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*THE MATRIX SLIDE*

Started by Johnlegend, Jul 21, 04:59 PM 2011

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superman

QuoteTWO BY TWO

John can you explain the above to me, you know, believe it or not, I think both Bayes and myself are looking for the same thing as everyone else here, speaking just for myself, I am looking for bottable methods that last, hit n run can be coded too, the only problem with hit n run in code is for how long does it wait to start a new attack, it can be a random number of spins no problem, but between how long and how long? if you are at a live wheel what difference is there between waiting 5 minutes or a day, there is no difference in my opinion, so what's your take on that?

I hope you'll answer those 2 questions, so I can test it exactly as you play progression wise and as near as possible to spin gaps as can be.

If you look at my results, had I played win 2 and run, that's a lot of win 2 and runs which would probably cover days at your pace, if you play 1 session a day that is, anyway, let's all move forward, we all know where we stand with each other, we're all chasing the same result.

Quote5 sessions of 2 games a day, smartlive casino & willhill live dealers
50 games,
49 wins (lost on the 45th game)
total -36

step 1 wins-35
step 2 wins-10
step 3 wins-3
step 4 wins-1

..will carry on testing & can share weekly updates if requested..

the claim of 1300 wins for Code 4 could do with being expanded upon I think - they were made at the end of July, only about 7 weeks after Code 4 was first presented - that's about 27 or 28 games a day if it had been played right from the off - not consistent surely with hit and run..

that's my experience anyway, maybe others who have not previously posted could show their results (if any)..
if I had to say my basic feeling though, it's that no bet selection can turn basically a 4-step grand martingale into a long-term winner, hit and run or otherwise.

but good luck to all anyway!

Thanks Monaco, an honest post, everyone needs to see others results, I think some just bloat their results for self image (I don't know off hand who had the 1300) nobody wants be known as a loser and others enjoy the congrats attention, we're all different!
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

F_LAT_INO

Well JL,
First time here....just to say those maths guys are talking
true.......no method or system will work on 1000000.....but
what they don't know is that some of these methods work
on daily basis play,and they can not know this if not playing
on such basis...but only testing,testing mill.of spins believing
nothing works.They are after a bot method that would beat
rng BV...so they can sit back and watch how theirs bank account
is rising up.One must play to find out the truth...and the truth is
there are several methods/for int.3 out of 9 versions PCWB/
with which I'm winning constantly on the daily basis rules.
That's why I state here that you know what you are about.

You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

superman

Quoteon the daily basis rules

What rule do you follow? how many spins have passed, does the table sleep for x hours, do they close, what is your rule F_LAT_INO
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Aug 05, 02:38 PM 2011

John can you explain the above to me, you know, believe it or not, I think both Bayes and myself are looking for the same thing as everyone else here, speaking just for myself, I am looking for bottable methods that last, hit n run can be coded too, the only problem with hit n run in code is for how long does it wait to start a new attack, it can be a random number of spins no problem, but between how long and how long? if you are at a live wheel what difference is there between waiting 5 minutes or a day, there is no difference in my opinion, so what's your take on that?

I hope you'll answer those 2 questions, so I can test it exactly as you play progression wise and as near as possible to spin gaps as can be.

If you look at my results, had I played win 2 and run, that's a lot of win 2 and runs which would probably cover days at your pace, if you play 1 session a day that is, anyway, let's all move forward, we all know where we stand with each other, we're all chasing the same result.
 
Thanks Monaco, an honest post, everyone needs to see others results, I think some just bloat their results for self image (I don't know off hand who had the 1300) nobody wants be known as a loser and others enjoy the congrats attention, we're all different!
Its not possible to explain why it works, it just does. Its also not possible to convince a mindset that needs math based explanations for everything.

THINK for a moment. Do you really think its not possible to fall between losses more than on them. By randomly entering the cycle? that's all there is to it.

If it hadnt worked for me I'm not going to come on a forum and push it. And the bigger the paper odds the greater the potential. PATTERN BREAKER has paper odds of 7/1 but played HIT AND RUN I have consistently achieved double that.

CODE 4 has paper odds of 80/1 And I just hit 642 straight wins.

