Hi
I have tried all day to make a movie of this, but the screen capture software and the bot conflict and I can't do it. I just flat give up. So I'll just post a screen shot and tell you I have gone up 133 Euro (fun Euro) today betting nickels. The most I was down was about 100 Euro. The test is to see if I can win 1,000 E in fun money and then go for real.
Sam
sam, try to find Snipping Tool in start > all programs > accessories
with this tool you can mark any window and it makes screenshot.
But will it make a movie?
Did you try Hyper Cam 2?
Normy
No I haven't but if I don't get some success pretty soon with WM Capture, I will.
OK, folks, here is the latest shot. Since Stef perfected the bot, the L v F system has won 248 Euro with a max draw down of around 91 euro.
Sam
You don't give up do you Sam :)
I take it the method is the same but the bot allows you to run some pretty long sessions.
No stoploss?
Trebor
trebor
If I gave up, what would an old, retired man do with himself? :'( So, no, I won't give up. Like ignatus, I may get whipped, but like The Terminator, "I'll be back!"
Yes, there is a stop loss. The bot allows you the put at risk whatever you wish. I put 500 Euro (fun) at risk and went down around 91 E. I would hope that when I win my 1,000 and go to real Euros, I won't lose more than 100.
The method is exactly the same. Almost. I set the Excel sheet for 72/-72 and when it loses, the bot raises the bet by one unit. When it wins, down by one unit. This is D'Alembert by trot! Lose a trot, go up; win a trot, go down.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 06, 12:11 PM 2013
If I gave up, what would an old, retired man do with himself? :'( So, no, I won't give up. Like ignatus, I may get whipped, but like The Terminator, "I'll be back!"
Sam,
Ever looked at the Icon i use for my bot ? ;D
Stef
Maybe I better get out me magnifier before I answer that. Yes, I've looked at it.
Sam
Up nearly 300 for two days
The bot still doesn't work with win xp, right?
Hello Marivo . . .
The bot now works on XP.
Cheers
Nick
I won't reveal how much LvF won since first day of new year/individually session by session,and making
one session,switching tables,out of 4 sessions/.....if there was ever a winning long run bet then explore
this and find out if that is so.Bots are not interesting for me as I don't trust cinema roulette,only live.
The snipping tool works perfectly.
Trying Hyper Cam 2 later on.
Stef, I don't know what that is. Is it a little man?
Sam
Its a little terminator :-D
ExcelBot Tutorial (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=CKiYb4dTROQ#ws)
Quote from: Nickmsi on Feb 07, 09:36 AM 2013
Hello Marivo . . .
The bot now works on XP.
Cheers
Nick
For me it doesn't want to open roulette window....
over 100 e today
Quote from: marivo on Feb 07, 06:19 PM 2013
For me it doesn't want to open roulette window....
Hi Marivo,
Can you tell me the following.
What service Pack do you have on XP ?
What .Net Framework is running on your Windows ?
Stef
My first 100 unit day.
Today I went up 200 units. Had a couple of bad days trying to run the bot on a Vista computer.
Am now at around 1,700.
Sam
Quote from: Stepkevh on Feb 07, 08:50 PM 2013
Hi Marivo,
Can you tell me the following.
What service Pack do you have on XP ?
What .Net Framework is running on your Windows ?
Stef
Service pack 3.
And this:
Rapidly approaching the #1,000 level of gain.
Gentlemen
I have reached the #1,000 level in my test. I don't know how many, but I'd guess several thousand bets--probably several tens of thousands.
But I've decided to err or the side of caution. I've been using a #200 bankroll and I've lost it twice. I will test again using a #50 bankroll and seeking to win #10 per session. This is more realistic.
Sam
Shame there is only one table there,but when and if you get the time do some test on DB changing 4 tables.
In case you do....rules are all same expect after any plus on certain table,move to other following last 9 from the
pravious table.I assure you will find this very interesting...as you wish....all flat.
Getting back to something positive................
Been running the L v F on the ExcelBot. I accept Ralph's statement--something like play and real are the same at BV. It went something like that.
How do you say something works? A batter consistently hits 40%. Misses 60%. What team would love to have him? Pay him millions?
Same with this bot/system. Does it win every trot? No!! From time to time, it loses 100E. For every 100 it looses, it wins about 400.
So why am I still in play money. Well, my wife asks that daily--waving her checkbook around like a boomerang.
I am keeping an exact record of what it going on. Not just the bot, but what to do when BV crashes. The bot NEVER crashes.
