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Started by vile, Jun 11, 11:18 AM 2012

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vile

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 18, 02:40 PM 2012
This is a great method and already people are losing/have lost interest in it. STAYING POWER is sadly lacking amongst too many players in this game.

Well said JL

amk

I see what you mean Tom.

Just wanted to give a thank you to all for the great methods of last and for everyone's great efforts.

As JL says staying power is what is needed. Formulate a strategy and play. Using low stakes won't be too much of a loss incase you are one of the +-10% that can't get into the right cycle.

Looking at PATTERN BREAKER I like playing BIG after a virtual loss...........

Wally Gator

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 18, 02:40 PM 2012
This is a great method and already people are losing/have lost interest in it. STAYING POWER is sadly lacking amongst too many players in this game.


I'd like to be able to say the same thing.  But, I'm still waiting for someone to play the sequence of 500 spins I've posted twice.  Most recent is Reply #306.  Please play all 500 spins, not just the first 100 or so.


This can show everyone not only how it's played, but more importantly, how effective it is.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

Johnlegend

Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 18, 05:18 PM 2012

I'd like to be able to say the same thing.  But, I'm still waiting for someone to play the sequence of 500 spins I've posted twice.  Most recent is Reply #306.  Please play all 500 spins, not just the first 100 or so.


This can show everyone not only how it's played, but more importantly, how effective it is.
How on earth has this excellent method slipped off the top ten already. I have now played 150 games and not lost my progression yet. It really begs the question. What do people on these forums want?. If you cant see a winner when its gift wrapped and delivered to you. I dont know what hope there is.

Wally Gator

Perhaps they've played the spins I've provided.  This is the 3rd time I'm asking those who may be playing this accurately to play the spins I've provided and show the results (all 500+ spins, please).


I'd love to say the same as you Mr. Legend.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 22, 06:17 PM 2012
How on earth has this excellent method slipped off the top ten already. I have now played 150 games and not lost my progression yet. It really begs the question. What do people on these forums want?. If you can't see a winner when its gift wrapped and delivered to you. I don't know what hope there is.

What was yr largest draw down? And do u play with stop-loss?  Seriously You can not always expect 2 recover from 300+ units down. Vile won 40 games already so he can afford 2 lose 300u because he made 1200u already n yr strike rate always amazes me. 150/0. How did u manage 2 play so many games in such a short period of time?  ;D
I like this method 2.
Matt

Johnlegend

Wally direct me too your 500 spins please, Hutt Ive played over a 100 games on an RNG and about 40 online, Im playing 4 game sessions no more using the same 45 unit 4 step progression I use on PHASE 3, Theres been no drawdowns whatsoever, I measure a methods value by strikerate, NOTHING ELSE, The progression has been taken to the wire 8 times over those 150 games, But has survived, This method is in harmony with random thats why it works, A pity more people dont have the staying power,

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

OK, let me play the Village Idiot.......

Somewhere along the way I got lost.  We have the first version and the "tweaked" version.  I've looked at the sheets and I don't get it.

Perhaps the reason people lose interest in these threads is that they cannot find the latest set of rules.  I've just scanned through 23 pages and I still don't know how to play.

OK, that's my rant.......

Goodnight.....

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Johnlegend

I'm not sure I'm playing it 100% correct but its winning, What I do is simply track until I have 4 unique lines I,E 2 5 6 4, I then play for match on one of the last 3 of those 4 unique lines, And so far its never more than 4 attempts to hit one, After a win I retrack until I have another 4 unique liner, I do this for 4 games a session then shut it down,

Drazen

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 23, 01:45 AM 2012
OK, let me play the Village unintelligent.......

Somewhere along the way I got lost.  We have the first version and the "tweaked" version.  I've looked at the sheets and I don't get it.

Perhaps the reason people lose interest in these threads is that they cannot find the latest set of rules.  I've just scanned through 23 pages and I still don't know how to play.

OK, that's my rant.......

Goodnight.....

Sam


Mr TCS let me try to explain


Ok you go on last 3 lines until lose. After lose switch to furthest 3 until lose. That is 1 cycle and after that you raise or reduce chips depending on winning/non wining cycle.


5
3
5
2-start to bet last 3 (253)
2w
4L-switch to furthest from the ones you bet (those were 253-so now you bet 416)
1w
4w
5L-our cycle ends and again we bet last 3 so they are 541
1w
2L-now furthest again from last we were betting (furthest from 541 are 236)
6w
6w
5L last (562)
.
.
.



and so on


This is betting procedure and progression is 1+ 1- on cycle basis, not every won or lost bet


Is this helped mr. TCS?




Cheers


Drazen

Skakus

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 23, 01:45 AM 2012
OK, let me play the Village unintelligent.......

Somewhere along the way I got lost.  We have the first version and the "tweaked" version.  I've looked at the sheets and I don't get it.

Perhaps the reason people lose interest in these threads is that they cannot find the latest set of rules.  I've just scanned through 23 pages and I still don't know how to play.

OK, that's my rant.......

Goodnight.....

Sam

Village_idiot  :thumbsup:
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Turner

Quote from: drazen_cro on Jun 23, 02:29 AM 2012

Mr TCS let me try to explain


Ok you go on last 3 lines until lose. After lose switch to furthest 3 until lose. That is 1 cycle and after that you raise or reduce chips depending on winning/non wining cycle.


5
3
5
2-start to bet last 3 (253)
2w
4L-switch to furthest from the ones you bet (those were 253-so now you bet 416)
1w
4w
5L-our cycle ends and again we bet last 3 so they are 541
1w
2L-now furthest again from last we were betting (furthest from 541 are 236)
6w
6w
5L last (562)
.
.
.



and so on


This is betting procedure and progression is 1+ 1- on cycle basis, not every won or lost bet


Is this helped mr. TCS?




Cheers


Drazen

Drazen...I kinda kept out of this post for the very reasons Sam mentioned. Its nice to get a round-up.

I tried this method when it first came out but it tanked, so I left it. I never tried this swap version, where you swap to the opposite on a loss.

Maybe I was unlucky in my choice of actuals from Seilbank casino but i played it for 40 or so spins and the BR (100U) range was never outside -93 to +109. stable, I agree, but whats the point.

Thats an hour of taxing brain usage sat in a real casino for (when I quit) +3U

Skakus

This 18 number bet method might be alright, but the basic +1 on win -1 on loss staking plan is not going to help enough to lift it beyond a long term break even (-2.7%) situation.

Get more inventive with the MM and this system might very well lift to a higher level.

For instance, if you're betting 4 units don't go -1 on loss, repeat the 4 unit bet and go -2 after the 2nd loss. Often you will win the second bet for no lost ground.

If you win the second bet for no lost ground then don't go +1 on the win. Repeat the 4 unit bet.

This simple tweak should pay dividends on many complex distributions.

There are lots of tweaks like this to further enhance the +1w -1L method.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

vile

Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 22, 06:40 PM 2012
Perhaps they've played the spins I've provided.  This is the 3rd time I'm asking those who may be playing this accurately to play the spins I've provided and show the results (all 500+ spins, please).


I'd love to say the same as you Mr. Legend.

Have unswered that can't open your spins.
Also,even if I could,wouldn't check unless it's
numbers from actual permanenzes.
Next time send some actuals,preferably one after other,
not from diff.years.Got my point.

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