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*PATTERN 4*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 14, 03:48 PM 2011

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albertojonas

I've been watching this silently.
i will keep posting results from live spins (wiesbaden)

i play continuation.
wait 9 spins after any result then bet

i use 3 banks:
1-3-7
2-5-11
2-5-11

i stay at 2-5-11 till bankroll deplicts or until reaching new high

profit target 47 units (new bank-100% profit)

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test1 +47 units
test2 +25 units




albertojonas

Test3 +31
test4 -40

albertojonas

Watch the graphs after 10500 spins
two forms with reset and with no reset after 1st win
the bet system is pattern Breaker with no reset after 1st win

;D

this is just to point that several different sessions, not played continuously take advantage on continuous play.

other thing to consider is that by playing all 3 even chances at same time will not get us more ahead than playing just one of your choice.

at last I think we must stop thinking like machines, for anything to succeed there must be the power of human decision.

good work, would like to see your thoughts on this

cheers

ophis

just to let u know.

if u will close graph window and all  individual trackers then test will be performed much faster.

well. less visible = faster.

so best is to just minimize it.
Multi Systems Tracker
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albertojonas

Quote from: ophis on May 11, 09:15 PM 2011
Just to let you know.

if you will close graph window and all  individual trackers then test will be performed much faster.

well. less visible = faster.

so best is to just minimize it.
thank you ophis!

Meanwhile one more manual test
test5 +21

Kingspin

The pattern 4 tests look pretty good so far.  :twisted:
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

Smee

Dudes - ive been playing and playing and tweaking and tweaking this and now i need some help.  Im totally convinced this is a winner, just not in its current form.  Maybe I should make a new thread. . . . . i dunno, but i dont wanna hijack this one either.

I played with a 3 column matrix, then 4, then 5 and now i play with 6.  I have found 6 has the best win to lose ratio and the progression is kinda reasonable and affordable with a martingale.  With 6 lines there are 64 pattern combinations so each line has a 1 in 64 chance of losing.  It seems to totally fail 1. 5% of the lines.

Im really keen to go to 7 lines (128 combinations) or even 8 lines (256 combinations!) but need a better progression cause my stomach cant handle betting 128 units to make 1!

Ive been testing online live with real money at various places but mainly betfair and a couple of playtech casinos.  Also Fairway Casino.  I havnt played any RNG - totally rigged.

Ive also played this on dozens / columns with success but the martingale progression is a killer.

From my testing I think, I need a really cheap even betting live roulette table - less than $1 per unit, or a progression that can take us up to 7 or 8 losses without my sphincter twitching!

Im totally convinced if you can afford 7 or 8 losses before a win. . . . . this system is a winner.  Just gotta add a couple more lines. . . . .

       

Johnlegend

Quote from: Smee on May 14, 03:30 AM 2011
Dudes - I've been playing and playing and tweaking and tweaking this and now I need some help.  I'm totally convinced this is a winner, just not in its current form.  Maybe I should make a new thread. . . . . I dunno, but I don't wanna hijack this one either.

I played with a 3 column matrix, then 4, then 5 and now I play with 6.  I have found 6 has the best win to lose ratio and the progression is kinda reasonable and affordable with a martingale.  With 6 lines there are 64 pattern combinations so each line has a 1 in 64 chance of losing.  It seems to totally fail 1. 5% of the lines.

I'm really keen to go to 7 lines (128 combinations) or even 8 lines (256 combinations!) but need a better progression cause my stomach can't handle betting 128 units to make 1!

I've been testing online live with real money at various places but mainly betfair and a couple of playtech casinos.  Also Fairway Casino.  I havnt played any RNG - totally rigged.

I've also played this on dozens / columns with success but the martingale progression is a killer.

From my testing I think, I need a really cheap even betting live roulette table - less than $1 per unit, or a progression that can take us up to 7 or 8 losses without my sphincter twitching!

I'm totally convinced if you can afford 7 or 8 losses before a win. . . . . this system is a winner.  Just gotta add a couple more lines. . . . .

       

Snee I cant agree with that, P4 is DEFINATELY a winner in its current form. You are overthinking this. Its not meant to be invincible. Its a hit and run method and, as such it defies its paper stats. MECHANICAL SYSTEMS do not have to be played MECHANICALY.

You have the REAL POWER in how you employ them. If I want a method with a three figured strikerate I have it in MATRIX VERTICAL 5.

If I want faster turnover I have it with methods like P4, and D&C. The bottom line is the numbers. Do I have to win 7 times to match every loss? On paper YES, in reality NO.

What you have to do with EVERY SYSTEM you encounter is learn its common behaviour. PATTERN 4 holds no surprises, played straight on paper it wins 5-8 times to every loss AS IT SHOULD.

