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The power of RTM

Started by denzie, Apr 25, 02:03 AM 2016

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denzie

Did someone test the power of RTM ? Or does it takes to long ? Or it doesn't work?

What do the math boys think about this ? Does the wheel balance most times ? Or always if you got the time?  - HE

Happy to hear your thoughts  :)
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

The spins in RX are rng right ?
Are they really random or fixed to level around 1000 spins ?

Can't seem to lose even one session using RTM  :o
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Drazen

If you are in doubt you can load spins from live wheel or random.org

Turner

Quote from: denzie on Apr 25, 05:26 AM 2016
The spins in RX are rng right ?
Yes, but you can download real spins from 4 or 5 german casinos

Quote from: denzie on Apr 25, 05:26 AM 2016

Are they really random or fixed to level around 1000 spins ?

its just a random number. One after the other I dont know what "fixed to a level" means

Quote from: denzie on Apr 25, 05:26 AM 2016

Can't seem to lose even one session using RTM  :o

RTM means RegressionToward the Mean to me

are you talking about something else?

nottophammer

Whats the point of a zillion numbers in a single stream, you'll never play like the answer you get.
Denz using RNG might use a couple of thousand spins,thats if hes lucky enough. Surely you need to test in random segments of around 400/500 spins like a live wheel would give for say 8 hrs,say a spin every minute.
Then you could use the result on fast RNG.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Turner

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 25, 05:55 AM 2016
Whats the point of a zillion numbers in a single stream, you'll never play like the answer you get.
Denz using RNG might use a couple of thousand spins,thats if hes lucky enough. Surely you need to test in random segments of around 400/500 spins like a live wheel would give for say 8 hrs,say a spin every minute.
Then you could use the result on fast RNG.

I dont think you get what a random number is

nottophammer

Iwill in a minute when you tell me
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Turner

its independent of any other number. It doesnt relate to any other number generated in the same range

You can get a number from Jackpot Joy, then get one from random.org, then one from a will hill live dealer, then one from a table at las vegas

You have 4 random numbers. You think they are not related because they are from 4 different wheels or RNGs but they are 4 random numbers. No different from any 4 random numbers.

you can put them in any order. Doesnt have to be in order of the time you got them.

testing in random segments of 400 doesnt mean anything.

The numbers dont know you have made them into a 400 number group




nottophammer

Just explained in RNG i dont worry about random, you can say 1 from here and 1 from there, but i dont play a number from there and a number from there. I use the stream from playtech or inspired gaming they just stream a line of yes random numbers to you but to me they are just a stream of numbers that math is not going to work with.

Save your fingers i dont need the math

Thanks Turner. i must put me stevie wonders on
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Turner

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 25, 06:20 AM 2016
Just explained in RNG i dont worry about random, you can say 1 from here and 1 from there, but i dont play a number from there and a number from there. I use the stream from playtech or inspired gaming they just stream a line of yes random numbers to you but to me they are just a stream of numbers that math is not going to work with.

Save your fingers i dont need the math

Thanks Turner. i must put me stevie wonders on

I dont get c***ney rhyming slang...sorry

and...I didnt mention Maths. Just what a random number is, and what it isnt



nottophammer

Stevie wonders dark glasses so i cant see the replies.
Anyway tell me when the random is going to stop this, 122 games today lost one, maybe tomorrow, not promoting KTF as Mr J would have everyone believe, just showed how you could play a simple way.
Wont belong before  his alarm clock goes off and then the boredom will start all his old shite will start, i'm off thanks for the conversation.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Turner

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 25, 06:34 AM 2016
Stevie wonders dark glasses so i cant see the replies.
Anyway tell me when the random is going to stop this, 122 games today lost one, maybe tomorrow, not promoting KTF as Mr J would have everyone believe, just showed how you could play a simple way.
Wont belong before  his alarm clock goes off and then the boredom will start all his old shite will start, i'm off thanks for the conversation.

Just cos the dark  glasses stop you seeing the truth doesnt mean the truth goes away

I was just saying what a random number was. Random isnt a noun. It wont be doing anything to stop anything. Its an adjective.

John Legend was always saying "give random something to think about".... "give random a task it cant cope with"

He didnt get it either

tuddilue

Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 06:44 AM 2016
Just cos the dark  glasses stop you seeing the truth doesnt mean the truth goes away

I was just saying what a random number was. Random isnt a noun. It wont be doing anything to stop anything. Its an adjective.

John Legend was always saying "give random something to think about".... "give random a task it cant cope with"

He didnt get it either
But how should you describe random number?  From your point of view? Or maybe that is not so simple?

goldrosen

Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 06:14 AM 2016
its independent of any other number. It doesnt relate to any other number generated in the same range

You can get a number from Jackpot Joy, then get one from random.org, then one from a will hill live dealer, then one from a table at las vegas

You have 4 random numbers. You think they are not related because they are from 4 different wheels or RNGs but they are 4 random numbers. No different from any 4 random numbers.

you can put them in any order. Doesnt have to be in order of the time you got them.

testing in random segments of 400 doesnt mean anything.

The numbers dont know you have made them into a 400 number group

Hi Tuner,

What you said all make sense to me but theres one thing I don't get it, if we get 4 numbers from different places for millions time, will all the numbers balance out in the long run? Or the color represented the number, example 1(RED) , 2(BLACK) etc..Like what happened for most roulette results/ sessions, even chance will "try" to balance out.. if yes, then why? TQ.

denzie

Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 05:40 AM 2016
Yes, but you can download real spins from 4 or 5 german casinos
Thx for this. Drazen also

its just a random number. One after the other I dont know what "fixed to a level" means
I just noticed that it really behaves like the statistics of a real wheel. That's why I wondered if they fixed something to get close to those statistics. For example 400 red and 300 black in 700 spins...ooo we need to wake up black

RTM means RegressionToward the Mean to me

are you talking about something else? Nope. ...
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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