Betvoyager for US players

[N0vocane]

Hi, I live in the United States and I really want to play at Betvoyager but I can't.  Every goddamn casino that accepts US players has cheating RNG software and offers shitty limits.  The UK online casinos are regulated and Betvoyager has a honest RNG.  

Has any other USA players found a way around this?

I was able to open an account saying I was from the UK but I can't deposit.  Moneybookers and all the other ewallets know I'm from the USA and block my deposits.  

If there are any honest roulette casinos that offer USA players, please let me know or if anyone knows a way to play at Betvoyager please shoot me a message.  Thanks guys

[chrisbis]

Wouldn't this sort of blocking Breach Free Trade Agreements?




Is it possible for U to use a piece of software like TEAMVIEWER
and have some else place the bets for U on Ur behalf?

Could set up an instant messaging chat line up for the results, and lay the bets for U.

Has anyone else ever done this before?

[N0vocane]

I think it's actually violates our constitutional right.  Who is the United States Government to tell me what I can and can't do in my own home.  If I want to play a game on my computer in my home it's not the governments right to tell me I cant do that, but they somehow have.

What's even worse is that they are letting casinos that are cheating and stealing peoples money stay online but honest and fair casinos are banned.  It's messed up. 

[chrisbis]

Sounds it.

Could playing with a mobile dongle help in anyway? (internet mobile connection)

[N0vocane]

The problem is not opening a account, I have a betvoyager account.  The problem is depositing.  My credit card and bank accounts are in the United States and all the ewallets wont let you deposit to casinos if you are in the States.

I'm in the process of trying another method, I signed up for a webmoney account and bought a wmz card online.  I'm waiting to receive the info in a couple days.  I might be able to deposit that way.  We'll see.  But I was just wondering if anyone else has found a way around this.

Maybe I can open up a bank account online in the UK or some other country? That might work.  I'll look into it.

[ThomasGrant]

Perhaps I may be of assistance.
I have helped members from the USA deposit into BV.
The process is very simple.

Members from the USA that find it hard to deposit into BV.
Can contact me on Skype. thomasgrant

Then they send me money into my PayPal account.
I put the money into their BV account via Neteller.

Taking out money is even easier.
I send them money via my Paypal account.
As I have my PayPal linked to my Neteller debit card.

I charge a flat rate of $20 for transaction.
As I loose a fair bit in money transfers.
This is only for Deposits.
Not for withdraws.

Up to those that members from the USA to contact me.
If they wish me to do this for them.

I have done this before.
And can send info of members that I have done it for.

Alternatively...
One of the members told me that one of the payment options.
Worked for them.
But I forgot what one.

[N0vocane]

That would be awesome.  I'm working on WebMoney right now.  i purchased some wmz credits and am waiting for the approval on it.  If that works I should be able to deposit, if not I will definitely contact you and be sending you money.

Thanks for the help, I've been working on this problem for a long time now and finally have some help.  I really appreciate it!

[N0vocane]

Just wanted to make a quick update.  I did find a way to deposit, it's very simple actually.  The only problem will be withdrawing money and when it comes time for that I will probably be contacting Thomas Grant. 

If anyone wants to know how to do it, send me a pm.  I don't want to post it on the open forum because U. S players are not supposed to be playing on there and I don't want to loose my playing opportunity just in case too many people start doing it and start causing problems or something.  It is honestly the best online casino I have ever played at and I am incredibly lucky to have figured this out.  It's also nice to be able to play online and not have to worry about getting cheated. 

The only thing the anti gambling law did was help cheating casinos take more money from people.  The true online casinos that follow the rules went away and the bad ones stayed of course without any regulation or consequences for their actions.

[ThomasGrant]

Just wanted to make a quick update.  I did find a way to deposit, it's very simple actually.  The only problem will be withdrawing money and when it comes time for that I will probably be contacting Thomas Grant. 