PAPER ODDS OF 242? Yes you could lose on your very first go. Then not again for 1,000 games. that's THE POINT. You are entering the cycle randomly. LOSSES ARE OCCURING whether you, me or Atlantis are playing or not.

I am simply documenting my performance/results. If there were an easier faster way Id be there. What I do simply works. I'm not gaining anything from coming on here and sharing this Superman.

In fact I'm at a point of stepping back. I've got serious money to make for next year. At the end of the day you overestimate this all anyway.

If this forum has 10,000 plus members. Not even 50 of them are playing any of these methods. I understand human nature. I'm no fool Superman.

People are fickle, and never more so than when they are literally handed a goldmine. We are all brought up to believe nobody outside of your family gives you anything of value for free in this world.

So theres inherent mistrust and doubt from the get go towards any world beating method offered up on this or any forum.

TWO BY TWO simply means I play for two wins a session. THEN SHUT IT DOWN.

To illustrate the worth had I played even FIVE BY FIVE for CODE 4. I would have lost 8x 80 units. Or basicaly BROKEN EVEN.

Johnlegend

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 05, 03:00 PM 2011
Well JL,
First time here....just to say those maths guys are talking
true.......no method or system will work on 1000000.....but
what they don't know is that some of these methods work
on daily basis play,and they can not know this if not playing
on such basis...but only testing,testing mill.of spins believing
nothing works.They are after a bot method that would beat
rng BV...so they can sit back and watch how theirs bank account
is rising up.One must play to find out the truth...and the truth is
there are several methods/for int.3 out of 9 versions PCWB/
with which I'm winning constantly on the daily basis rules.
That's why I state here that you know what you are about.
Thankyou for your input Flatino, Its hard for them to dissect the difference, I understand that. But maybe me only entering the cycle ten times a day plays a part.

superman

QuoteDo you really think its not possible to fall between losses more than on them. By randomly entering the cycle

No I don't, I agree with it 100% it is possible.

QuoteIts hard for them to dissect the difference

See above.

QuoteBut maybe me only entering the cycle ten times a day plays a part

There's part of an answer, so if a wheel spins 500 times a day you play every 50 spins or so, so the wheel you play, how many spins per day does it get? on average of course
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Bayes

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 05, 03:00 PM 2011
Well JL,
First time here....just to say those maths guys are talking
true.......no method or system will work on 1000000.....but
what they don't know is that some of these methods work
on daily basis play,and they can not know this if not playing
on such basis...but only testing,testing mill.of spins believing
nothing works.They are after a bot method that would beat
rng BV...so they can sit back and watch how theirs bank account
is rising up.

Where did I say that no system will work over 1 M spins? you're also ASSUMING that I don't play on a daily basis. Also, I object to being called a "math guy". I might use maths, but I'm not dogmatic about it like some of the advantage players I could mention (like Herb). They insist that you could get 100 reds in a row, (and this is RANDOM) but at the same time take it that a certain number of standard deviations from the mean tells you there is a bias! They want it both ways.

FYI, I DO play on a regular basis - a couple of hours every weekday, and I don't use any particular systems exclusively, rather I mix 'n' match various bet selections and progressions. It's a grind, but I'm doing ok thanks.

Also, I've seen several systems (and coded a couple) that have won over a million spins. So it can be done. In the meantime, I play a combination of "losing" systems, and that has served me pretty well so far.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Aug 05, 03:23 PM 2011

No I don't, I agree with it 100% it is possible.
 
See above.
 
There's part of an answer, so if a wheel spins 500 times a day you play every 50 spins or so, so the wheel you play, how many spins per day does it get? on average of course
Online Superman, the wheels spin 24/7
About 50 spins per hour.

superman

Why wont you answer, how often do you play your 2 win attacks?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

warrior

Quote from: Bayes on Aug 05, 12:15 PM 2011
Isn't that the point? what is the "RIGHT way"?
what ever makes you money.

amk

BAYES

""I DO play on a regular basis - a couple of hours every weekday, and I don't use any particular systems exclusively, rather I mix 'n' match various bet selections and progressions. It's a grind, but I'm doing ok thanks.

