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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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Steve

falkor, lets not do the flat earth thing again. i really gave it serious consideration but couldnt find one thing to support it - only bad logic. Even when i asked for your best proof. Fine believe what you want. I see no benefit in flat or triangle earth. Its just a hoax or deliberate distraction. I know you have opinions, but not here please.


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Steve

Quote from: Nimo on Jul 01, 10:14 AM 2018
Exactly, testing millions of spins proves nothing.  The odds don't change.  37 pockets , each number should hit 27027.02703 times, but we all know that won't happen as the number itself is a fraction.  We also know the numbers won't be distributed equally, that's random.  Repeaters happen, they happen often and they are still within the 1/37 odds.  Using repeaters in certain ways  as a bet selection, along with proper bankroll management, gives you graphs like the one I posted constantly.   

No. Simply more testing means higher confidence, ie more assured.

Smaller tests are more likely to be variance/luck.

Its not uncommon for a system to beat 10,000+ spins but still lose eventually. Thats a lifetime of spins for most players. Will all players using the same system profit too?

As for your other comments, there are a lot of problems but I'm really wasting my time here. I shouldn't have bothered again but sometimes get suckered into explaining it again. Start with :.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/

Save yourself years of going in circles.

Also try the forum quiz.

You might also notice on mpr, most players start by winning. Then it goes south. Same as real casinos.
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TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 06:44 AM 2018I'm insecure and threatened?

It appears so.
How else can you explain the complete and utter lies below ?

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 09:02 AM 2018One example is his claim that "random has limits". He cited numbers not sleeping more than 200 spins, which is incorrect. A fact easily demonstrated.

I never said a number can't sleep more than 200 spins, it could be 400,500,600 spins before the last number appears. I never lose 1 unit on these numbers because I never bet them. I wonder why you don't see the logic when you are the one saying it.
If 4 numbers go 150 spins (for example) ((common)) and you never lose 1 unit betting/losing on them - the math of the game has changed. I explained this already, you don't get it. You accept numbers will be sleepers but don't seem to understand that by NOT betting them, you lose NOTHING - and the house edge is affected. Therefore repeaters are proven as the way to win just from that one point alone. BS I know, ignore it.

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 09:02 AM 2018Another is "you'll never see 37 numbers in 37 spins". Actually given enough spins you'll see every combination of numbers. The proof is run simulations.

No, You'll NEVER see all 37 numbers appear in 37 spins. Please "simulate" away to your heart's content. It will NEVER happen. The calculated odds of this happening are INSANE - you can't point to something obscure and act like it's common or even possible.
You could say "there's a 1 in 100,000,000 chance of a asteroid hitting you when you go outside - therefore NEVER go outside". It's absurd. If you "simulate" billions of spins/cycles of 37 spins, you might find this happen - then post and act like it's actually possible that it happens commonly.
You take what I say and twist it - then call me misleading.
You request the "math" and the "proof" as if I'm stupid enough to go "here you go !!".
I told you it's there, I showed you how (and everyone else). I'm not posting the "proof" you seem to require, it's right here in front of me.

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 10:10 AM 2018Should we pitty bankers too?

No, Should we make a manual describing step by step how to rob a bank and maybe get away with it ?  (just don't get caught and be covert). How absurd. Typical liberal viewpoint, it's everywhere here in the US too, The "rich" people don't deserve it, they are the "enemy", steal from them and give to the poor until everyone is equally poor. I hate the casino and they steal people's money, so it's ok for me to bring in a device (secretly and covertly) to rip them off, beat them at their own game ?   lol. That's a morality issue, I agree. Remember, I'm the one with the issues right ?
I'm staying on the high road and winning legit using only the info that random provides.

You still don't understand that random has limits... it's in the book. I have a feeling you'll learn something. Or you can just yell at it and say it's all lies, throw it in the fire and then post how it's all garbage, misleading, nonsense, BS.. much like you do now with simple posts and explanations and examples.
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TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 07:09 AM 2018I'm open to the possibility of being wrong. Thats how this thread started....../.....
I have a rather open mind.

If any of that were true or possible, you would have figured this out by now and would actually post agreeing with me. That's not going to happen.
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TurboGenius

This person at RSim isn't in the top 5, top 10, top 50, top 100, top 200
and look at this chart !
I'll give you a hint - it's REPEATERS


small unit size, not relevant to winning or losing since clearly the chart is exactly how you want it to be when using something that works.
Not what I'm doing, but it still works - so played my own session with $50.00 chips
and went 2 steps in a progression, not a issue at all. Doubled my unrealistic bankroll of 3k


But sadly, it's not possible. It's not enough spins and it's rigged. 1-2 unit progression is terrible - the number of pockets don't change, each spin is independent.
lol.
Still in first place, still not a losing session. It's all nonsense and BS.
Congrats to that guy, go make millions.
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Gandhi

