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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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Steve

Turbo, what makes 37 numbers in 37 spins less likely than any other combination of numbers?

Simple question.
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Andre Chass

Quote from: Scarface on Jul 01, 05:57 PM 2018
Not looking at it the right way.  Let's say a system player is playing repeaters, and when a repeater shows it's a win.

Now roll the dice 6 times and record the data.  Is there any repeats?  Now run this test 1000 times.  How many trials had repeats?  How many didn't?  The odds of a repeat in 6 rolls far exceeds the odds of none.

Nobody here is retarded. Of course there will be repeaters.

Now pick up two combinations. For example:

1-2-3-4-5-6.

2-5-5-6-3-1.

Now run the test 1000 times. Roll the dice 1000 times.

The avarege that the combinations appears (or don't appear) will be the same.

I insist... Prove I'm wrong!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

MoneyT101

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 07:07 PM 2018
Turbo, what makes 37 numbers in 37 spins less likely than any other combination of numbers?

Simple question.

Why does this matter?  Did you not here the possibility of it happening.  All those zeros

Why are you still trying to argue repeaters are more likely before all the unique numbers show up 🤦‍â™,️
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Steve

The talk about 37 numbers never happening in 37 spins is garbage. Such a situation is just as likely as any other combination of numbers.

If Turbo wants to dispute this, maybe he can explain why the magical sequence is more special than any other sequence of numbers.

Betting on rare events is old. It's classic fallacy. It's really no different than seeing RRRRRRRRR then betting B, expecting that the rare sequence will not happen. but 37 numbers in 37 spins is more rare, right? Sure, but the principle is exactly the same.

Turbo alludes to progressively updating his bets based on the assumption that the magic sequence wont happen over time. But that wont work because no matter what happened in the past, each number is just as likely to spin next or anytime in the future. I'm not sure why some people struggle with this simple concept.

So Turbo, please answer my simple question.
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Turner

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 07:07 PM 2018what makes 37 numbers in 37 spins less likely than any other combination of numbers

This....same as 37 of the same number



MoneyT101

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 01, 07:13 PM 2018
Nobody here is retarded. Of course there will be repeaters.

Now pick up two combinations. For example:

1-2-3-4-5-6.

2-5-5-6-3-1.

Now run the test 1000 times. Roll the dice 1000 times.

The avarege that the combinations appears (or don't appear) will be the same.

I insist... Prove I'm wrong!

You are right but your argument is not the same as what is being talked about.

Chances of a repeater after the third roll are half... so by 4 roll chances of repeater before all 6 numbers rises.

The method is to win with a repeater.  Who cares how many times each combination happens repeat happens a lot more within 6 number combinations then uniques. 

All turbo did was find a way to play within that to make profit.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

TurboGenius

Quote from: Turner on Jul 01, 07:02 PM 2018did Turbo turn you down for the prom or something?.

Yes, it's something I don't like to bring up.
We were young.
The wheels on my car were bias and he had to point it out, then wouldn't get in.
He said it had a clearly dominant lug nut that was killing my alignment.
I drove around but he said I was driving too predictably - then wanted me to change
my name and then we had to enter the prom covertly.
It was the WORST night of my life - I told him NEVER AGAIN !

lol
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Nimo

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jul 01, 07:23 PM 2018
Yes, it's something I don't like to bring up.
We were young.
The wheels on my car were bias and he had to point it out, then wouldn't get in.
He said it had a clearly dominant lug nut that was killing my alignment.
I drove around but he said I was driving too predictably - then wanted me to change
my name and then we had to enter the prom covertly.
It was the WORST night of my life - I told him NEVER AGAIN !

lol

Did he also accuse you of being Sybil with all those personalities that you are on here? LOL
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Steve

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Jul 01, 07:18 PM 2018Why does this matter?  Did you not here the possibility of it happening.  All those zeros

Why? Because he seems to think his spin sequence is magical and less likely to happen. I just want confirmation from him.

