you won't see on a live wheel if you lived forever.