Played HIT AND RUN STYLE, its a different animal. Below are the win loss streaks of my last 200 games to illustrate this fact.

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--9/1

W,W,W,W,W,L--5/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,
W,W,W,W,L--23/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--10/1

W,W,W,W,L--4/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--14/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--10/1

W,W,W,L--3/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--8/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--13/1

W,W,L--2/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--15/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--9/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,L--6/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--16/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L-12/1

W,W,W,W,W,L--5/1

W,W,W,W,L--4/1

W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,L--15/1

GAMES 201
WINS 183
LOSSES 18
PROFIT 65 POINTS To a one level progression.

These are the type of results you will enjoy playing hit and run style with PATTERN 4. You will cheat random and the law of averages overall when you hit a winning streak that goes into double figures. Playing consecutively You will not. Try to understand this, those who do will be on their way to conquering this game for the rest of their lives.

amk

Hello JohnLegend,

Thanks again for all your work and help. Feel really fortunate.

I wanted to see if it might be possible for you to inform us on your precise playing method at the moment. For example your staking plan, the multiple levels etc.. after a loss.

In short any details which are not in your original explanation of Pattern 4.

I have been contemplating many variations of Pattern 4 and other strategies (for a longtime) but it doesn't get any better. Strange feeling to finally be able to let go of it all and just play with no doubt!!

Johnlegend

Quote from: amk on May 14, 12:44 PM 2011
Hello JohnLegend,

Thanks again for all your work and help. Feel really fortunate.

I wanted to see if it might be possible for you to inform us on your precise playing method at the moment. For example your staking plan, the multiple levels etc.. after a loss.

In short any details which are not in your original explanation of Pattern 4.

I have been contemplating many variations of Pattern 4 and other strategies (for a longtime) but it doesn't get any better. Strange feeling to finally be able to let go of it all and just play with no doubt!!
Hit and run is the general playing method Amk. I use three progression levels

(LEVEL 1), 2,4,8

(LEVEL 2), 6,12,24--STARTING LEVEL

(LEVEL 3), 12,24,48

After a win on the first game OF EACH NEW DAY. I drop to level 1 stakes and play 4 more singular games.

After a loss at level 1 I jump to level 3 FOR ONE GAME. If the lost occurred on my FIRST GAME OF THE DAY LEVEL TWO STAKES (RARE) I jump to level 3 for two games.

I have yet to lose a first game at level 2 and have never lost TWICE. And as I said its all relative, once you are locked into a double figures winning streak, you pull ahead and profit overall is assured. Hit and Run assures it.



amk

Thanks JohnLegend!!

Hopefully my last brainstorm....

In a real casino there are many wheels. In theory, Pattern 4 could be played continually without waiting for 20 spins to pass....

After you have 9 spins on one wheel and play Pattern 4 you can walk to the next wheel and play the following 9 spins directly.

After a game walk to the next wheel....

or is this nothing new?


joiner29

if the zero comes up at the third bet is that a loss and move to the next row or do you rebet third spin

Johnlegend

Quote from: amk on May 14, 01:49 PM 2011
Thanks JohnLegend!!

Hopefully my last brainstorm....

In a real casino there are many wheels. In theory, Pattern 4 could be played continually without waiting for 20 spins to pass....

After you have 9 spins on one wheel and play Pattern 4 you can walk to the next wheel and play the following 9 spins directly.

After a game walk to the next wheel....

or is this nothing new?


Yes that would work in a live casino I've done this. But no matter how I play, its for a TOTAL of five wins A DAY. I make ocassional exception to this as I did on holiday with DIVIDE AND CONQUER. But in general I seek five wins per day from each of my bread and butter methods. And as the bankrolls of each grow, so to does the unit value of a point.

The avewrage human being will never be able to adhere to what I do, I realize this. But this level of discipline has brought me great success. And it will others if they can stick to it.

Johnlegend

Quote from: joiner29 on May 14, 02:01 PM 2011
If the zero comes up at the third bet is that a loss and move to the next row or do you rebet third spin
The game is lost, this is tbe power of Pattern 4 played hit and run style. 4 of my 18 losses in the previous results contained a green goblin. It makes for a minor setback, understand this. Once you are locked into a dounle figures winning streak you have overcome what all the maths boys dictate your expected numbers should be. This is the reward for your patience and persistence. WHEN YOU ENTER THE CYCLE, is the single most important factor. Playing hit and run, you will often cheat all the laws and gain a bigger slice of the winning pie, its that simple.

Gordonline


Hi John

Patience is key with this hit & run method and tonight played 5 games "Live Wheel" exactly as you suggested (Ophis Tracker PB4 H/L only) with a first win on L2 and then 4 games at L1, and only twice had to go to the 2nd progression +14 units and stopped job done  ;D

Gordon  :thumbsup:
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