I suspect that when I hit a profit of 2,000 I/we will fork over the money and go for real. Then we shall see if the play scenario and the real scenario match up.
Right now I am at around 1,300 profit play money. I tried setting the thing to win 10 or lose 50 and that was a tragedy. I lost 200 before I could turn around. It needs a cushion (coussin gonflable!) of money to go down and come back.
More as it happens.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 18, 12:54 PM 2013
Getting back to something positive................
It needs a cushion (coussin gonflable!) of money to go down and come back.
More as it happens.
Sam
As I always pointed out,without decent BR don't even tray to play...but even then the method
must be able to bear out such DD...and when eventually it fails that you are still standing up.
That's the point.
link:://youtu.be/1d7RQf8qyzM (link:://youtu.be/1d7RQf8qyzM)
Progress Report
Well, I've been running the bot quite a bit. I'm betting real money.
One thing I've learned is that the chops are far more frequent than the runs. I know this is impossible, but it is true.
It is almost a miracle if you get four Ls or four Fs in a row. Usually three is the limit.
I am thinking about a new way of playing--a piggy-back method, if you please. Using a D'Alembert, I feel I could score quite easily on the fourth and fifth of either L or F. It seems the Fs are far more prone to winning than the Ls.
I've been around longer than a daddy possum and I'll vouchsafe for this. It's a good method. It ain't the "Holy Grail", but it's a darn good method.
Those who wish to make some coin should look into it.
Sam
you are right but just had this:
29 14 last 17-14-04-16-18-05-12-01-06 b 8 2 w
33 18 last 17-04-16-18-05-12-01-06-14 b 9 2 w
8 05 last 17-04-16-05-12-01-06-14-18 b 1 1 w
4 01 last 17-04-16-12-01-06-14-18-05 b 2 1 w
8 05 last 17-04-16-12-06-14-18-05-01 b 3 1 w :)
and all session wl looks like:
w
w
l
w
l
w
l
w
w
l
l
l
w
l
w
l
l
l
w
w
w
l
w
l
l
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
biagle
How often do you see five wins in a row for either F or L? For me it is very--extremely--rare! I've spent hours watching it. I see many runs of red/black out to the left. But no runs on the w/l registry.
Sam
I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!
No sooner had I typed that than I got eight w in a row!!
GO FIGURE!!
One Amazed Samster
i saw many more 5 when was playing live wheel. Now I'm on BV, because can play with base bet 0.02
Dear Sam,
And all
Hi
Can you tell me where i can find the the original method LvF so i can try to test it into a tracker? I cannot seem to find it on the forum.
Regards,
Alex
Alex
There is both a tracker and a robot. I will attach the tracker.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 27, 09:04 AM 2013
Alex
There is both a tracker and a robot. I will attach the tracker.
Sam
Thank you, Sam
I will have a look!
Regards,
Alex
Take care with this guys.
Just lost 4000 units real money over the weekend and yesterday :'(
Quote from: Shogun on Feb 27, 09:59 AM 2013
Take care with this guys.
Just lost 4000 units real money over the weekend and yesterday :'(
may i ask where? in witch casino?
Guys
I have never said you would not have draw downs. They come with the territory.
If you were playing pennies at BV, that would be $40. Now, that's a big draw down for pennies. I am quite safe with half that much.
Something you must know about BV, if that's where you were playing. It is not uncommon to get the RFH. By the same token, you can get a dream run that will last a couple of hours. When I see I'm on the RFH, I go up and change the settings to 60 and 10 or maybe 5. Sometimes that will turn the whole thing around.
Sometimes you get both in the same game. I just went like crazy up to 63. One more win and I'd be out. It went straight down from there and I lost the game. Zero had no part in it. I've seen it almost lose and go straight up to win.
It's Randy Random doing his thing.
Sam
Quote from: Shogun on Feb 27, 09:59 AM 2013
Take care with this guys.
Just lost 4000 units real money over the weekend and yesterday :'(
IF YOU PLAYED IT IN ORIGINAL VERSION-CYCLES OF 9 SPINS--D'Alambert.......IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE
TO LOSE THAT MUCH IN NIGHT SESSION......as if you didn't won a single cycle.
6 sessions in a row w:
w/l
w 72u
w 81u
w 72u
w 72u
w 72u
w 81u
if i win 100eur with this 0.02 bets i will take Stef robot LoL
biagle
If I may offer input, don't be discouraged by a loss. Losses come. It's what you have after fifty sessions that counts.
Winning what you have using .02 bets is nothing short of fantastic.
Sam
Quote from: biagle on Feb 27, 10:03 AM 2013
may i ask where? in witch casino?
