1-4 numbers with MM.

[nottophammer]

@notto. ... how would you play this? As we go for a third hit....start after spin 20?  Cuz 3 hits in our first 20 spins aren't that common.

Yes after spin 20 seems to show 2's become 3's. These GUT sheets are pretty much the same.

Gut 8 shows the 4 open but dont close, but the 2's become 3, spin 29,which opened a couple of spins earlier.

A few from the archive, as said, in Azims Holy grail in testing zone, theres more sheets you can see after 20th.

Again theres a decision do you take the early win

[mogul397]

Yes after spin 20 seems to show 2's become 3's. These GUT sheets are pretty much the same.

Gut 8 shows the 4 open but dont close, but the 2's become 3, spin 29,which opened a couple of spins earlier.

A few from the archive, as said, in Azims Holy grail in testing zone, theres more sheets you can see after 20th.

Again theres a decision do you take the early win

Not sure what the point is. And as usual, I can't follow whatever you're doing in those graphs.

Did some more testing. Pg 248 of zumma.  Yeah celescliff. I know you don't have one.
Maybe you should get one.  Helps run quick tests that you can accumulate.

Got confusing. Was starting a split on wins and losses.

loss +35 +34 loss loss loss  +29 +30.  Page 248. I'll leave it to you.

Pg 253 started loss loss +28 +10.

So I'm seeing a lot of spilits in the results. Not the total windfall. And as I say,
it usually only takes a couple rounds of zumma to keep you honest. That's beem
my experience and result here.  And my reputation.

Just trying to keep people from getting to excited or wasting their time.

[celescliff]

Not sure what the point is. And as usual, I can't follow whatever you're doing in those graphs.

Did some more testing. Pg 248 of zumma.  Yeah celescliff. I know you don't have one.
Maybe you should get one.  Helps run quick tests that you can accumulate.

Got confusing. Was starting a split on wins and losses.

loss +35 +34 loss loss loss  +29 +30.  Page 248. I'll leave it to you.

Pg 253 started loss loss +28 +10.

So I'm seeing a lot of spilits in the results. Not the total windfall. And as I say,
it usually only takes a couple rounds of zumma to keep you honest. That's beem
my experience and result here.  And my reputation.

Just trying to keep people from getting to excited or wasting their time.

That's because even an easy method like this is to advanced for you. And if you read the posts, the point in this is not the bet selection.

I now have my first name on my ignore list. Could you guess which one?

[celescliff]

Ok, three more for today. +34 in 42 spins, +8 in 36 spins and +44 in 31 spins.

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# T Info Bet Info
13
6
10
23
8
25
33
22
15
18
4
35
10 * BR1 open: 50u #10
25 * BR2 open: 50u #25
2
12
18 * BR3 open: 50u #18
5
2
11
27
17
23 * BR4 open: 23u #23
0
26
23 w BR4 close: 83u
0
22
5
12
18 w BR3 close: 72u +20
31
14
24
30
12
16
13
9
11
20
10 w BR1 close: 57u BR2 close: 22u
-----------------------------
BR1: 57
BR2: 22
BR3: 72
BR4: 83
Total: 234
Net: +34
42 spins


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# T Info Bet Info Info
18
25
20
24
12
33
35
22
19
36
31
22 * BR1 open: 50u #22
32
16
19 * BR2 open: 50u #19
13
21
4
34
34 * BR3 open: 50u #34
26
32 * BR4 open: 50u #32
36
6
32 w BR4 close: 83u
30
17
27
31
28
3
12
28
28
28
34 w BR3 close: 70u BR1 close: 26u BR2 close: 29u
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BR1: 26
BR2: 29
BR3: 70
BR4: 83
Total: 208
Net: +8
36 spins


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# T Info Bet Info
15
10
1
36
16
22
10 * BR1 open: 50u #10
13
8
1 * BR2 open: 50u #1
15 * BR3 open: 50u #15
9
7
36 * BR4 open: 50u #36
1 w BR2 close: 81u
3
27
0
13
17
14
3
29
33
23
27
25
13
36 w BR4 close: 71u
23
15 w BR3 close: 66u Close BR1: 26u
-----------------------------
BR1: 26
BR2: 81
BR3: 66
BR4: 71
Total: 244
Net: +44
31 spins


Session01: 224u (+24)
Session02: 275u (+75)
Session03: 227u (+27)
Session04: 298u (+98)
Session05: 289u (+89)
Session06: 251u (+51)
Session07: 295u (+95)
Session08: 236u (+36)
Session09: 148u (-52)
Session10: 231u (+31)
Session11: 267u (+67)
Session12: 247u (+47)
Session13: 236u (+36)
Session14: 183u (-17)
Session15: 261u (+61)
Session16: 234u (+34)
Session17: 208u (+8)
Session18: 244u (+44)
---------------
Profit: +754 units

[Tomla021]

celes your averaging what I am ----average win plus 40 with losses included in that

[mogul397]

That's because even an easy method like this is to advanced for you. And if you read the posts, the point in this is not the bet selection.

I now have my first name on my ignore list. Could you guess which one?

Even though I'm being ignored, I'd beg to differ with you.  Bet selection is still
ALL the method. IF you don't get any hits, your banks lose.

I have no problem finding losing sessions. I guess someone as advanced as you doesn't have
the test book that everyone else has, showing your depth of experience.

