Sure you´re not interested.(as usual)
Just wanted to show these Results
Looks good , like to tell us about it ?
Quote from: 2BobBet on Apr 29, 11:51 AM 2020
Looks good , like to tell us about it ?
it´s the Repeats-system, just with a different setting/progression..
The problem is that if you start playing at 600k spin and finish at 700k spin, you'd be losing 60k units.
Otherwise you will win.
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 11:33 AM 2020
Sure you´re not interested.(as usual)
Just wanted to show these Results
You should start playing for real money.
As long as your progression are realistic.
Quote from: Winner on Apr 29, 01:39 PM 2020
You should start playing for real money.
As long as your progression are realistic.
This one, best played with a BOT, (because of the many numbers to be tracked) ...progression is according to table-limits (MAXBET 100u).
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 01:56 PM 2020
This one, best played with a BOT, (because of the many numbers to be tracked) ...progression is according to table-limits (MAXBET 100u).
Have you tried it flat bet? I'm asking because the graph doesn't look bad at all
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Apr 29, 02:02 PM 2020
Have you tried it flat bet? I'm asking because the graph doesn't look bad at all
hmm..not with this settings..perhaps i should try ..im doin another run now (1M spins) it takes some time, i will try that later, ok
BTW, the code is already posted in the other thread. (for those with little coding skills you can modify and test yourself...with different settings)..now i added the amount of "hotnumbers"...also progression is little different etc
Ignatus, while I appreciate your efforts into coding this thing, I will say the same thing that others have already mentioned - it is fundamentally flawed.
The only way to have an edge and to win in the long run, is to increase the accuracy of your predictions. The repeater bets have no better accuracy than random bets. Progression is only going to distort this.
You should not be using any progression, unless if you an actual edge.
Quote from: winforus on Apr 29, 02:25 PM 2020The repeater bets have no better accuracy than random bets.
Really? well we see about that.
Now, testing Flatbet (The bet IS 35 Hotnumbers) That will be about 18 number bet.
For the Disbelievers i post the code. (That im running now) ok (i don´t know how this chart will look after 1M spins) Now, i am FLATBETTING. so get real? i cant promise anything about "FLATBET" ok
RX.code
System "Last 10 Repeater"
// © ignatus 2020 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List [1]
//,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,22,24,26,30,35,40,45,50,55,65,75,85,100]
{5,5,5,10,10,10,15,15,15,20,20,20,25,25,25,30,30,30,35,35,35,40,40,40,45,45,45,50,50,55,55,60,60,65,65,70,70,
75,75,80,80,85,85,90,90,95,95,
100,105,110,115,120,125,130,135,140,145,150,155,160,165,170,175,180,185,190,195,200,210,220,230,240,250,260,
270,280,290,300,325,350,375,400,425,450,475,500]
}
//1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32,64,128,256,512,1024]
to Record "progression" Data
end
while on each spin
begin
copy last Number to Record "last1" layout
if any inside bet lost each
begin
if total inside bets count >= 4 each
begin
//add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
clear Record "bet" Layout
reset all flags false
end
end
if any inside bet won each
begin
clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
clear Record "bet" Layout
reset all flags false
// add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
{ subtract 2 from Record "progression" Data Index
if Record "progression" Data Index <= 0 each
begin
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
}
if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
// clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
end
end
If Record "Last1" layout is found within Record "Last10" layout each
begin
if total inside bets count <= 24 each
begin
Set Max to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
Add 1 to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout Index
copy Record "last1" layout to Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
duplicate Record "Hotnumbers" to Record "bet"
end
{ if Record "Hotnumbers" Layout count = 46 each
begin
clear Record "Hotnumbers" Layout
end
}
if record "Hotnumbers" layout count >= 35 each
begin
set flag "bet" true
end
end
if flag "bet" true each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet" layout list
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
reset all flags false
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
{
if bankroll >= 750 each time
begin
stop session
end
if bankroll <= -1500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
Track last number for 10 spins to
Record "last10" layout
end
END
Why is crashing after 600K like that? Also what language/code you are using to run it? (I'm new here).
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 11:33 AM 2020
Sure you´re not interested.(as usual)
Just wanted to show these Results
Quote from: meow on Apr 29, 02:37 PM 2020
Why is crashing after 600K like that? Also what language/code you are using to run it? (I'm new here).
ITs because of the "recovery procedure"... (it wont RESET progression Until it reach a new high..) RX (Roulette Xtreme coding)
I just gave away a "holy grail system" now passed 200 000 spins FLATBET.....owell owell, im a fool, as usual. :question:
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 02:49 PM 2020
I just gave away a "holy grail system" now passed 200 000 spins FLATBET.....owell owell, im a fool, as usual. :question:
so far...hmm
Quote from: winforus on Apr 29, 02:25 PM 2020The repeater bets have no better accuracy than random bets.