Hi guys,
I was playing at BVNZ with the bot..05 chips. And the loss came over a few sessions.
Cheers.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 27, 09:51 PM 2013
biagle
If I may offer input, don't be discouraged by a loss. Losses come. It's what you have after fifty sessions that counts.
Winning what you have using .02 bets is nothing short of fantastic.
Sam
im already in big loss with roulette so no problem :yawn:
Quote from: Shogun on Feb 27, 11:20 PM 2013
Hi guys,
I was playing at BVNZ with the bot..05 chips. And the loss came over a few sessions.
Cheers.
I never recomm.RNG in my methods.
Here's a report on last night:
Betting pennies, BVSZ, went up 25 Euro. Betting pennies, that's 2,500 units. Largest draw down was 1.53 Euro.
Here is the most curious thing about this way of playing. When you get a good run of numbers, it can last for hours on end. When you get a bad run, change the number shift feature to + 5 or 10 and see if you get better numbers.
Here's the deal: I've been running this thing for hundreds of thousands of spins in play money and thousands in real money and I see no difference. Could it crash today? Yes, it could. I look for the U.S. stock market to crash sooner.
Stef has incorporated a new feature in the bot. Fast as I can come up with ideas, that bloke can write them in. I can promise you one thing: This bot and it's iterations with do nothing but get better.
Since I logged onto this forum, it has made 121 units. It went down 36 units. No flies on that cupcake!
Sam
sorry for writing in your tracker test theard, but this is my results for last 15 sessions:
unit w/l
ses1 0.02 w 72 1+
ses2 0.02 w 81 2+
ses3 0.02 w 72 3+
ses4 0.02 w 72 4+
ses5 0.02 w 72 5+
ses6 0.02 w 81 6+
ses7 0.02 w 72 7+
ses8 0.02 w 81 8+
ses9 0.02 w 72 9+
ses10 0.02 w 72 10+
ses11 0.02 w 72 11+
ses12 0.02 w 72 12+
ses13 0.02 l 81- 11+
ses14 0.04 w 180 13+
ses15 0.02 w 81 14+
~1050units +
biagle
Brother, you write to your heart's content!
I am not sure what this is. However, I will not be like some folks who claim the casinos will ban them for excessive wins. I've been around the block long enough to know it may fail. I don't live in an illusions world as some do.
We will see what it does. Fair and Balanced, as the saying goes.
Right now, as I type, the other computer is playing. The zeros are killing me.
I may have to "feather" my losing streak, but that is a whole new topic. Can't wait for folks to tell me that won't work, either.
Sam
I'm playing like you in video
first session base bet 0.02 to + or - 72U
if lose next bet +1: 0.04 to + or - 72U and so on
i was banned from william hill for playing this method, won 60eur and they said goodbye to me
Hey
Wish you cold have seen the RFH I just had. Zeros flocked in like ants at a picnic. So now I am "feathering" the progression hoping for a change in latitude!
I knew a rough patch was out there; I may lose everything I gained last night. That is the way this thing goes. It's just aggrivating.
Hopefully, when the U.S. opens up to gambling, there will be rules which say the casino canonly limit your wins and not ban you completely for winning. It is patently unfair to offer a game where you can only win--you ban winners so you win! That's like the bully kid who plays you a game and then whips your butt for winning!!
Holy Cow--I'm on a comeback!! No zeros.
Sam
Feeling the need to bloviate this morning!!
Hear me now and believe me later.
FEATHERING THE D'ALEMBERT
Let's assume you were playing a Martingale and got LLLLL:ww. Maybe you won; maybe you lost. What if it was LwLwLwLwLw? Yep, you would have won. The D'Alembert is a slow version of the Martingale. It does not seek to win back all loses plus the unit of profit it one spin, but rather over many. The "hiccups" are the best part of the D'Alembert. (More on that later.)
What I am doing with the ExcelBot is just letting it be until it has about 8X the normal bet. This means I've had some bad runs. I know some good runs are coming. I divide the 8 into 4 and 4. I let the bot work with 4 and write the other 4 on a post-it note. I call this the "fridge" and the 4 the "leftovers". So I wait around for my good run. May go down even further. I am usually seeking a better trot. (More on that later.) When the bot wins one, I take it a leftover out of the fridge and put it in the bot. I now have 4 in the bot and 3 in the fridge. This has worked for me for years.
I cannot say this will always work, but so far it has worked exceptionally well.
