@ turbo

[cht]

What are you trying to prove putting me in moderate mode? So you're the boss? That you're the boss here? Do not you have arguments? I didnt do anything wrong here and you should not have that kind of attitude with me. I already contribute a lot with this forum providing several strategies.

You're acting like a child if you're avenged that way.

Actually you are wrong.

This is a private forum. The owner/admin/moderator can do whatever shit they wish to suit their agenda.

Like you, our sharing of strategies does not make us immune to their whims and fancies. Grow up, get real.

Unless if you are caleb who suits their agenda whose personal abuse is tolerated. 

[Turner]

What are you trying to prove putting me in moderate mode? So you're the boss? That you're the boss here? Do not you have arguments? I didnt do anything wrong here and you should not have that kind of attitude with me. I already contribute a lot with this forum providing several strategies.

You're acting like a child if you're avenged that way.

You arnt on moderate.

[Andre Chass]

You arnt on moderate.

So what's that?

Warning Level
30% (being watched)

[ZERO]

So what's that?

Warning Level
30% (being watched)

30% must be your win rate? (and you are being watched by the casinos) 

[nottophammer]

who's top of the watched league?

[The General]

That's entirely not true, it's your opinion and you assume that they do.
You'll never see past 1 spin. Repeaters are therefore useless in a world where nothing repeats and each spin is it's own event, while a session or group of spins is meaningless and holds no information at all. It's a flaw preventing you from seeing what's possible.

Never see past one spin?  Are you friggin serious!  We talk about the long term.  You're the one trapped in the short term nonsense crap.  LOL!!!

Why is it that you are so certain that you know more than all of these the experts, mathematicians, and even history that are far more educated than you are?   HUBRIS

A square Turbo.  It's just a square!

[daveylibra]

... to get back on track of this long debate - between Steve and Turbo -

I really would love to believe what Turbo says, because if true then there is hope that you or I could find his, or a similar, winning system, but my brain believes Steve is right with his 1/37 etc.

So, one question for Turbo please. Can you write some math to prove your system works? No I don't expect you to write it here, of course, but what I mean is are you claiming that it is POSSIBLE to actually put pen to paper and demonstrate proof? Or would it be "proof" within limits (eg an assumption of x repeats in y spins or something like that.)

I will be fascinated by your reply either way...!

[The General]

Steve, others, and myself have proven that Turbo's basically full of BS.

It all comes down to this.

1.  The game is completely random.  Turbo acknowledges this much and says that he relies on it.
2. He claims  that hot numbers from the past will hit more frequently than the other numbers  on future spins even though the game is completely random.    We already know that the long term expectation is 1/38 so why would a past hot number be more likely to hit if the game is random?

It's as stupid as debating that water isn't wet.

What we have is a kind of oxymoron.  It's absurd!

[Blood Angel]

You can try it all you want, as soon as an imbalance is formed in the set of total numbers your game will always end up winning,

An imbalance ? Can you explain more what you mean?

[TurboGenius]

Again, perhaps Turbo is wrong, but clearly there is no debate here, as you two won't agree on terms. So it leaves members like me to wonder what your endgame is here.

We actually agree and say the same thing in different ways, he just doesn't seem to understand that. A player can't win unless they bet on number(s) (predict - if you will) that shows above average. We both agree on this. Hot numbers do this - he doesn't agree.
It's a circle because two people say the same thing yet one doesn't believe what the other is saying is possible to do. It completely is. He says not. There's no getting him to believe that and that's fine, other people get it. The point of my posts are never "How do I get Steve to understand this" - there are a LOT of members here and some do. That's what's important.

Steve, others, and myself have proven that Turbo's basically full of BS.

Nope, You and Steve have said it (and leaving out the scammer Andre). So that's two of you, both of which win your own ways with other means and aren't expected to work out how to win in other ways. It's as absurd as a submarine designed telling a aircraft designer that his plane will never fly. Stick with what you know - the sub. Once you start trying to point out that people who see things other than what you do are wrong when they aren't - it just looks bad.

1.  The game is completely random.  Turbo acknowledges this much and says that he relies on it.

If the game were not random, I could not win. That is the truth. How that seems silly is beyond me. You rely on non-random (bias/defect) to win. You therefore CAN'T win using a bias wheel approach on a random wheel. We are opposites - both ways work. You don't accept that because all you know is bias. That's fine, stick with it.

2. He claims  that hot numbers from the past will hit more frequently than the other numbers  on future spins even though the game is completely random.

I never said past spins matter, I don't rely on past spins to win. I made it clear that "hot numbers from the past" will either stay hot, show at average or go cold. You can prove this to yourself just making a list of the possible combinations of "what can happen".
Cold numbers can stay cold, show at average or go hot. This is common sense, why argue about it. So why would hot numbers from past spins matter to me ? They don't.
You don't pay attention at all.