Also, I've seen several systems (and coded a couple) that have won over a million spins. So it can be done. In the meantime, I play a combination of "losing" systems, and that has served me pretty well so far.""



I think we are finally getting somewhere...........

Ladies and gentlemen, the methods that we have before us are the best roulette has ever seen....

I think we, as the great players would say, should only play several methods per day HIT AND RUN.........

JohnLegend has been kind enough to inform us of his winning streaks for his first games played of the day..........

Just play 5 methods per day and watch the winning streaks...........

P.S.
Bayes you have 642 posts, JohnLegends win streak for CODE 4 was 647....... :)


Johnlegend

Quote from: superman on Aug 05, 04:09 PM 2011
Why won't you answer, how often do you play your 2 win attacks?
I play them whenever I want Superman that's the point. I typically rise 6am in the morning. So I might play my first session early. Then another one 30 minutes later. Then go about my business have breakfast. And play the third session 2 hours later. There is no set time.
The only set rule is there must be no more than 2 games in a session. You are closing the door on random fast. And the reason I know it works is because (especially for CODE 4) I always recorded 5 games every session. Even though I only played the first 2. Now if I had played all 5 up to this day. I would have 8 losses for CODE 4 instead of 1.

Its the same with PATTERN BREAKER and DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Played continually. I cannot break beyond 7/1-----8/1. Play HIT AND RUN. I consistently achieve 12/1---15/1 for Pattern Breaker. And 10/1---12/1 for Divide and Conquer. that's all the proof I need. Although Pattern Breakers GOLDEN NUGGET. Isnt so much its strikerate rather its SINGLE LOSS CONSISTENCY.

I have NEVER lost two consecutive games in 3 years and several thousand games. And now that I play HIGH LOW---ODD EVEN SIMULTANEOUSLY. That is even less likely to ever happen. What that means is yes it will lose. But I have the confidence to recover over half the loss in the VERY NEXT GAME. This is what Bayes doesn't take onboard.

Its not simply about overcoming the progression. Its about finding the consistent powerpoint of your method. I always used to hear gamblers talk of this so called DOWNTURN in fortune. When you would hit a losing streak of several losses that would wipe out your entire BR.

Well Bayes, Superman. Are you telling me a method for only 7 units risk that doesn't lose twice, or if it does is so rare its of no significance. HAS NO MERIT? Revise that chain of thought Bayes. I would never fawn over a method and push it if I wasn't aware of its power.

I recognised the value of AMKS CODE 4 immediately. And it has far surpassed my expectations. I would be happy with 160/1 Its delivering far in excess of that.
And I am sure THE MATRIX SLIDE will do at least 160/1 PLAYED TWO BY TWO. Its almost there already. A good method APPLIED PROPERLY, DEFEATS ROULETTE EVERYTIME.
You think outside of the layout, and INSIDE THE MATRIX. When I observe these idiots who cry fix, magnets must be under the wheel, because they saw the ball hit the same dozen 10 times. Or the same even chance 18 times. I don't have to wonder why the mainstream will never dent this game. Its a specialist endeavour that only the few with the right tools will ever conquer consistently.

GOOD METHOD

SUPREME MONEY MANAGEMENT

DISCIPLINED MINDSET

Any of those three missing. Forget it you don't win over the long haul. Take up checkers and hope your numbers drop in your National Lottery....

amk

Hello JohnLegend,

It might be interesting to record PATTERN BREAKER for dozens and columns while you are playing PATTERN BREAKER for H/L O/E......



Johnlegend

Quote from: amk on Aug 05, 08:35 PM 2011
Hello JohnLegend,

It might be interesting to record PATTERN BREAKER for dozens and columns while you are playing PATTERN BREAKER for H/L O/E......
Mmm, sounds like a plan AMK. Give me an example of how you would execute it...

Bayes

Quote from: warrior on Aug 05, 05:10 PM 2011
what ever makes you money.

That's just playing with words. "what ever makes you money" is the "right way" and the "right way" is "what ever makes you money". It says nothing about how to play or why it should work.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

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