THE D'ALEMBERT HICCUPS
Let's say you were betting red. It went bbrbrbrbrbr......and so on. The rb is a hiccup. Let's say you had $5 on red to start. With each loss you go up $5. So it would be 5 10 15 10 15 10 and so on. Each time you win, you win $15. Each time you lose, you lose $10. I have played this on baccarat and achieved my goal with eight or ten notations left of the sheet.
SHOPPING FOR A BETTER TROT
Some days I just can't lose. The numbers are just what the L v F system wants. Some days the numbers are just exactly 180 degrees out. Couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bucket!! What to do.
I used logic. A number can be changed 36 ways on BV using their sequence feature. What if the numbers were all wrong? That means there is a variation of those numbers that are all right. I change the sequence from 0 to 1. See what it does. Not good? Change to 2. And so on. After a while I find a setting that coincides with the L v F and it starts winning. Will this go on forever? Geez, I hope so!
There it is in a humongous nutshell.
Comments?
Rocks?
Sam
ok, in 2 days played 30 sessions here are wl:
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
l
w
l
w
l
l
w
l
w
l
l
l
l
w
w
+ -
2718 1746
~1000units+
Guys
I had one rough day today. The zeros just ate me up--again! I lost 20 Euro while at the movies and out to eat.
While away, I could not shop for a good trot nor could I feather the D'Alembert. It took me four losses to find a good trot tonight. I am on the way back up.
I got on an excellent trot earlier and got cut off. Such is life. If it were easy, everyone would do it.
Sam
im done, busted:)
who is next after me or witch system?:) link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12209.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12209.0) this one next for me
was ~1000units up, then down what 1000 + my own 1000
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 28, 12:56 PM 2013
Feeling the need to bloviate this morning!!
Hear me now and believe me later.
FEATHERING THE D'ALEMBERT
Let's assume you were playing a Martingale and got LLLLL:ww. Maybe you won; maybe you lost. What if it was LwLwLwLwLw? Yep, you would have won. The D'Alembert is a slow version of the Martingale. It does not seek to win back all loses plus the unit of profit it one spin, but rather over many. The "hiccups" are the best part of the D'Alembert. (More on that later.)
What I am doing with the ExcelBot is just letting it be until it has about 8X the normal bet. This means I've had some bad runs. I know some good runs are coming. I divide the 8 into 4 and 4. I let the bot work with 4 and write the other 4 on a post-it note. I call this the "fridge" and the 4 the "leftovers". So I wait around for my good run. May go down even further. I am usually seeking a better trot. (More on that later.) When the bot wins one, I take it a leftover out of the fridge and put it in the bot. I now have 4 in the bot and 3 in the fridge. This has worked for me for years.
I cannot say this will always work, but so far it has worked exceptionally well.
THE D'ALEMBERT HICCUPS
Let's say you were betting red. It went bbrbrbrbrbr......and so on. The rb is a hiccup. Let's say you had $5 on red to start. With each loss you go up $5. So it would be 5 10 15 10 15 10 and so on. Each time you win, you win $15. Each time you lose, you lose $10. I have played this on baccarat and achieved my goal with eight or ten notations left of the sheet.
SHOPPING FOR A BETTER TROT
Some days I just can't lose. The numbers are just what the L v F system wants. Some days the numbers are just exactly 180 degrees out. Couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bucket!! What to do.
I used logic. A number can be changed 36 ways on BV using their sequence feature. What if the numbers were all wrong? That means there is a variation of those numbers that are all right. I change the sequence from 0 to 1. See what it does. Not good? Change to 2. And so on. After a while I find a setting that coincides with the L v F and it starts winning. Will this go on forever? Geez, I hope so!
There it is in a humongous nutshell.
Comments?
Rocks?
Sam
The first part I like the best as it reminds me of my theory;D'Alembert leveling progression/not minus one after a win,but minus as it needs,already explained several times/.....
Quote from: biagle on Mar 01, 02:59 AM 2013
who is next after me or witch system?:) link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12209.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12209.0) this one next for me
was ~1000units up, then down what 1000 + my own 1000
---Just test it only as after 8 straight wins come to a loser......do it flat bet....it's easier and you can see if it would work D'Al.
yes, ~2000 units
playing dalambert in sessions +1-1
maybe i had to take your advice about fridge on bad run:)
Hey
I've been having a terrible run for the last two days. It happens. Maybe this time it will eat my lunch totally. I've never made "etched in stone" statements. I don't think I ever have. Maybe one or two.
All I can say is I hope you were playing pennies, not Euros.
This is not something that churns out money like the U.S. mint. It wins and it loses. Hopefully, over time, it will win more than it loses.