If anyone wants to know how to do it, send me a pm.  I don't want to post it on the open forum because U. S players are not supposed to be playing on there and I don't want to lose my playing opportunity just in case too many people start doing it and start causing problems or something.  It is honestly the best online casino I have ever played at and I am incredibly lucky to have figured this out.  It's also nice to be able to play online and not have to worry about getting cheated. 

The only thing the anti gambling law did was help cheating casinos take more money from people.  The true online casinos that follow the rules went away and the bad ones stayed of course without any regulation or consequences for their actions.

Great news...
Could you send me a pm please with the information on how you figured it out.
So I could post it for US members under my name.
That way, you wont get blamed.
If that is ok with you that is.
Or just send me the pm.
And I will keep it to myself.
For future reference for US players that contact me.

[crownroyal]

Iââ,¬â,,¢m also a frustrated US citizen who wants to play at Bet Voyager! Youââ,¬â,,¢ve got to love  this casino for offering players low minimum wagers and a LEGITIMATE RNG !! Unfortunately, as Americans we canââ,¬â,,¢t play there coz weââ,¬â,,¢ve elected ourselves a pathetic group of bloated bureaucrats with crap for brains.  This ridiculous law went into effect to appease a bunch of wealthy, crybaby, Washington lobbyists representing the brick & mortar casino industry in Nevada, New Jersey, and a few other states.  There is currently  a bill (HR2267) in congress  that would legalize online gambling in the US.  For more info Google HR2267.  Call, write, or send a petition to your congressman to show support for this legislation.  Maybe we can put an end to this nonsense.     

[Twisteruk]

It amazes me that such a Free Country as yours stops you spending your money how you please (within reason of course)

I would die if that day happened in England. But somehow I think it would be illegal or against our human rights blah blah if you know what I mean.

As for BV I can vouch for them. I played their No Zero Roulette today and, as they say, if they try and swiddle you the checksum will be out. Very fair casino. Infact the ONLY RNG I would play.

Hope our Friends across the Pond find themselves in a better position to play soon !!!

[crownroyal]

It amazes me that such a Free Country as yours stops you spending your money how you please (within reason of course)

I would die if that day happened in England.  But somehow I think it would be illegal or against our human rights blah blah if you know what I mean.

As for BV I can vouch for them.  I played their No Zero Roulette today and, as they say, if they try and swiddle you the checksum will be out.  Very fair casino.  Infact the ONLY RNG I would play.

Hope our Friends across the Pond find themselves in a better position to play soon !!!

It's sad but true,twisteruk.  They overtax us and then want to control how we spend what little is left over.  It really sucks!! 

[crownroyal]

For those of you who donââ,¬â,,¢t already know the story and may be interested, hereââ,¬â,,¢s how it all went down.  In 2006 GW Bush was pushing some piece of legislation and didnââ,¬â,,¢t have the necessary votes for passage.  He had to cut a few back room deals with congress and one of those deals was the internet gambling law.  In other words, politics as usual! This law really sucks unless you own a casino in Vegas, Atlantic City, or your a member of some fanatical religious group that opposes gambling.  The feds left the enforcement of this law up to the individual states.  40 of the 50 states, blew it off and refused to enforce it.  However, hereââ,¬â,,¢s the real kicker, these federal Nit Wits also made it illegal for American Financial Institutions to process online casino transactions.  So, weââ,¬â,,¢re screwed! Canââ,¬â,,¢t make deposits and withdrawals. 

[ThomasGrant]

Well, I am here to assist ANY Player from the USA.
Any player that wishes any assistance.
In setting up an account.
In depositing money.
In withdrawing money.
Then you may if you wish.
Contact me on Skype: thomasgrant
And I will be more than glad to assist you.

[crownroyal]

I was finally able to make a Bet Voyager deposit with the help of Thomas Grant.  I simply transferred money from my Paypal account to his and Thomas did the rest.  It was a very smooth transaction.  If youââ,¬â,,¢re a US citizen, this is probably the easiest and safest way to handle deposits and withdrawals.   You can send Thomas a PM on this forum or contact him on Skype.  thomasgrant