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Title: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 20, 02:43 PM 2012
Cloud 9

Divide the boad into 4 sectors of nine:

[1-9]  [10-18]  [19-27]  [28-36]

Wait unit one sector remain unhit for 8 spins then bet all 9 numbers in that sector with progression until hit.

Progression 9 number =
  1.1.1.2.2.3.4.5.7.9.12.16.22.30.40.55
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Kattila on Dec 20, 03:09 PM 2012
Better bet on any active or hot 9 number group NOT  bet on sleeper ........belive me ,
i play often 9 numbers groups (inside and outside).
See examples how can sleep one 9 number group : i see this every day :
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Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 20, 03:27 PM 2012
Thanks Kattila.

I did a short test. Bet the first sector of nine hit 2 times in a row..? (with progression, until hit)
didn't work so well. I think waiting 8 spins for an unhit sector works better...
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Turner on Dec 20, 04:08 PM 2012
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 20, 03:27 PM 2012
Thanks Kattila.

I did a short test. Bet the first sector of nine hit 2 times in a row..? (with progression, until hit)
didn't work so well. I think waiting 8 spins for an unhit sector works better...
ignatus...did you consider doing a short test before posting?
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 20, 04:11 PM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Dec 20, 04:08 PM 2012
ignatus...did you consider doing a short test before posting?

I have. It works good.
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: TwoCatSam on Dec 20, 09:09 PM 2012
Man, you have to stick with something for a while. 

Trying to be your friend here.............

A few hundred or a few thousand spins is like a teardrop in the ocean.

Sam
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: MrJ on Dec 20, 09:21 PM 2012
19 new methods per week, I'm really not sure what to say.

Ken
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Skakus on Dec 20, 09:37 PM 2012
Quote from: MrJ on Dec 20, 09:21 PM 2012
19 new methods per week, I'm really not sure what to say.

Ken
I think you know exactly what to say but the forum censorship rules with turn it into jibberish. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 21, 03:17 AM 2012
Hey Ignatus :)  Merry Christmas and salute to all the work you do  :thumbsup:

Katilla is one of the sages on here, good to listen.

I like the unhit strategy, may not be practcal in a Brick and Mortar environment though.
If there were a way the betting sectors could "move"--you mentioned something like warming numbers in a previous thread?--Like if the sector hit once it's warming--then a new unhit sector hits that sector is the new warming sector..and on.and on...
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: GARNabby on Dec 21, 11:28 AM 2012
Quote from: Skakus on Dec 20, 09:37 PM 2012
Gibberish!
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: iggiv on Dec 21, 12:15 PM 2012
betting on cold numbers is a classical gambler fallacy. Betting on hot numbers is trying to catch a trend which is NOT a classical gambler fallacy. Make your conclusions Ignatus.


Quote from: Kattila on Dec 20, 03:09 PM 2012
Better bet on any active or hot 9 number group NOT  bet on sleeper ........belive me ,
i play often 9 numbers groups (inside and outside).
See examples how can sleep one 9 number group : i see this every day :
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Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 21, 01:07 PM 2012
Quote from: iggiv on Dec 21, 12:15 PM 2012
betting on cold numbers is a classical gambler fallacy. Betting on hot numbers is trying to catch a trend which is NOT a classical gambler fallacy. Make your conclusions Ignatus.

Yes, but in what way would you bet on an "active" sector of nine? I was thinking wait for a sector to be hit, then wait 3 (?) spins before betting..... Haven't really figured that out yet..
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Kattila on Dec 21, 01:17 PM 2012
Hi Ignatus,
try this way.....consider hot group any group which hit at least 3 times in the last 6 or 7 spins,
or active group any group which hit twice in the last 6 spins. Attack only 4 times one hot or active
group , if win or lose take another one hot or active group and bet again only 4 times...so on...
can play flat bet or with positive progression
cheers
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 21, 01:21 PM 2012
Quote from: Kattila on Dec 21, 01:17 PM 2012
Hi Ignatus,
try this way.....consider hot group any group which hit at least 3 times in the last 6 or 7 spins,
or active group any group which hit twice in the last 6 spins. Attack only 4 times one hot or active
group , if win or lose take another one hot or active group and bet again only 4 times...so on...
can play flat bet or with positive progression
cheers

Kattila. Thanks! I will try this!  ;D
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: catalyst on Dec 21, 05:25 PM 2012
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 20, 02:43 PM 2012
Cloud 9

Divide the boad into 4 sectors of nine:

[1-9]  [10-18]  [19-27]  [28-36]

Wait unit one sector remain unhit for 8 spins then bet all 9 numbers in that sector with progression until hit.

Progression 9 number =
  1.1.1.2.2.3.4.5.7.9.12.16.22.30.40.55


the system shows the depth of understanding of roulette of some members! vey poorly constructed! total nonsense!
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 21, 05:53 PM 2012
Quote from: catalyst on Dec 21, 05:25 PM 2012

the system shows the depth of understanding of roulette of some members! vey poorly constructed! total nonsense!

You can be poorly constructed. What's your problem? Modification has already been done by Katilla.
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: rouletteKEY on Dec 21, 06:42 PM 2012
Ignatus...I don't have a comment on this method

But..........just of pure curiosity

You had two methods that were using a small number of hot numbers that were showing favorably on your testing...did they ultimately fail in further testing?

Or did you abandon methods that were in their preliminary stages, testing well, to divert your attention to method number 23,106 here?

Like I said...just curious as to the train of thought on this whole adventure that led us to this method.
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 21, 07:06 PM 2012
Quote from: rouletteKEY on Dec 21, 06:42 PM 2012
Ignatus...I don't have a comment on this method

But..........just of pure curiosity

You had two methods that were using a small number of hot numbers that were showing favorably on your testing...did they ultimately fail in further testing?

Or did you abandon methods that were in their preliminary stages, testing well, to divert your attention to method number 23,106 here?

Like I said...just curious as to the train of thought on this whole adventure that led us to this method.

Had some success with Juggler, but playing live didn't go so well. (got tired after neutral trend for 200 spins etc) Tried with less numbers that didn't work so good either. I Know many people say "less numbers is better" but I don't think that's true. To play with hotnumbers and repeaters 5-9 numbers should be bet. (Minimum) Don't wish to critizise Soggett's method. But 4 numbers won't last in the long run. That's my experience anyway....

I haven't been able to perfect the hotnumbers and repeter strategies yet. Only way less numbers COULD work is playing with one number only. But I haven't really tried that yet, (and I don't have the patience for playing with one number either) :S

Had some success with betting 4 numbers with progression though. But playing with less numbers is always dangerous. (with or without progression) That's my opinion

Cloud 9 Seemed to be a good strategy from a short test. But then nothing is 100% safe, playing with progression is always a dangerous road, Yes. I'm thankful for Katilla's opinion, and it's sure better to play his way, flatbetting.
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: Smoczoor on Dec 21, 07:30 PM 2012
Dear friend - your Juggler it was huge step forward. Negative progression systems are step backward. Maybe you need few days rest and back with clear mind to tweak Juggler :)
Title: Re: Cloud 9
Post by: ignatus on Dec 21, 07:45 PM 2012
Quote from: Smoczoor on Dec 21, 07:30 PM 2012
Dear friend - your Juggler it was huge step forward. Negative progression systems are step backward. Maybe you need few days rest and back with clear mind to tweak Juggler :)

Thanks. ;) Yes that may be true.

Anyway I just tried this program "spinmaster" Amazing software! (thanks proof!) Think it's the only program I ever need. (don't need Roulette Xtreme anymore using this!)

I think about how to perfect my hotnumbers/repeater strategies.

Cheers