Why is it that you are so certain that you know more than all of these the experts, mathematicians, and even history that are far more educated than you are?

Why is it ? Because it's a fact and reality. Things are discovered and invented every single day - things thought to be true are proven as untrue, things thought to be fantasy are possible. But none of those things matter to someone who isn't open to the truth. They will only understand what they're told and reject everything else. That's fine. Failure to accept new things is just how some people are - just not "most" people. If that were the case we would still be walking everywhere and hitting one another with clubs before returning home to our cave.

A square Turbo.  It's just a square!

Yes, a square that is defined with math, not "logic" and the complex example I gave you is also geometry but much more complex than your "square", one you understand and one you don't. If you don't understand something - it doesn't make it impossible and it doesn't make people who do understand it stupid.

[Moxy]

Come on, T.  Wasting your time idling, and for what?  Attention?  Notoriety?  I don't get it. 

If you have it, go seize the day.  Otherwise, you just come off having ulterior motives (fishing for info).  I'd say the latter too...

[TurboGenius]

If you have it, go seize the day.

I have been, thank you.

Otherwise, you just come off having ulterior motives (fishing for info).  I'd say the latter too...

Or I could be helping people by pointing them in the right direction and giving as much explanation as I can. Since you assume the "latter"...then don't waste your time reading my posts or this thread. It's simple. I spent 30+ years setting up a scam ? 
Damn. That's dedication right there. Like making a sandwich that takes 3 generations to finish before you can eat it lol. (I guess it would be a pretty good 'sammich' - but jeez).

[cht]

Steve, others, and myself have proven that Turbo's basically full of BS.

It all comes down to this.

1.  The game is completely random.  Turbo acknowledges this much and says that he relies on it.
2. He claims  that hot numbers from the past will hit more frequently than the other numbers  on future spins even though the game is completely random.    We already know that the long term expectation is 1/38 so why would a past hot number be more likely to hit if the game is random?

It's as stupid as debating that water isn't wet.

What we have is a kind of oxymoron.  It's absurd!

I never said past spins matter, I don't rely on past spins to win. I made it clear that "hot numbers from the past" will either stay hot, show at average or go cold. You can prove this to yourself just making a list of the possible combinations of "what can happen".
Cold numbers can stay cold, show at average or go hot. This is common sense, why argue about it. So why would hot numbers from past spins matter to me ? They don't.
You don't pay attention at all.

The first is caleb's counter-argument. The 2nd is TG's response.

I told caleb earlier the same thing.

Both caleb and steve made the same mistaken assumption.
(A lot other members made this mistake. Ofc some are angry or frustrated with TG got this.)

I highlighted this disconnect.

At least steve backed off. He finally realised it.
He proceeded forward to ask the next obvious question.

CHT, how are you supposed to predict variance? You can predict an expected range with reasonable accuracy, but you are still stuck with 1 in 37. So your attempts to predict any outcomes based on variance are quite futile.

Ofc no response from me.

But caleb is too dumb to realise it, stuck at this same disconnect junction. What more do you expect from someone who is only about wizardsofodds, google and wiki ?

[DoctorSudoku]

What are you trying to prove putting me in moderate mode? So you're the boss? That you're the boss here? Do not you have arguments? I didnt do anything wrong here and you should not have that kind of attitude with me.

I already contribute a lot with this forum providing several strategies.


You're acting like a child if you're avenged that way.

Andre,
Yes, you have posted several strategies (that you have used yourself) on this forum.

Thanks for your contributions.

In fact, one of your posted strategies is so far proving to be one of the best bet selection strategies ever posted on this forum.

I will post a message about it in the next few days in the appropriate thread.

   

[The General]

I never said past spins matter, I don't rely on past spins to win. I made it clear that "hot numbers from the past" will either stay hot, show at average or go cold. You can prove this to yourself just making a list of the possible combinations of "what can happen".
Cold numbers can stay cold, show at average or go hot. This is common sense, why argue about it. So why would hot numbers from past spins matter to me ? They don't.
You don't pay attention at all.

Turbo,

It would appear that you have a time traveling problem on your hand and a messy word salad.  I have to ask, are you a time traveling robot from the future?

FYI...a hot number can't become hot unless it's hit.  And if it's hit and it's hot, then on the next spin it's part of the past.  How can a number be considered hot, if it has yet to hit?  LOL!   



Logic, it's always in the way. 



I'm sorry Turbo, but I have to ask, do you have a team of comedians writing for you or do you come up with this nonsense all on your own?