Flat earth was debunked by steve-o.

but back to the topic, good job CHT, keep it going!  :thumbsup:

jekhb76

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jul 01, 12:22 PM 2018
This person at RSim isn't in the top 5, top 10, top 50, top 100, top 200
and look at this chart !
I'll give you a hint - it's REPEATERS


small unit size, not relevant to winning or losing since clearly the chart is exactly how you want it to be when using something that works.
Not what I'm doing, but it still works - so played my own session with $50.00 chips
and went 2 steps in a progression, not a issue at all. Doubled my unrealistic bankroll of 3k


But sadly, it's not possible. It's not enough spins and it's rigged. 1-2 unit progression is terrible - the number of pockets don't change, each spin is independent.
lol.
Still in first place, still not a losing session. It's all nonsense and BS.
Congrats to that guy, go make millions.
I know this guy, and his playing has nothing to do with repeats for that matter. But he is doin' a great job
But he won't make millions. But profit is profit.

Turner

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jul 01, 11:29 AM 2018
No, You'll NEVER see all 37 numbers appear in 37 spins.
Correct.
There are odds that all the air molecules will be in one corner of a room but there are so many mind blowing other ways they can be arranged in a room its not going to happen

Ive never heard some one say to me "no...dont open that door. This may be the day all the mollecules are in the corner"
LOL

Scarface

Yes, most people don't realize how crazy the odds would be for that to happen.  Just recently read somewhere the chance that shuffling a 52 card deck and it randomly appears in perfect order would be equal to the number of atoms in the entire universe!  Sure, anything can happen, but it won't  :)

jekhb76

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 01, 10:34 AM 2018
There's no way Steve is censoring the HG.

I scored above average on an IQ test and I'm part of the top 12% of the population who knows the earth is flat, and I can tell you that there's no HG in sight despite 3 years of thinking and testing on an almost daily basis - yet the truth about the flat earth is hidden in plain sight. So the main skill that is needed here for all of this is not flat earth understanding or being able to spot a conspiracy - it's about understanding how satanic the human race happens to be. The elite aren't some great engineers who need to reduce the population every once in a while - they are typical humans without a conscience who take pleasure in other people's suffering - though that doesn't mean I'll stop searching for the HG.
You are kidding Right? Earth is flat! Pfff Oh man.  :yawn:

Andre Chass

Quote from: Scarface on Jul 01, 02:29 PM 2018
Yes, most people don't realize how crazy the odds would be for that to happen.  Just recently read somewhere the chance that shuffling a 52 card deck and it randomly appears in perfect order would be equal to the number of atoms in the entire universe!  Sure, anything can happen, but it won't  :)

Odds are the same any other combination will happens.

This forum sometimes scares me to know that many people do not use their brains.

If the wheel had only ten numbers. The ofds of these combinations happening would be the same.
For example:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10

3-7-4-1-9-7-10-8-5-2

8-5-7-10-3-9-6-1-4-2

All these 3 combinations have the same odds to happen.

Prove me I'm wrong!

Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

The General

Stating the obvious.

1. Turbo can't beat the MPR
2. Turbo can't explain why in the random game/rng that a hot number is more likely to hit than a cold number over the next series of spins.
3. Turbo can beat the Parx free mode game, but so can Bago.  And Bago isn't playing Turbo's system.  He's just raising bets to show that anyone can beat the game and make it to the top.   ::)

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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Scarface

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 01, 03:19 PM 2018
Odds are the same any other combination will happens.

This forum sometimes scares me to know that many people do not use their brains.

If the wheel had only ten numbers. The ofds of these combinations happening would be the same.
For example:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10

3-7-4-1-9-7-10-8-5-2

8-5-7-10-3-9-6-1-4-2

All these 3 combinations have the same odds to happen.

Prove me I'm wrong!

It's only the losing combination most are concerned about.  If there are 100s of thousands of winning combinations with the same odds as that 1 loser...I'll take those odds  :)

ArmitageShanks

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 01, 03:19 PM 2018Odds are the same any other combination will happens.
Don't think people are talking about the combination but the fact you won't see 37 different numbers in 37 spins whatever the combination.

Scarface

Quote from: The General on Jul 01, 03:34 PM 2018

2. Turbo can't explain why in the random game/rng that a hot number is more likely to hit than a cold number over the next series of spins.

Random is predictable.  Its basic probability.  There will probably be at least 1 number not hit in 100 spins.  It is very unlikely there would be 10 unhit numbers in 100 spins.  Run these tests over and over, and you'll see it's very predictable.  Knowing the balances, and the average expectation will make a difference. 

In my opinion, knowing this, will help keep variance low enough to have a balanced game.  With a balance game, you will have ups and downs.  The casino can't force you to play 10000 spins.  The advantage the player has is to leave when up  :)

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