I've learned a new thing which I'll test and report on if it's good.
Sam
Hello
As I said, been having a rough trip. Switched sequences a dozen times. I am finally on a positive tram.
THIS MAY BE THE WORST OF THE GAMBLER'S FALLACY!
But I've seen it happen so many times, it's hard not to put some faith in it.
I have positive trots where you win right away.
Negative trots where you lose right away.
Mediocre trots where you go up and down and eventually win. That is what I'm on now and I will not change to seek a better one.
Truth is, it probably makes not a whit of difference.
We'll see...........
Sam
OK, I'm on a good run now!!
MORE GF
I have sat and watched this robot for hours on end. My wife is about ready to kick me arse out! I've seen something so many times, I can't believe it's just luck
When L hits, it is quite rare for it to get two in a row. When it does, it may get four or five. But the first L is usually followed by a loss.
Fs repeat far more times than Ls.
There must be a way to capitalize on this.
Sam
biagle
I want to thank you for being candid enough to admit you lost. I'm sorry you lost; I wish you would have won a ton. There are few who will try something and report a loss.
Sam
If someone would give me 1000 euro and i should play with it. I would play this method on LIVE WHEEL, I know it works
Just had bad run, and this system is not for BV think so now
It is just my experience and not facts.
by the way recovered all loss with swapping sectors O0
"this system is not for BV"
Well, I hope you're wrong there. I'm playing it at BV for real money. I have fought all day. First the zeros and the BV shutting down on me.
Tomorrow will be a better day.
Sam
Quote from: biagle on Mar 01, 07:00 PM 2013
If someone would give me 1000 euro and i should play with it. I would play this method on LIVE WHEEL, I know it works
Just had bad run, and this system is not for BV think so now
It is just my experience and not facts.
by the way recovered all loss with swapping sectors O0
Biagle,
The excelbot also runs on SmartLive and Dublinbet casino now in case your interested in Live casinos ;)
Stef
OK
With a large enough bankroll one could just set the bot, forget it and most likely win money! I would set it to win 100 against a loss of 200. With 1,000 units, I strongly feel you would win far more times than you lose. Something like seven or eight to one.
But I have a small bankroll, so I'm trying other things. Ralph says you must have luck. I agree. I am trying t find ways to increase the luck.
It is so different playing with real money than play money.
When I have learned all I can and have succeeded, I will open a tutorial thread and teach everything I know. If anyone wants to read it they may.
Hear me now and believe me later: This system can win when properly played.
Sam
If anyone cares...........
My best results for the past few days have been with flat betting. I won't disclose exactly how I've set the bot up at this time, but--here again--it "seems" to be working well. It is just as slow as thick mud.
The question is: Can I recover what I've lost thus far and move ahead? What I feared would happen did happen. I hit the RFH as soon as I started playing for real money. I have not changed the plan until now.
I just hit for the fourth time in a row. It absolutely amazes my that I can win with a .05 bet and can't with a .50 bet. The bot nor BV cares what is being bet. Yet it "seems" that when I raise the bet, I lose.
Five in a row!!! Geez......
Hit number six in a row while making Oolong tea.
Frankly I don't know which is worse--playing on the 0 table and having to pay a penny per spin to find my 9 or playing on the NZ table and paying the 10% tax. The zeros just ate me alive a couple of days ago.
If I lose, I will report. Then the people who never get off the bench and into the game can call me a loser.
And that's the name of that tune........
TwoCat
good luck Sam. im following this theard
Thanks, biagle.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 03, 09:34 PM 2013
If I lose, I will report. Then the people who never get off the bench and into the game can call me a loser.
And that's the name of that tune........
TwoCat
If Robeenhut comes and calls you a loser, i'll ride shotgun!
Still
Don't know how to take that. Explanation please?
Got an email telling me BV cheats and "I told you so." I don't know if they do or not. Sometimes it looks very suspicious.
Rob usually states the truthful obvious. I hold no ill will against anyone who does that.
I got up at 05:30 this morning to play and BV tells me the server will be down for two hours for maintenance. Such is life!
Sam
HA!
Played on BV so much I wore out the table!
Sam
I had no more posted that when BV went down.
What a sack of turds!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 01, 01:41 PM 2013
When L hits, it is quite rare for it to get two in a row. When it does, it may get four or five. But the first L is usually followed by a loss. Fs repeat far more times than Ls.
Sam
In the last few days I've seen a marked turnaround in the L not hitting twice in a row. Now Ls are hitting very nicely, thank you.
It was confirmation bias.
Sam