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Poll
Question: Who would you vote for president?
Option 1: Trump votes: 4
Option 2: Biden votes: 2
Option 3: Neither votes: 2
Title: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 06, 08:10 PM 2020
Who would you vote for president?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 07, 10:16 AM 2020
I vote for civil war now.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 07, 12:19 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 07, 10:16 AM 2020
I vote for civil war now.

"Get off my lawn, you dirty hippies" 2020 edition.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 07, 12:29 PM 2020
These people mean business. This is not the 60's all over again. They are brainwashed by people that deliberately lied to them in order to overthrow the establishment. Instead of twenty years from now when they would have the majority votes they want it now. Big mistake though. There are still enough of us with the knowledge of history to put them down. I think we might have to.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 07, 12:31 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 07, 12:29 PM 2020
These people mean business. This is not the 60's all over again. They are brainwashed by people that deliberately lied to them in order to overthrow the establishment. Instead of twenty years from now when they would have the majority votes they want it now. Big mistake though. There are still enough of us with the knowledge of history to put them down. I think we might have to.

Jimmy Dore would have a field day with you.  You're quite a character.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 07, 12:57 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Sep 07, 12:31 PM 2020Jimmy Dore would have a field day with you.  You're quite a character.
I'm not dumb enough to play pretend. The time of talking is just people making money off of talking. These anarchists are starting to play for real.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 09:16 AM 2020
The dumb rioters are just destroying their own cities. 13% of our population is African American, and they account for about half the murders. 50 bodies can pile up in Chicago every week due to black on black crime (this is never reported or made a big issue by anyone, like the media), but one African American gets shot for reaching for a knife by a white cop and this warrants idiots to burn down the city (the media paints the African American criminal as if he is a victim).

All the while, the people who look at it from my perspective can paint all these protesters and the media as the real racists, because the races of these suspects have nothing to do with why they were shot. If you are white or black and shoot a cop with a taser or attempt to reach for a knife (after resisting arrest in both cases), then you are asking for a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 10:57 AM 2020
Don't you know that these riots are organized. Antifa & BLM are sending people out to new cities. Idiot mayors are playing pretend utopia. Gangsters are swooping in to looting smash and grab opportunities. It all serves the same purpose, chaos.  This is a manufactured crisis. "Never let a crisis go to waste."
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 11:03 AM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 08, 09:16 AM 2020(this is never reported or made a big issue by anyone, like the media), but one African American gets shot for reaching for a knife by a white cop and this warrants idiots to burn down the city (the media paints the African American criminal as if he is a victim).

All the while, the people who look at it from my perspective can paint all these protesters and the media as the real racists, because the races of these suspects have nothing to do with why they were shot.
But these things are not happening to white folks or at least I do not think that they are.

I rethought my thoughts, and hope I am not wrong.

Do you know about this: like how you take another opportunity on multiple choice tests, but stats show that people's initial instinct (1st guess/answer) was correct (by a significant margin). But this is no multiple choice test, so I don't know if this applies.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 11:06 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 10:57 AM 2020Don't you know that these riots are organized. Antifa & BLM are sending people out to new cities. Idiot mayors are playing pretend utopia. Gangsters are swooping in to looting smash and grab opportunities. It all serves the same purpose, chaos.  This is a manufactured crisis. "Never let a crisis go to waste."
Do u think government leaders should send in National Guard to quickly end disorder??? If I was businessman with business in such area, I would want national guard to protect my stuff. Isn't it more than just stuff. I mean, if someone destroys your livelihood and business/income, you can wind up killing yourself or something.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 12:55 PM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 08, 11:06 AM 2020Do u think government leaders should send in National Guard to quickly end disorder??? If I was businessman with business in such area, I would want national guard to protect my stuff. Isn't it more than just stuff. I mean, if someone destroys your livelihood and business/income, you can wind up killing yourself or something.
The offers are standing on the table. It's the mayors & governors of whacked out liberal cities and states that must ask for the help first. Trump can't act until the jerks that people like you get elected ask for federal help. It's called Federalism.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 08, 02:53 PM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 08, 09:16 AM 2020
The dumb rioters are just destroying their own cities. 13% of our population is African American, and they account for about half the murders. 50 bodies can pile up in Chicago every week due to black on black crime (this is never reported or made a big issue by anyone, like the media), but one African American gets shot for reaching for a knife by a white cop and this warrants idiots to burn down the city (the media paints the African American criminal as if he is a victim).

