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[Steve]

The more i think about Steve, the More i get the feeling that Steve is acting the way he does is maybe hoping that TG or anyone else Will reveil there HG on this Forum

Then you arent too bright.

i can't find Any other logical way to explain why he acts like he does.

And when I argued Earth is round, not flat, it was because I dont want people knowing Earth is really flat.

we are Smart enough

Clearly not. You'll find out eventually. Its not my money.

[cht]

Then you arent too bright.

And when I argued Earth is round, not flat, it was because I dont want people knowing Earth is really flat.

Clearly not. You'll find out eventually. Its not my money.

You are correct.
I and everyone agree with you.

Those repeater guys are making bank.
It is their money to gain or lose.
They will find out eventually

You have spammed this thread with your opinion like an old broken record that got stuck.
We heard you loud and clear.

Shall you start by doing what you wrote ?
Mind your own business.

[Andre Chass]

There's no Hg! There's no secret! There's no a magic formula!

The system is: Bet hot numbers and use a progression to chase your losses.

Casinos provide hot numbers for you to watch. Why? Because the casino wants you to think that you have control of the game. The casinos deceive you.

[Steve]

And Jek, do you think you could try to not attack the messenger. Stick to the logic and math. Understand what is being said. My motives are really simple. Much the same as arguing the world is not flat.

If you cant argue constructively and provide verifiable information and claims to contribute, then stay off the thread.

So far none of the repeaters people have provided a single shred of useful and verifiable information. Its all just talk so far. Anything that is actually provided is incorrect, but you guys clearly aren't understanding why.

So again, stop throwing rocks and keep it relevant.

I already know what turbos system does, or attempts to do. He already gave enough information. the problem is its wrong.

Basically he's betting on the numbers as they appear to be turning hot, with the expectation that they'll continue to be hot. And he uses progression on the numbers. It doesnt work.

For example, he'll start logging numbers and when one repeats, he'll bet on it. When another repeats, he'll bet on it too. The concept is simple, but again it doesnt work.

[6th-sense]

There's no Hg! There's no secret! There's no a magic formula!

The system is: Bet hot numbers and use a progression to chase your losses.

Casinos provide hot numbers for you to watch. Why? Because the casino wants you to think that you have control of the game. The casinos deceive you.

This must be the most stupidest comment I’ve heard for a while..the casino providing hot numbers😄😄😄

[Andre Chass]

This must be the most stupidest comment I’ve heard for a while..the casino providing hot numbers😄😄😄

Please be polite

I think you did not understand me. Casinos privides large panels where you can look up the hot numbers.

[cht]

Please be polite

I think you did not understand me. Casinos privides large panels where you can look up the hot numbers.

Some unknown repeaters player made a lot of money when those hot numbers that you see on the large screen hit.

[falkor2k15]

This is what happens when you bet hot numbers (front runners) on the premise that only they can reach X repeats because they've repeated already:

You need a casino with $10K house limits, and it sure doesn't win flat-betting! And this is without any house edge, BV-style...

2nd Dozen repeat below: all overtaken by a sleeper..

1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 3 3
3 1 1   2 2 2
2 1 1   2 3 3 3
1 1   2 2 2
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   2 2 3 3 3
1 1   3 3 2 2 2
1 1   3 3 2 3
1 1   3 3 2 2 3
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 2 3 3
1 1   2 3 2 3 3
3 1 1   2 2 2
1 1   2 2 2
3 1 1   2 2 2
1 2 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 3 2 3
1 1   2 2 2
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   2 3 3 3
1 1   2 3 2 2
1 1   2 2 2
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 2 2 3 3
1 1   3 3 3
3 1 1   2 2 2
1 2 1   3 2 3 3
1 1   2 2 3 2
1 1   2 2 3 3 3
1 1   3 3 2 2 2
1 1   2 2 2
1 1   3 3 3
2 1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 3 3
1 1   3 2 2 3 3

There's only so many ways you can play 2 repeats of a dozen based on the front runners. I can bet the front runner till I get the 2nd repeat:

11 1
11 21
11 231

Or I can stop early if I don't get the 2nd repeat in X spins:

11 23

Or I can wait out certain spins or change to a different front runner, etc.

I have tried every possible way of playing 2 repeats, but the long term result is always the same: break even! It doesn't even tilt one side to wins/losses. It's just plain old break even. I have attached a spreadsheet so people can test for themselves based on 1 million spins:
Download dozens2repeats.xlsx...

If we cannot tilt 1 repeat of a dozen and we cannot tilt 2 repeats of a dozen then it follows that the numbers game is also break even.

You are either randomly guessing or trying to follow a previous set of random past spins, so the result is the same.

12... I guess dozen 1+3 and I have a 66% chance of winning.
12... I guess a 1+2 repeat and I have a 66% chance of winning.

I never won the repeat. I won the 66% chance bet - one or more independent static bets. The repeat formed by itself as a natural pattern based on the "unique" labels I chose for 1 and 2. Another player at the table who played the 2 spins before I arrived could have labelled them as a repeat instead of uniques:
1212

We cannot predict repeats/uniques. The wheel doesn't make any distinctions - it's us that places the labels depending on our viewpoint.

I just spun number 7 - dozen 1 again:

1

Now the properties of that dozen 1 has everything to do with whatever past number sequence I decide to put in front of it:

2             1... here it's a unique
12           1... here our 1 is a 1st repeat
1231       1... here our 1 is a 2nd repeat

So it all depends what random past spins you take in order to determine whether something has repeated or not. One man's repeat is another man's unique. Again, cannot be used for prediction.

