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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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The General

In the US, contrary to popular believe, they don't remove wheels just because they fail a chi square test.  The reason is that the wheels still make money just like the other wheels do.  In the US roulette has two zero and the casinos largely look at it like a carnival game.   When a wheel is moved, the data download file usually doesn't follow the wheel, but rather stays with the new wheel that is put in it's place.  If a wheel is very biased they just move it around more frequently.  Some casinos have several, some have none.    Following wheel movements is as simple as following wood grain patterns and scratches.

  The second largest win in North America took place on the LV strip in 2010 over 16 hours, on a new wheel that was poorly assembled and that was biased.  The casino disputed the multi million dollar win and attempted to get out of paying, but the players of course won the dispute and the casino looked like idiots in the end. 

The thing about a biased wheel is that you could tell people that the wheel is biased, but most people wouldn't have a clue as to how to play it or beat it.  As a matter of fact the same holds true for most of the people on the forum.

  I have countless biased wheel data streams archived and I've been considering a fun test for forum members.  I could post portions of the stream and we could see who does the best job at beating the wheel with a system/method.  If anyone's interested in giving it a try then let me know.

-The General 

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

jekhb76

And now a 3 Zero wheel has Made his entrence  :thumbsup:

ZERO

Quote from: The General on Jun 28, 03:29 AM 2018
I have countless biased wheel data streams archived and I've been considering a fun test for forum members.  I could post portions of the stream and we could see who does the best job at beating the wheel with a system/method.  If anyone's interested in giving it a try then let me know.

-The General

Sounds interesting, we might learn a thing or two, I`m up for it...  :thumbsup:

denzie

Came back after few months ... still the same.... attacking TG  :xd:

Nope, he wont tell
:thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Roulettebeater

Quote from: denzie on Jun 28, 10:44 AM 2018
Came back after few months ... still the same.... attacking TG  :xd:

Nope, he wont tell
:thumbsup:


yeah!
i hope you made lots of money!

come on Denzie, be thankful!

:lol:
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Steve

Quote from: denzie on Jun 28, 10:44 AM 2018
Came back after few months ... still the same.... attacking TG  :xd:

Nope, he wont tell
:thumbsup:

Shortsighted. I wouldn't care if he has the hg and keeps it secret. I care that his claims are contradictory, misleading, false and waste people's time. You only need to understand his math and logic to know there's a problem. According to you, maybe we should allow nonsense without logical rebuttal.
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TurboGenius

Quote from: ZERO on Jun 28, 10:22 AM 2018Sounds interesting, we might learn a thing or two, I`m up for it...

'eh it's simple.
Just play the hot sections of the wheel, hot numbers....
it's not the magical mystical knowledge that people think it is.
It's exploiting hot numbers due to a wheel bias - as compared
to my exploiting hot numbers due to "random" being "random".
I'm called misleading, bias wheel players are called Advantage Players.
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Steve

Hot numbers are worthless because they don't continue being hot. Some will, some wont. Its the same as random.

Biased numbers are not "hot". They are biased. They continue to hit more frequently than random.

Understand the difference?
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TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 06:15 PM 2018Hot numbers are worthless because they don't continue being hot. Some will, some wont. Its the same as random.

I only need to win on one or a few of the hot ones while I'm playing.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 06:15 PM 2018Biased numbers are not "hot". They are biased. They continue to hit more frequently than random.

Nope, they are hot. It doesn't matter why - they are still hot numbers/wheel sections. Anyone playing a hot number style system will win on a bias wheel, just like a AP player will.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 06:15 PM 2018Understand the difference?

Nope, I guess not.
Random gives hot numbers, less predictable than a bias wheel but in the end it's the same result - because there will always be hot numbers, and anyone can win on them.
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The General

I know most people think they can just hop on the hot numbers right away and win on a biased wheel, but it doesn't work like that.

Turbo,

Have you ever tracked or played  biased wheel?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Steve

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 08:46 PM 2018I only need to win on one or a few of the hot ones while I'm playing.

Didn't you know a hot number spins no more frequently than a cold number, after you've identified them? Oh thats right, you can predict which numbers will become hot in the future, on random spins.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 08:46 PM 2018Nope, they are hot. It doesn't matter why

It does matter, because the cause determines if they'll continue to spin more frequently than expected. But hot numbers ARE winning as frequently as expected. It's plain statistics. It's normal variance.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 08:46 PM 2018Anyone playing a hot number style system will win on a bias wheel, just like a AP player will.

On a biased wheel maybe. But I thought you won when the spins were all random without any bias? Holes all through your gibberish.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 08:46 PM 2018there will always be hot numbers, and anyone can win on them.

You cant know which numbers until they appear, unless there is a wheel defect/bias.

Unfortunately you've lost the plot. It's easy to say "you just dont understand" but it doesn't cut it considering your mistakes.
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Joe

Quote from: The General on Jun 28, 03:29 AM 2018I have countless biased wheel data streams archived and I've been considering a fun test for forum members.  I could post portions of the stream and we could see who does the best job at beating the wheel with a system/method.  If anyone's interested in giving it a try then let me know.

I'd like to have a go at this. Can you also upload the complete file?

With hot numbers is there's no reason for them to continue being hot, unlike biased numbers. Maybe numbers can go in and out of bias depending on the circumstances though. Perhaps some numbers are more prone to show bias when the wheel is spun slowly, for instance. The only way you could tell the difference between normal randomness and bias in that case is if you can see the correlation.
Logic. It's always in the way.

TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 09:13 PM 2018Unfortunately you've lost the plot. It's easy to say "you just dont understand" but it doesn't cut it considering your mistakes.

....and I can't stop winning.
It's strange.
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Steve

Is that why you left MPR after losing?
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falkor2k15

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 29, 06:51 AM 2018
....and I can't stop winning.
It's strange.
Turbo, who taught you the HG? Did you get help from Priyanka or reddwarf or Dyksexlic?
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