Oh really??????? That's a good one! :))))
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 02:57 PM 2020
so far...hmm
What hm. 267 000 SPINS and win 900 units? 267 000 spins around with a every day 200 spins/8hour is 3 and half year continuosly playing every day 8 hours. Rather work...
Ignatus, I said many times, that all your systems will crash. Why you searchin all your systems with cyrcle? Why u use tese progressions like 1 2 5 15 25 45 105? Rather build up a strategy. I did these codings around 2 years ago for 2 motnhs, then I admitted, that all will crash. Do yu wanna do this in your whole life? Wha is your goal ? Every new day you post new losing HG with horrible pictures. I dont wanna to make you fold up this, I respect you for your work, I jsut wanna help you, that in thsi way you will neevr get the winning method, if you wull not sticck to your best method, and make it winner with STRATEGY, WINGOALS, PLANS etcc etc etc. Finding a winning way is hard, but if yo uwill circle your methods roundly the same again and again, it will move you absolutely nowhere.
Jus an advice..and yes I know the answer. ..(yes? well? ..)
regards
ekko
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 29, 03:15 PM 2020What hm. 267 000 SPINS
Well. mr. Eko, pls show me a FLATBET system that pass 250 000 random spins (with a positive outcome) -__-
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 03:20 PM 2020
Well. mr. Eko, pls show me a FLATBET system that pass 250 000 random spins (with a positive outcome) -__-
And what? You drop it down, and bring tomorrow another HG.
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 29, 03:26 PM 2020
And what? You drop it down, and bring tomorrow another HG.
if you got nothing better to say, then pls stop talking or create your own thread/system thank you.
Quote from: ignatus on Apr 29, 03:34 PM 2020
if you got nothing better to say, then pls stop talking or create your own thread/system thank you.
Ok. Hope once you will realize that I am right, and then maybe you will be close to the real milking method. And of course not with 1 5 25 65 100 300 500 1300. Until then this will lead you nowhere.
Peace.
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 29, 03:51 PM 2020
Ok. Hope once you will realize that I am right, and then maybe you will be close to the real milking method. And of course not with 1 5 25 65 100 300 500 1300. Until then this will lead you nowhere.
Peace.
I am FLATBETTING now. pls......just give up now.
ignatus, people don't want to attack you, but it's pretty obvious that you have an addiction. Don't take that in a negative way, most people have addictions or bad habits that they can't stop. Just look at how many years you have been posting systems, but yo will never find a winner.
I'm sure deep down you know that an actual winning system chart is not a sine wave that happens to be in the positive when you stop the simulation. And no one, not even you would play the same system for real money for tens of thousands of spins just to break even, because you 'know' that after 100 thousand spins you will be in the positive. And as I said long time ago, a human cannot play the same way as a simulation does. The RX doesn't care if you lost 2 months salary in the past 10 thousand spins, when the progression gets out of hand, it can bet your month's salary without hesitation.
Quote from: ati on Apr 29, 04:12 PM 2020human cannot play the same way as a simulation does.
That´s correct. This system is meant to play with a RX-BOT since tracking time takes too long.
IGNATUS, i'm watching you for a long time as you are trying to find a winning system.
I respect your efforts and your contribution to this forum.
But i think you are making 2 major mistakes:
1. Most of your systems have extremely offensive progressions which nobody is willing to bet.
2. You base your systems exclusively on the long run of hundrends of thousands of spins without watching the short run chops.
What I mean is this:
I don't care if a system in 400.000 spins will be a winning system, even though if the line is going continuslyy up, because if untill we reach the 400.000 spins there are too many chops of let's say 100 spins where we lose all our bankroll, and if those chops are many times continuous, this system is useless.
Nobody can play 400.000 spins if in the meantime he will lose hundreds of times all his bankroll, even if he knows that in the end he will win.
But if he knows that e.g. in 10 sessions of let's say 50 - 100 spins the winning sessions will be more than the losing sessions, and the money he will earn from the winning sessions will be more than the money he will lose from the losing sessions, he will play it.
What I'm trying to say is that not only you, but everybody who tests systems on RX are doing this mistake:
They care for the line to go up for hundrends of thousands of spins without observing the chops of e.g. 100 spins.
A human being, if plays every day systematically roulette in order to win, he can play only for some hours per day, some dozens of sessions of 30 or 50 or 100 spins. No more.