I'll just sit on the side lines and watch this one fade into the darkness.

OH. When that happens, would one of you be so kind to tell celest "I told you so"?

[ignatus]

Even though I'm being ignored, I'd beg to differ with you.  Bet selection is still
ALL the method. IF you don't get any hits, your banks lose.

I have no problem finding losing sessions. I guess someone as advanced as you doesn't have
the test book that everyone else has, showing your depth of experience.

I'll just sit on the side lines and watch this one fade into the darkness.

OH. When that happens, would one of you be so kind to tell celest "I told you so"?

I never had luck with hotnumbers,...don't want to ruin this thread,..but a small wingoal and proper moneymanagement it may work yes,..

I don't know why the "roulette experts" are so horny about hotnumbers, it still puzzles me, what is the magic trick?? i haven't found yet, and i believe i tried every possible combination with hotnumbers (including this one)...

[denzie]

@Ignatus. .... you tried and understand GUT?
Did you read the KTF thread?
Did you check Notto his average doc ?

With that info you can bet 4 numbers. (Or more) 

[ignatus]

@Ignatus. .... you tried and understand GUT?
Did you read the KTF thread?
Did you check Notto his average doc ?

With that info you can bet 4 numbers. (Or more) 

KTF, was published just after my idea "The Robber", link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16466.msg145508#msg145508 but it's ok to steal ideas and tweak systems...

[nottophammer]

KTF, was published just after my idea "The Robber", link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16466.msg145508#msg145508 but it's ok to steal ideas and tweak systems...No steal idea, been working on KTF for years, even mentioned it on the VLS site

[ignatus]

ok, if you say so..

[nottophammer]

My reply to Darrynf

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Re: Is there any one who is earning a real living from roulette?
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2013, 08:28:33 PM »
Quote from: darrynf on January 18, 2011, 06:41:01 PM

    thats true but I dont need feed back or pointers cause I know what my system is capeable and I havent seen anyone else use the same idea as I have, sompeople use the concept of waiting ofr repeaters but my idea takes it to a new level.
    its very difficult to explain how it works, and there will be people who wont understand it and use it wrong and then tell me it dosent work.

    which I know for a fact it dose, I have no need for anyones opoin about my system and I dont want it tarnish, its difficult cause you have to chose when to bet and keep track of all numbers.

    I use tools to help me do that, newbie woulnt understand as it has so many advantages when the numbers are right.

    let me ask you this, what is more likely to come up after 30 spins, repeating numbers or a new number?
    how do we use this to our advantage, even though my method dosent perdict which will happen, but my pattern tells me when or more likely which one will happen and thats how it works and still havent lost a session.

Hello DF
after 30 spins both, new numbers and repeats of those numbers.
only play rgn and record these games and over 800 games recorded. the avg is 15.84932 new numbers in 30 spins,i know shouldn't but drop the .84932, leaves a nice 15,half the 30 spins new numbers the other 15 repeats.
like you say dont believe me, try for your self, have 10 spins if no repeat add 15 to the 10 numbers gone and after the next 30 spins you will either hit 25 numbers on the mat/field, or be close, very close. if you look on general board you'll see some rgn games i played at ladbrokes stevenage and another in turners biggleswade, there both side by side.

But like you say is anyone making money, well i do and believe you could be, my old dad said people say you cant win because they cant, bloody cheek

[NextYear]

Yes:
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=17507.msg151136#msg151136

[celescliff]

Alright, this is my sessions so far. Even if it looses sometimes, the wins, so far, adds up.

Session01: 224u (+24)
Session02: 275u (+75)
Session03: 227u (+27)
Session04: 298u (+98)
Session05: 289u (+89)
Session06: 251u (+51)
Session07: 295u (+95)
Session08: 236u (+36)
Session09: 148u (-52)
Session10: 231u (+31)
Session11: 267u (+67)
Session12: 247u (+47)
Session13: 236u (+36)
Session14: 183u (-17)
Session15: 261u (+61)
Session16: 234u (+34)
Session17: 208u (+8)
Session18: 244u (+44)
Session19: 203u (+3)
Session20: 165u (-35)
Session21: 218u (+18)
Session22: 264u (+64)
Session23: 236u (+36)
Session24: 212u (+12)
Session25: 240u (+40)
Session26: 236u (+36)
---------------
Profit: +928 units

[thelaw]

Alright, this is my sessions so far. Even if it looses sometimes, the wins, so far, adds up.

Session01: 224u (+24)
Session02: 275u (+75)
Session03: 227u (+27)
Session04: 298u (+98)
Session05: 289u (+89)
Session06: 251u (+51)
Session07: 295u (+95)
Session08: 236u (+36)
Session09: 148u (-52)
Session10: 231u (+31)
Session11: 267u (+67)
Session12: 247u (+47)
Session13: 236u (+36)
Session14: 183u (-17)
Session15: 261u (+61)
Session16: 234u (+34)
Session17: 208u (+8)
Session18: 244u (+44)
Session19: 203u (+3)
Session20: 165u (-35)
Session21: 218u (+18)
Session22: 264u (+64)
Session23: 236u (+36)
Session24: 212u (+12)
Session25: 240u (+40)
Session26: 236u (+36)
---------------
Profit: +928 units

This is how winning methods are built!!!

Keep up the great work!!!