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I am testing lots of spins just to see what CAN happen, when in REALITY I would only play it for several minutes

Method I am testing?

Bet all lines EXCEPT the line that hit 5 spins ago....stupid idea? of course...but lets see how it went

again, this would be a few spin deal, not sitting there for an hour begging for the house to take me

50 spins (not 50 results because I start after 5 results)

flat bet

W (on zero, insurance chip on zero)
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38 wins (including zero-have not decided chip size for that yet, but it isn't a loss, zero would be minimum +1)
5 losses


+38
-25

Total: +13

50 spin test, test 2...keep in mind obviously no bet when 5 spins back was 0

this was a nice run...even though it was only +4 units it likely would have been MUCH more because 4 of the wins were on ZERO

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34 WINS   (4 ON ZERO)
6 LOSSES

+34 units (havent decided on zero yet)
-30 units

+4 units

Nice RG, you're doing a lot of brainstorming and experimenting lately, thanks for the effort.

Test 3 of flat betting all lines except the line hit 5 spins ago

another 50 live wheel spins

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W (0)
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W (0)
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38 WINS
2 LOSSES

5 of those wins were on the insurance of 0/00.....not sure on unit spread yet....so FOR NOW will count those as +1 however it would be more

+38
-10

+28 units

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+45 units in 150 live wheel spins

FLAT BET 5 LINES ONLY NO PROGRESSION





I will name it the flapjack method without syrup

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36 WINS
9 LOSSES

-9 UNITS

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TOTAL +36 UNITS

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W (0)
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36 WINS
8 LOSSES

-4 UNITS

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TOTAL

+32 UNITS

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W (0)
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15 WINS
4 LOSSES

-5 UNITS

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TOTAL
+27 UNITS

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40 WINS
5 LOSSES

+15 UNITS

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TOTAL

+42 UNITS

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35 WINS
4 LOSSES

+15 UNITS

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TOTAL

+57 UNITS

How many units on zero, vs DS?

tonights testing done

tested roughly 350 live wheel spins

+57 units


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Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 08, 11:19 PM 2018
How many units on zero, vs DS?

have not figured that out yet

any ideas? enough to make some profit thats about it

I dunno...
1/10th?

My airball machines are $15 minimum

Lowest chip denomination is $1

I’d likely use $10 units

So $10 per line. Then $4 split between 0/00

So a line Win is +$10 (+1 unit)
And a 0/00 Win is +$ 70 (+7 unit)

So deduct the wager in 0/00 when you win the line bets, and you profit $6 per line win

On 0/00 Win your profit after removing the line wagers is $20

Sorry if it’s jumbled I’m at work

But to summarize the ratio would be $4 split between 0/00 and $10 on each line

On euro $2 on 0 and $10 per line

One for you RG, but I decided to hang my ass out in the wind and not cover the 0/00 split at all.  Played with 1u bets:

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41 wins   
7 losses    
   
Total: +6   

Thanks for testing

Always use money you can be without as losing sessions do happen

I had 4 winning sessions and 3 losing ones

The losing ones were not much though, still +57 :)

I had an extreme amount of 0s for some reason so not covering it would have been bad

Another, 0/00 uncovered again. 

I bet it would do well with +1/-1 bet selection thanks to the W streaks it sees:

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39 wins   
8 losses   
   
Total: -1   

You could be right

The 3 losing sessions I had were only a few units

No big deal

So far I’m liking it.

We shall see.

Flat bet only for now

But maybe leveler as well. On a loss go up a unit and stay there until recover.

(Cover that zero)

I’m just not about complicated methods

I like nice and easy and “stupid”

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 09, 03:11 PM 2018
I’m just not about complicated methods

I like nice and easy and “stupid”

I like it, we just need to dial in the bet selection. Like Iggy's Fun Factory it's a nice distraction from trying to piece together grail hints from old threads all day  :wink:

I’ve tested static 5 lines

Betting the same 5 lines over and over is not nearly as good as this

Some thing about the “matrix” style

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 09, 03:31 PM 2018
I’ve tested static 5 lines

Betting the same 5 lines over and over is not nearly as good as this

Some thing about the “matrix” style

You're right, it has a bit of the anti-pattern philosophies in it, which is definitely better than static. 

quick 50 spin live wheel test (celtic casino 00)

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37 WINS
6 LOSSES

+7 UNITS (counting win on 0 as 1 unit but it would be more)
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Total since testing began

+64 units flat betting 5 lines against the decision 5 back (matrix flapjack style)


every test has a minimum win streak of 9 in a row...how can this be used? positive progression on a win until goal reached?

if you bet 6 numbers randomly you will need a progression in the long run...we are using the casino tactic against them....THEY are the ones betting the 6 numbers, we use that to our advantage

unfair payout still? sure

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not good at math

need to make the 0/00 bet a lower denomination for sure

or like you are doing mako, no 0 bet at all

yea i think i have the math wrong

not as good as it looks with the chips on zero

need a better plan for this method

I agree.  No bet on zero.  Just hope it's not raining 0s.  Easier to play I guess.

Forget the 0

I do NOT suggest a negative progression for this

That being said

On my tests it looks like doing a 1 3 9
Progression makes it all a winner

When I say that I mean:

Bet one unit

On a loss increase to 3 units and stay there for two wins then back to 1 unit. If you lose any of the 2 tries at 3 units increase to 9 units for two wins. Then Back to 1 unit

If you do this use very small unit size :)

Lose: 3 units for two tries
Lose again: 9 units two tries

RG,  try this short term *parachutes *

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cheers

not something id recommend

but I ran through 250 live spins

betting against the line 10 back never busted with a 3 step progression

its very very stupid t do that with 30 numbers

but I am trying to think how money management can make betting a lot of numbers work