So what matters is not observing a huge line of 400.000 spins, but observing hundreds of lines of e.g. one or two dozens of sessions of 50-100 spins each. No more.
So, I think maybe all of you RX guru with your priceless contribution to this forum , should review your kind of test.
Try to focus testing the systems on how many spins a systematic player can play per day. For example hundreds of continuous sessions of e.g. 100 spins until reach 500 - 1000 spins. End of test. Test again another 500 - 1.000 spins. And so on.....
Just my humble opinion.
Thanks again IGNATUS for your efforts so many years , I'll keep watching you with great interest as i do so many years so far.
IGNATUS you are a programmer right? In theory, you should be be very good at math and have solid fundamentals under your belt.
It doesn't make sense to me, that you don't seem to understand the basics of roulette - odds and payouts. Maybe Ati is right and you have an addiction - which is blinding you from seeing some basic things.
Where you are going is a dead-end, unfortunately. My advise is to hit a reset button, and be honest with yourself -and go back to learning the basics/fundamentals. The time that you are wasting on creating these systems (that all fail and will fail in practice), could be put for better use. You need to sit down and really re-evaluate some things.
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 29, 03:51 PM 2020
Ok. Hope once you will realize that I am right, and then maybe you will be close to the real milking method. And of course not with 1 5 25 65 100 300 500 1300. Until then this will lead you nowhere.
Peace.
It would be great if you tell us more about your so-called “real milking methodsâ€
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 30, 05:46 AM 2020
It would be great if you tell us more about your so-called “real milking methodsâ€
:xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Please don't post self-love instructions.
Quote from: Steve on Apr 30, 06:31 AM 2020
Please don't post self-love instructions.
:xd: :xd: :xd: Not even selfie-love instructions
Quote from: winforus on Apr 30, 04:58 AM 2020
IGNATUS you are a programmer right? In theory, you should be be very good at math and have solid fundamentals under your belt.
It doesn't make sense to me, that you don't seem to understand the basics of roulette - odds and payouts. Maybe Ati is right and you have an addiction - which is blinding you from seeing some basic things.
Where you are going is a dead-end, unfortunately. My advise is to hit a reset button, and be honest with yourself -and go back to learning the basics/fundamentals. The time that you are wasting on creating these systems (that all fail and will fail in practice), could be put for better use. You need to sit down and really re-evaluate some things.
From what I have read he doesn't seem to care. His passion in life is to make roulette system, regardless if they win or not.
Fir a normal person, It is hard to get in the mind if someone who believes 1+1=3.
"IGNATUS, i'm watching you for a long time as you are trying to find a winning system.
I respect your efforts and your contribution to this forum.
But i think you are making 2 major mistakes:"
I agree with this comment but keep trying Ignatus.
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 29, 03:26 PM 2020
And what? You drop it down, and bring tomorrow another HG.
You must be in the petty and entitled faction I just described.
...
I can do program any logic and then test that on bulk of data.Means all spins in a file and just upload in system .I will do this free if someone has really a better logic .
Quote from: Elite on May 01, 09:01 AM 2020
I can do program any logic and then test that on bulk of data.Means all spins in a file and just upload in system .I will do this free if someone has really a better logic .
I don´t understand what you mean by this? I clearly explained the rules. You wait for X number for ("Repeats") After X Numbers of Repeats (in this case best results was (14-15 Repeats) 15 that is) THEN you will bet ALL numbers that have Been noted down (
ALL numbers Hit by the 15 REPEATS from the Last 10 spins)
Ignatus if you focused on new approaches, you'd have a better chance of finding the hg.
You're still trying approaches that are guaranteed to lose, because you don't understand why.
All your time is being wasted. You're beating off a dead horse.
Steve , do you know if there are any spin database that tell other variables than the landing nr, such as the nr where the ball was released or spinning time?
I have lots of that from players, 100k+ but i cant use that data for a few reasons. You are on the right track. You never know what variables are actually predictable enough and which count. It isnt always obvious.
Quote from: Steve on May 01, 07:54 PM 2020
Ignatus if you focused on new approaches, you'd have a better chance of finding the hg.
You're still trying approaches that are guaranteed to lose, because you don't understand why.
All your time is being wasted. You're beating off a dead horse.
Yes. He has to understand, that winrate means nothing, useless to write 80-90% winrate, while the 10-20% take all winnings back. 6-7 years, and doing the same, just does not want to learn, or accept the fact, what we are saying here.
Quote from: Mister Eko on May 02, 05:28 AM 2020He has to understand, that winrate means nothing
I keep telling him that, but he believes it's the most important thing about a system. I think he just likes creating and testing systems, and nothing wrong with that I suppose. Maybe we're being too hard on him? Everyone should have a hobby. ;D
95% of people here are in no position to criticize his methods. Theirs make the same mistakes.