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Jul 01, 07:18 PM 2018Why are you still trying to argue repeaters are more likely before all the unique numbers show up

I know repeaters are more likely, but you're missing the fact any sequence of numbers is just as unlikely. You're not understanding this:

ON SPIN 1: There are 37 numbers on the european wheel. The odds of any number on the next spin are 1 in 37. Let's say #2 won.

ON SPIN 2: Let's say #2 won again. We we have just 1 unique number in 2 spins. So the odds of the number repeating are still 1 in 37 because we only have one number. The odds of the number not repeating is 1 in 37 too.

ON SPIN 3: Say #32 won. Now we have 2 unique numbers in 3 spins. So for the NEXT spin, the odds of a repeat are now 2/37.

ON SPIN 4: Say #4 won. Now we have 3 unique numbers. So the odds of a repeat on the next spin are 3/37.

So we can see the more spins we play, the more likely there will be a repeat. Really basic probability.

Can we use this? No. Because the odds of the next spin are still 1 in 37. It's really not complicated.

It doesnt matter what magical sequence you think will or wont happen, you are still stuck with 1 in 37.

Turbo hints that he bets on normal distribution of repeaters and colds, aka "random". This is no different to expecting after 100 spins, there will be an equal amount of reds/blacks. It doesnt work.

The part where people get stuck is thinking "yeah well turbo is right, there are always repeaters as far as we see". It sounds logical. But it is shortsighted and missing the parts I explained.
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TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 07:07 PM 2018Turbo, what makes 37 numbers in 37 spins less likely than any other combination of numbers?
Simple question.

It is a simple question but it isn't related to what's on the chalkboard.
So I can write out any set of 37 numbers, and the chance of those 37 numbers
appearing in order (like you said, or the same number repeating 37 times in a row or all 37 numbers appearing in order....((same math)) is..... (god I love this)
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Now, we have cleared up that repeaters are going to happen.
I'm glad for that hurdle to be over. The rest of the class was getting bored.
So... before 37 spins happen, yes there will be repeats.
That means there will be numbers that don't appear.
That means you won't lose 1 unit betting on them since they won't appear and
you will lose every attempt.
There are more "that means" but jeez it's late and I didn't even have dinner yet.

zero zero zero zero zero zero lol  I'm going to dream about that tonight.
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Steve

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jul 01, 07:32 PM 2018It is a simple question but it isn't related to what's on the chalkboard.

Avoiding the question again. It is related because you are saying the chances of it is so remote that it wont happen. The point is it is NOT less likely than any sequence, and you're still stuck at 1 in 37.

So there's only 2 possibilities left:

1. Your system works with any "rare sequence" and not just repeaters.
2. You're in a corner again.

So which is it, 1? Please confirm so we can move on.
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Andre Chass

Everybody knows repeaters appears.

The problem is that you will not know which numbers will repeat, how many numbers will repeat, and WHEN they will repeat.

You can win for days or even months, until some day you do not hit the number that will be repeated soon. Then your bankroll is done.

Imho and my advice...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

TurboGenius

Quote from: Steve on Jul 01, 07:31 PM 2018I know repeaters are more likely, but you're missing the fact any sequence of numbers is just as unlikely. You're not understanding this

Luckily I don't have to be right on a sequence of numbers, I just need a couple to be right and they always are.
So if I had to say "23 is next, then 20, then 0 and then 1" and every time I was wrong I would lose - well hell, I'd lose every time. That's not what's happening here.
I CAN say "23,20,0,1 are potential winners" and be right.
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TurboGenius

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 01, 07:38 PM 2018The problem is that you will not know which numbers will repeat, how many numbers will repeat, and WHEN they will repeat.

That is true. I can't do a Babe Ruth and point to the wheel and say "32 NOW !" and it's 32.
Nope, I can't do that. I think a computer can though... I can come pretty close using a group of numbers but not always right - it's "random".

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 01, 07:38 PM 2018You can win for days or even months, until some day you do not hit the number that will be repeated soon. Then your bankroll is done.

The odds of that happening are almost the same as...... I won't post the link again lol
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Steve

Still dancing around and not answering direct questions.
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