I'll prove that you cannot predict a repeat:

Each dozen is equally-likely:
1
2
3

Now I can take any 2 unique dozens and put them in front of the above, and I will end up with more chance of a repeat:
    1
122
    3

    1
312
    3

So I didn't predict anything - patterns form independent of my prediction

I blindly look back on the marquee and find a number (9) that is dozen 1:

1...

Now I have 33% chance for dozen 1,2 or 3 some 10 spins later...

11...
or
12...
or
13...

However, since 2/3 outcomes don't match the earlier dozen 1, there is a 66% chance the dozen will be different to any past (random) dozen I decide to put in front of the latest dozen:

12...
or
13...

Again, there's 33% chance we can get dozen 1,2 or 3 next spin, but when I put it after 2 previous unique dozens from the past I get a 66% chance of matching one of them - simply by the laws of number sequences (combinatorics) and natural patterns:

121
122
131
133

So the repeat has nothing to do with prediction - it's an illusion that hides the fact we are playing individual static bets - resulting in break even over the long-term.

[6th-sense]

Please be polite

I think you did not understand me. Casinos privides large panels where you can look up the hot numbers.

Sorry Andre ..was the comment alone ..and again just because you steve and everyone else cannot fathom what works and you all know definitely what doesn’t..you cannot make the claim a system doesn’t work..
No one would tell..it’s a catch 22
Yes the odds are there steve there’s no disputing that
But what else is there too
What the Ying to your yang
Think you all need to read my thread over and over
No disputes on the odds and there’s no disputes on what happens in a 37 spin cycle
The casino cannot get away from that game after game continuously

[Steve]

Turbo already revealed his system. Here, it would be virtually identical to this:

1. Start betting 1 unit on any hit numbers. These are mostly just placeholders for now to track whcih numbers he believes is "becoming hot". Focus on 37 spin cycles.

2. When you get a repeater, just bet on the repeater, but with larger bet (progression). Do this the same for any repeaters. Gradually increase bet size each time a number repeats in the cycle. Bet only the "hot numbers".

3. Keep going until you either finish the cycle or have increased your bankroll. Then go back to step 1, but starting with a higher bet. Repeat.

It doesn't work for the reason I already explained. Check Turbos logic and claims. The system I've explained is it.

[cht]

Turbo already revealed his system. Here, it would be virtually identical to this:

1. Start betting 1 unit on any hit numbers. These are mostly just placeholders for now to track whcih numbers he believes is "becoming hot". Focus on 37 spin cycles.

2. When you get a repeater, just bet on the repeater, but with larger bet (progression). Do this the same for any repeaters. Gradually increase bet size each time a number repeats in the cycle. Bet only the "hot numbers".

3. Keep going until you either finish the cycle or have increased your bankroll. Then go back to step 1, but starting with a higher bet. Repeat.

It doesn't work for the reason I already explained. Check Turbos logic and claims. The system I've explained is it.

You got TG's system.

According to you it doesn't work. Move on.
Stop spamming.

[MoneyT101]

Turbo already revealed his system. Here, it would be virtually identical to this:

1. Start betting 1 unit on any hit numbers. These are mostly just placeholders for now to track whcih numbers he believes is "becoming hot". Focus on 37 spin cycles.

2. When you get a repeater, just bet on the repeater, but with larger bet (progression). Do this the same for any repeaters. Gradually increase bet size each time a number repeats in the cycle. Bet only the "hot numbers".

3. Keep going until you either finish the cycle or have increased your bankroll. Then go back to step 1, but starting with a higher bet. Repeat.

It doesn't work for the reason I already explained. Check Turbos logic and claims. The system I've explained is it.

That’s not turbos system!

What you just described will lose!  Nobody try this at home!  It will fail!

If that’s your understanding of his system after pages and pages of this conversation.  You my friend are lost 😂

[jekhb76]

AndreChass, why do you act like you are a frigging roulette guru? You know nothing. I remember you joining not so long ago asking people for a winning strategy and you were betting the Romanosky strategy daily. But I must say your English has improved along the way unlike jekhb (Eddy's) and passionruleta. Stop acting like you know-it-all remember when you've started there was something wrong with your leg or back and you were saying you have no life and that you have like 5000 dollars or euro left and wanted to have a life. So stop patronizing and remember where you come from.

Also chasing repeaters only is losing in the long run. Flatbetting and winning is possible, but you need to a firm understanding of a spin cycle. Because a cycle has it's limits, every single time.

There's nothing wrong with my English. What makes you think that?

[junscissorhands]

Pointing out all your mistakes is going to take me millions of years. Just your last two posts for now :

Reveil = reveal

Tripple =triple

Also your use of capital letters is terrible.

People here notice it too, but none has corrected you.

[falkor2k15]

That’s not turbos system!

What you just described will lose!  Nobody try this at home!  It will fail!

If that’s your understanding of his system after pages and pages of this conversation.  You my friend are lost 😂

What detail is Steve missing re: Turbo's? Are you able to quote anything from all those pages? Otherwise we have to accept that all Turbo has naively revealed is covered by Steve's summary. There is nothing special about hot numbers as Turbo continues to emphasise and as addressed by Steve. What hasn't Steve addressed? There's nothing in this... myths have been dispelled. Even your tests failed too: 4 streams and positions. Everything just breaks even, so let's just accept reality. If there is a way to win then this thread has zero merit. There's no original ideas here...