Ok, lemme see. Ignatus uses a bot to get a high hit-rate.
Steve sells a computer. Not much difference I'd say.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 02, 07:26 AM 2020Not much difference I'd say.
There's a world of difference. The fact that both use computers is a red-herring, because either approach could be applied without one. Steve uses proven principles of physics to predict the next spin whereas Ignatus uses - what? past spins and progressions based on fallacies. It's chalk and cheese.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 02, 07:26 AM 2020
Ok, lemme see. Ignatus uses a bot to get a high hit-rate.
Steve sells a computer. Not much difference I'd say.
Wow ok. If you want a high hit rate, just bet every number.
If you want random bet accuracy, use almost every system, including yours and ingatus'.
If you want to change the odds and win consistently, consider cause and effect, as AP does.
Big difference. Learn the basics.
And my computers be purchased, but any serious player can get them free and split winnings.
If you want random bet accuracy, use almost every system, including yours and Ignatus'.-Steve
I do ok. Haven't lost a dime of my own money in years.
Quote from: Joe on May 02, 08:00 AM 2020
Steve uses proven principles of physics to predict the next spin
Can you be specific tell us what proven physics you talk about?
Physics and equations, not bs.
Sure. There is plenty of detailed technical stuff here :
link:://:.roulette.gmxhome.de/index.html
Download the PDF which covers the relevant differential equations etc from the bottom of this page (roulettephysics) :
link:://:.roulette.gmxhome.de/theory.htm
More here :
link:s://:.newscientist.com/article/mg21428644-500-roulette-beater-spills-physics-behind-victory/
And here is the paper by Small & Tse, who are mentioned in the above article :
link:://cktse.eie.polyu.edu.hk/pdf-paper/Chaos-1209.pdf
Quote from: cht on May 02, 12:50 PM 2020Physics and equations, not bs.
You dont need to understand the equations. Just observe things like dominant diamonds. But you don't need to have dominant diamonds for an edge, although other calculations must be done, and other requirements met.
i think most players here should focus on the basics of roulette for now. They still aren't being understood by about 80% of people here.
Quote from: Joe on May 02, 02:19 PM 2020
Sure. There is plenty of detailed technical stuff here :
link:://:.roulette.gmxhome.de/index.html
Download the PDF which covers the relevant differential equations etc from the bottom of this page (roulettephysics) :
link:://:.roulette.gmxhome.de/theory.htm
You somehow believe rc algos for sale run such physics differential equations.
I believe not.
And you know i'm right.
Cht, those documents explain the physics. The algorithms are quite different. Most computers have very basic algorithms. Besides, just look at things like dominant diamonds and vb. its not rocket science ya know.
Quote from: cht on May 02, 11:23 PM 2020You somehow believe rc algos for sale run such physics differential equations.
I believe not.
And you know i'm right.
Nice bait and switch. You asked for equations, I gave you equations. Stop trolling.
Equations often make even simple ideas look complex, and any formulas can be implemented as algorithms.
You claim to have a winning system so why are you determined to trash AP? Why not just be happy that you're winning? And if you want recognition for your achievement you know what to do.
Quote from: Joe on May 03, 03:50 AM 2020
You claim to have a winning system so why are you determined to trash AP? Why not just be happy that you're winning? And if you want recognition for your achievement you know what to do.
My purpose is not to trash AP.
AP at the level that's discussed on forums is rubbish.
RC for sale without physics differential equations.
Now people reading this know the truth.
I revealed the spin for spin watered down game version to one member on this forum. I believe he's challenged how I played the session. Remember, wins flatbet.
(Note - you hv my permission to discuss with your private group)
The solution is beyond ordinary folks.
No desire to gain recognition on forum boards.
Profits is my validation.
Delete
Cht, what experience do you have with roulette computers?
None at all, right?
Quote from: cht on May 03, 10:45 AM 2020
My purpose is not to trash AP.
AP at the level that's discussed on forums is rubbish.
RC for sale without physics differential equations.
Now people reading this know the truth.
I revealed the spin for spin watered down game version to one member on this forum. I believe he's challenged how I played the session. Remember, wins flatbet.
(Note - you hv my permission to discuss with your private group)
The solution is beyond ordinary folks.
No desire to gain recognition on forum boards.
Profits is my validation.
Revealed to a 2nd member, I'm in generous mood.
Let's see if they can build upon it.
Quote from: Steve on May 03, 11:28 AM 2020
Cht, what experience do you have with roulette computers?
None at all, right?
Cht you avoided the question.