All the while, the people who look at it from my perspective can paint all these protesters and the media as the real racists, because the races of these suspects have nothing to do with why they were shot. If you are white or black and shoot a cop with a taser or attempt to reach for a knife (after resisting arrest in both cases), then you are asking for a lot of trouble.

This.  MSNBC, CNN v FOX.  Two sides of the same coin.   Causing division.

I'm not sure when the Black community will ever address inner city violence (majority of Black crimes are committed towards it's own community). 

I'm not sure the police state will ever address historically canonized brutality against  the Black community.

No media on both sides (lib v cons) will ever concede.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 06:13 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 12:55 PM 2020Trump can't act until the jerks that people like you get elected
I voted all republicans. You just called Trump and all the republicans jerks. It seems like there is something wrong with you. You can review all my previous posts to see this was all so obvious, and I said it multiple times.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 06:16 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 12:55 PM 2020Trump can't act
U just recently said that the president can wave a magic wand and do whatever/just go above the law, like Obama did with Obamacare. So, why doesn't Trump overrule the democratic mayors if he truly cares about the violence?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 08, 06:21 PM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Sep 08, 02:53 PM 2020This.  MSNBC, CNN v FOX.  Two sides of the same coin.   Causing division.
I wonder if both these sides (conservative vs. liberal media) are funded by the same people/elitists.
If so, it would probably be a great indication that there are so many brainwashed individuals walking around our country.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 07:13 PM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 08, 06:16 PM 2020U just recently said that the president can wave a magic wand and do whatever/just go above the law, like Obama did with Obamacare. So, why doesn't Trump overrule the democratic mayors if he truly cares about the violence?
There are specific laws restricting Trump from bringing the national guard into any state.  There were no laws restricting Obama from letting the "Dreamers" stay.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 07:15 PM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 08, 06:13 PM 2020I voted all republicans. You just called Trump and all the republicans jerks. It seems like there is something wrong with you. You can review all my previous posts to see this was all so obvious, and I said it multiple times.
You win the war of words. Now go jump in a lake. Anyone can see that you are an uninformed voter.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 08:29 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 08, 07:15 PM 2020Anyone can see that you are an uninformed voter.
This statement is false at its core. Everyone should know that.

I look at both sides and read between the lines; I am the type of voter that a true politician wants. A corrupt politician or one who truly doesn't care would just want you to blindly follow whatever CNN or Fox News says and place your bet/vote.

Trump would respect my vote more than your vote, because I make real decisions based on facts and logic. You follow what is spoon feed to your brain by biased republican media alone.

I wouldn't want you to jump in a lake, because intelligent people actually care about others. You are a nut.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:52 AM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 09, 08:29 AM 2020I wouldn't want you to jump in a lake, because intelligent people actually care about others. You are a nut.
I'm glad your life is so rewarding by your standards. You think you have your shit together but you are just making stuff up as you go along hoping it will impress people that you really don't even care about. You are trapped. If you knew what was going on you would know voting records and false claims made at election times. You don't know these very important things. You believe in global warming. You believe the crap taught regarding critical race theory. You believe that Trump lies all the time. You listen to fake news and can't tell what the truth is. All anyone has to do is read what you have said for the past few weeks. Steve already outed you.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 10:59 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:52 AM 2020You believe in global warming.
Okay. You make a great point. So I guess I just follow fantasy and fiction, while you are the one who follows science, logic, and facts. You just keep saying the same thing I have been saying my whole life and make these false claims that I am taking the other side.

I'm not going to dump a bunch of resources into trying to reverse the natural cycle of the earth heating up like you want to. (This is what I said and you will claim that you are for this, and I am against this). Stop stealing all my former beliefs and acting like they're yours. Have an original idea for once.

