@ turbo

[Blood Angel]

Turbo, who taught you the HG? Did you get help from Priyanka or reddwarf or Dyksexlic?

Or non of the above!

[TurboGenius]

Turbo, who taught you the HG? Did you get help from Priyanka or reddwarf or Dyksexlic?

None of the above.
It's interesting how everyone sucked up to Priyanka - who ended up being the cheater at MPR in first place.. and I was the one who figured out how they did it.
I tend to never read anyone's posts/ideas and just do what I know from what I've learned.
How that person was seen as the savior when they were just lying to people is beyond me,
Now I'm the one being called misleading for pointing people in the right direction....'eh oh well....

Is that why you left MPR after losing?

I'm sorry, but MPR isn't the proof of anything working or not working.
I guess now I'm supposed to go to the casino and give back everything that I've won (so far) and I'll even write a note saying "Steve says it's not possible, here's your money back".

[Steve]

Turbo,  you figured out a way to cheat bankroll, not win rate as priyanka was doing. Ultimately his cheat was easy because the programmer didn't follow my design specs and made calculations done on the user side. It's now fixed.

I'm sorry, but MPR isn't the proof of anything working or not working.

And parx or rs is, with their betting limits and huge bonuses? You have a good sense of humor. Mpr is far more realistic than either, which is why you suddenly left after losing with your unconvincing excuse.

You have a few inexperienced supporters. Anyone experienced sees through your contradictions and errors. All the gurus eventually get found out. Only the stupid supporters keep looking for the special sauce to beat random with math thats random.

[TurboGenius]

You have a few inexperienced supporters. Anyone experienced sees through your contradictions and errors. All the gurus eventually get found out. Only the stupid supporters keep looking for the special sauce to beat random with math thats random.

Don't call your forum members stupid just because they express interest and are willing to work out what you say is impossible. There is a purpose to the forum other than an advertisement page for computers ? With all of the banners and links everywhere - why can't system players discuss other options without being called stupid ?

[Steve]

turbo, unfortunately some are uneducated or not very smart. Im not sugarcoating anything. But most are reasonably intelligent and logical people, which is why most members see the holes in your logic.

My explanations of why your approaches fail has nothing to do with AP or computers. You bring it up yourself, and use it as an argument, because logic doesnt work for you. Its transparent. Any logical and unbiased discussion leads to your claims being false.

Again the whole professional world agrees your approaches and logic are backwards. Are they all APs too?

[ArmitageShanks]

curious as to what your definition of inexperienced or uneducated gamblers is? Ive been gambling since the late 80's and the only people i know now that would consisder using a computer in a way you suggest i would class as desperate 

[Steve]

curious as to what your definition of inexperienced or uneducated gamblers is?

Take the forum quiz. If you score poorly, youre probably uneducated. Being a gambler for decades doesnt mean educated. Not necessarily stupid, but uneducated. The answers are not opinion. They are verifiable fact.

Or try actually reading and thinking about turbos claims, then tell me if you see the gaping wide holes.

the only people i know now that would consisder using a computer in a way you suggest i would class as desperate

Most players with my computers were already wealthy. They didn't get there by being stupid.

Computers are not for everyone. Nobody is forcing anyone to use them. You are quite welcome to earn peanuts working 9-5.

[Steve]

Shanks, start with this:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18348.msg202866#msg202866

[cht]

I'd like to have a go at this. Can you also upload the complete file?

With hot numbers is there's no reason for them to continue being hot, unlike biased numbers. Maybe numbers can go in and out of bias depending on the circumstances though. Perhaps some numbers are more prone to show bias when the wheel is spun slowly, for instance. The only way you could tell the difference between normal randomness and bias in that case is if you can see the correlation.

TG does not require bias. He just need random to do it's normal job, ie hit pockets randomly.

[The General]

If a game is random and there are 38 pockets then why should a number hit any more or less frequently than 1 /38 in the long run?

[Steve]

TG does not require bias. He just need random to do it's normal job, ie hit pockets randomly.

You don't understand what you're saying. Random means you can't change the odds. It's like saying you can only change odds when you can't. And tg claims to do it with hot numbers that aren't the past.

[Scarface]

If a game is random and there are 38 pockets then why should a number hit any more or less frequently than 1 /38 in the long run?

Doesn't have to hit more often, as long as your wagers are higher when it does hit

[Steve]

If a game is random and there are 38 pockets then why should a number hit any more or less frequently than 1 /38 in the long run?

They can't answer these simple questions with any substantiating information, beyond a vague duh look,  or 4 is after 3 talk. Then complain we keep asking the same fundamental questions.

[Steve]

Doesn't have to hit more often, as long as your wagers are higher when it does hit

How do you know which to bet higher on, when the spins are random?

[Scarface]

They can't answer these simple questions with any substantiating information, beyond a vague duh look,  or 4 is after 3 talk. Then complain we keep asking the same fundamental questions.

Not trying to speak for Turbo here, just my own opinion.  If probability shows that a hot number will normally hit at least 9 times before the coldest number shows once, that can help if playing repeaters.  All 2 repeats will not show before a 3rd repeater shows...normally only a couple numbers repeat before one repeats again.  This is the same for 2 repeaters, 3 repeaters, 4 repeaters, etc.  Basically, there will be a couple numbers that always soars pass the rest within 100 spins.  Usually easy to identify while playing, and very predictable.  This is something random always does....there is always an unequal distribution of numbers in the short term, and may be something we can take advantage of.

We will never see 36 numbers show in 36 spins with no repeats...and do it again for another 36 spins.  The odds of this happening would be like hitting the lottery twice in one day.

Random is predictable.