Go jump in a river. No. I'm not trying to drown you; I'm just trying to teach you how to swim.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 11:06 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:52 AM 2020Steve already outed you.
U really want to bring up Steve in an argument between me and u. PATHETIC!!!! HAHAHA
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:07 AM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 09, 11:06 AM 2020U really want to bring up Steve in an argument between me and u. PATHETIC!!!! HAHAHA
Sure. Steve made a monkey out you you.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 11:11 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:07 AM 2020Sure. Steve made a monkey out you you.
You just want to bring up the operator of this site trying to get me to say something that will restrict my account. Since we are not allowed to insult people, I will say this. I would be a brain dead retard if I believed either one of you regarding anything that has to do with roulette.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 11:16 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:07 AM 2020Steve made a monkey out you you.
Did any other crooks say anything about me?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:21 AM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 09, 11:16 AM 2020Did any other crooks say anything about me?
Nothing nice. Being an idiot doesn't get much respect.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 12:23 PM 2020
U keep making up excuses in ur head to keep coming on here when really you're looking for the next dopamine rush. U say to urself, "what's he gonna say next?", "how is he gonna respond now?"

Go ahead and make fun of me for touting the truth; I don't care anymore. If you find solace in your fake fox news that is like an anti-fact vaccine, then turn it on.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 09, 12:27 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:21 AM 2020Nothing nice. Being an idiot doesn't get much respect.
Now you care about being nice after calling me names like a fifth grader for the past x amount of days.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 12:48 PM 2020
Exhibit A:

Quote from: pepper on Sep 09, 12:23 PM 2020Go ahead and make fun of me for touting the truth; I don't care anymore. If you find solace in your fake fox news that is like an anti-fact vaccine, then turn it on.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 09, 12:51 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:52 AM 2020
I'm glad your life is so rewarding by your standards. You think you have your shit together but you are just making stuff up as you go along hoping it will impress people that you really don't even care about. You are trapped. If you knew what was going on you would know voting records and false claims made at election times. You don't know these very important things. You believe in global warming. You believe the crap taught regarding critical race theory. You believe that Trump lies all the time. You listen to fake news and can't tell what the truth is. All anyone has to do is read what you have said for the past few weeks. Steve already outed you.

Did I mention you're a tool?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: winforus on Sep 09, 06:47 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 11:07 AM 2020
Sure. Steve made a monkey out you you.

Did you forget that Steve made a monkey out of you and your RR? Your RR is full of shit according to Steve!

Quote from: Steve on Jul 02, 01:15 PM 2020
Gizmo, what you're not understanding is:

1. I do understand what you're saying about singles etc. I just know better and that your theories dont hold water.

You constantly provide "proof" like really short term charts showing loss, then recovery. I mean whats the point? It's meaningless, and you lost on rs anyway.

2. Nothing you've provided in any way substantiates your claims. I mean literally you provided nothing valid. Evem with RS, all you provided was a claim you'd be #1, then you lost and said it was deliberate to mess with people.

So literally you've provided nothing valid to back your claims. Don't get shitty at me for that. I'm not being difficult about it either.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:36 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Sep 09, 06:47 PM 2020Did you forget that Steve made a monkey out of you and your RR? Your RR is full of shit according to Steve!
Steve's opinion of RR does not make it ineffective. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.  Either he is right or I am right. I'm willing to wait for validations and the consequences. Meanwhile Steve is well grounded in the opinions of idiots that drink the political Kool-Aid. I happen to agree with him in that regard. You can't have everything.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 09, 09:55 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:36 PM 2020
Steve's opinion of RR does not make it ineffective. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.  Either he is right or I am right. I'm willing to wait for validations and the consequences. Meanwhile Steve is well grounded in the opinions of idiots that drink the political Kool-Aid. I happen to agree with him in that regard. You can't have everything.

The factual candidate for America is set in stone and everyone else can pound sand?

Did I ever mention that...   Nevermind.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 10:34 PM 2020
Vote Trump 2020
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 09, 11:23 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 10:34 PM 2020
Vote Trump 2020

What with the military (suckers and losers) bashing as reported (Gold Star recipients + general in attendence at a French Memorial for fallen soldiers) and recorded on camera (I prefer soldiers who weren't captured ex: McCain), plus the recorded admission back in February in an bombshell interview piece displaying that he knew the graveness of CV19 but decided to downplay it all this time with his negligible actions (anti-mask, etc.,), how much more will his base put up with?

The result we got is 190k mortality and still squat to the economy.  But his base will go through 🔥 for him.

Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Steve on Sep 10, 01:09 AM 2020
Moxy, I think i'm done with "detailed" reasoning. Some people are really stupid. Vote Biden.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Moxy on Sep 10, 01:24 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Sep 10, 01:09 AM 2020
Moxy, I think i'm done with "detailed" reasoning. Some people are really stupid. Vote Biden.

Biden is a corporate shill.  He'll never pass Med4All.   

Why do pro-lifers (conservatives) neglect basic human needs from children of the poor and working class?  It's baffling. 
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: winforus on Sep 10, 10:03 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:36 PM 2020
Steve's opinion of RR does not make it ineffective. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.  Either he is right or I am right. I'm willing to wait for validations and the consequences.

There are other people which expressed the same opinion, who in your response, you called idiots and math zombies.


Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: winforus on Sep 10, 10:04 AM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:36 PM 2020
Meanwhile Steve is well grounded in the opinions of idiots that drink the political Kool-Aid. I happen to agree with him in that regard. You can't have everything.

You do understand, that Steve would vote for Trump - not because he is a brainwashed Trump supporter, but because he is the lesser of two evils? LOL
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 10, 10:58 AM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Sep 10, 10:04 AM 2020You do understand, that Steve would vote for Trump - not because he is a brainwashed Trump supporter, but because he is the lesser of two evils? LOL
I was thinking that it is near impossible for a president to not be evil because of voters' expectations. Once, one candidate makes bogus promises to gain support, this causes others to have to make bogus promises, just to compete. It's kind of like athletes using steroids and performance enhancing drugs. Ofc, I could be a lot wrong about this; this is just an interesting thought of mine.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: winforus on Sep 10, 11:12 AM 2020
Quote from: pepper on Sep 10, 10:58 AM 2020
I was thinking that it is near impossible for a president to not be evil because of voters' expectations. Once, one candidate makes bogus promises to gain support, this causes others to have to make bogus promises, just to compete. It's kind of like athletes using steroids and performance enhancing drugs. Ofc, I could be a lot wrong about this; this is just an interesting thought of mine.

Very interesting thought and I would agree with that - that is until we reach the conscious politics, which we are very far away.

Trump actually, is a pathological liar, and a classic example of a garandiose narcassist. Which is why, I am with you and Moxy - I wouldn’t vote for either candidate.
It’s really too bad that Biden is the other candidate.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 10, 04:29 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 10:34 PM 2020
Vote Trump 2020
Give me 1 good reason to vote for this man who voted to give money to billionaire airline companies under the guise of "coronavirus" "relief". They have billions in the bank to operate and pay workers for years. What's your excuse this time?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 10, 04:32 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 09:52 AM 2020You believe the crap taught regarding critical race theory. You believe that Trump lies all the time. You listen to fake news and can't tell what the truth is.
You think you can predict roulette outcomes with special meditations and crystal balls.

(I'm just doing the straw man fallacy thing to him, like he kept/keeps doing to me)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 10, 05:01 PM 2020
Quote from: gizmotron2 on Sep 09, 10:34 PM 2020Vote Trump 2020
But in 2018, the CEOs of American, Delta, United and Southwest Airlines received annual compensation ranging from $8 million to $15 million.

So big business can get money from the government/participate in socialism only when it benefits them (the airline coronavirus bailout). Since the CEOs have $ millions or $ billions, they should have to pay too. You can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: Steve on Sep 10, 09:29 PM 2020
Quote from: winforus on Sep 10, 10:04 AM 2020Steve would vote for Trump - not because he is a brainwashed Trump supporter, but because he is the lesser of two evils? LOL

Exacty. Trump means well, but he's also a bit of an idiot.

Biden and the people who control him have no interest in serving others. They are literally the worst of the worst. So if Biden wins, they're a big step closer to what they want. And it wont be good for us.

Anyway it really is wasting time to trying to convince many people of some things. They'll make their own choices.

But I will say no politician is likely to make the needed changes. Keeping a broken system going is not good. But some politicians still mean well, and are better than others.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for president (or no vote)?
Post by: pepper on Sep 11, 08:54 AM 2020
Quote from: Moxy on Sep 09, 12:51 PM 2020
Did I mention you're a tool?
That's thrice, you TRIPLE TIME REPEATER!!!! Now go to the dungeon, directly to the dungeon. Do not pass go; do not collect 200 dollaires.