CHALLENGE FOR ALL--must see and participate if you wana be winner-Yes SAM,it can

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

I'd like you ask you a question.  If I can't get this down right, there is no need to continue with your system, 9 v 9.

I am betting on the nine furthest.  I get a hit on the 4 split.  Does the 4 split, by virtue of being hit, now become one of the last?

Sam

[PGA]

TCS,

The way I have understood the 9v9, is as follows:

- Furthest Group; 9 furthest splits
- Nearest Group; 9 nearest splits

If let`s say spilt 8 which is part of the Furthest Group appears, then split 8 becomes a member of the Nearest Group and the oldest split of the Nearest Group will become a member of the Furthest Group.  Your next bet will be on the Furthest Group and continue to bet the Furthest Group until a split from the Nearest Group appears.  When that happens, you have lost the bet and for the next bet you switch to bet all the splits in the Nearest Group. 

I am sure Flat will confirm one way or the other.

Gerry

[FlAtMaN]

FlAtMaN

I'd like you ask you a question.  If I can't get this down right, there is no need to continue with your system, 9 v 9.

I am betting on the nine furthest.  I get a hit on the 4 split.  Does the 4 split, by virtue of being hit, now become one of the last?

Sam

Sam,
Couse dont exactly grasp your question...while beting on furthest 9 those coming hit splits must be different from previously above 9 splits...... while betting last 9 only wins those splits that are shown in your tracker-

it's FTL/follow the last 9,follow the furthest 9....on rides you always win,while on chops you always lose...sorry you can't get it....maybe somebody that does will explain it better them me...though I will continue with LvF untill the end of this month and ppl.will be surprised with about 55
wiesbaden sessions over 300 spins betting in cycle of 9 spins


example again,

last 9
5
9
14
8
2
16
13
10
6
--------if any of above nine numbers win you won and continue with same bet
          if any other split wins that is not above/example 4/you write 4which becomes last 9 underline
         
4--erase last number/5 which goes to further 9/and start betting on further 9 split

[Turner]

Sam,
Couse don't exactly grasp your question...while beting on furthest 9 those coming hit splits must be different from previously above 9 splits...... while betting last 9 only wins those splits that are shown in your tracker-

it's FTL/follow the last 9,follow the furthest 9....on rides you always win,while on chops you always lose...sorry you can't get it....maybe somebody that does will explain it better them me...though I will continue with LvF until the end of this month and people.will be surprised with about 55
wiesbaden sessions over 300 spins betting in cycle of 9 spins


example again,

last 9
5
9
14
8
2
16
13
10
6
--------if any of above nine numbers win you won and continue with same bet
          if any other split wins that is not above/example 4/you write 4which becomes last 9 underline
         
4--erase last number/5 which goes to further 9/and start betting on further 9 split

Thats better.....the Flatmans back

[TwoCatSam]

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[FlAtMaN]

Sir, you answered a question I did not ask.  And, yes, I would be happy for anyone to explain it to me.

Here are the splits:

Last         Furthest               
1                   11
2                   12
3                   13
5                   14
6                   15
7                   16
8                   17
9                   18
10                 4---prior to that bet you play last 9,come 10 play furthest,next spin comes 4 play last 9

Here is what I'm asking:  I bet the furthest and the 4 split hits.  What happens to it?

Sam

I did unswer that question Sam ---in presented case 4 goes to last 9 and 1 goes to furthest 9,so next bet is last 9. My last excel to you it is really self explanatory in which I have described after each spin what to erase what to bet.

[trebor]

So win or lose on the furthest nine you change to last nine?


Trebor

[FlAtMaN]

So win or lose on the furthest nine you change to last nine?


Trebor

No Trebor.YOU STAY ON FURTHEST 9 AS LONG AS THOSE ARE HITTING...I had a case of 14 wins in the
row as furthest 9....they are rotating,example


4,erased..now furthest
7.erased..now furthest
12erased..now furthest
3 erased..now furthest
11erased..now furthest
15 erased..now furthest
9  erased..now furthest
17
10 last 9---start betting on it
6..L....start betting on furthest 9........WATCH CLOSELY WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
16-W-erase above 4 which goes to furthest 9
18-W-erase above 7
4--W-erase above 12
8--W-erase above 3
5--W-erase above 11
1--W-erase above 15
2-W--erase above 9
7-W--erase above 7......which was last 9 few spins back....and so for........until hits one of above 9 spins.8 for example.....so now you start betting last 9....which are;8,7,2,1,5,8,4,18,16,

[TwoCatSam]

OK, let's go at it another way?

Last         Furthest               
1                   11
2                   12
3                   13
5                   14
6                   15
7                   16
8                   17
9                   18
10                 4<-----------I just won on this furthest split.  Now I see it looking like this:


Last         Furthest
             
2                  11
3                  12
5                  13
6                  14
7                  15
8                  16
9                  17
10                18
4                   1

This is how I played it.  If the 4 split hit again, I would not be on it.  The 4 had moved to the newest by virtue of being hit.  The 1 was moved out of the last nine and went to the furthest nine.

This is what I mean by saying the repeating splits had killed me.

Sam

[FlAtMaN]

OK, let's go at it another way?

Last         Furthest               
1                   11
2                   12
3                   13
5                   14
6                   15
7                   16
8                   17
9                   18
10                 4<-----------I just won on this furthest split.  Now I see it looking like this:


Last         Furthest
             
2                  11
3                  12
5                  13
6                  14
7                  15
8                  16
9                  17
10                18
4                   1

This is how I played it.  If the 4 split hit again, I would not be on it.  The 4 had moved to the newest by virtue of being hit.  The 1 was moved out of the last nine and went to the furthest nine.

This is what I mean by saying the repeating splits had killed me.

Sam

Now I get what you mean,which is also evident from my excel,but it doesn't hurt much when you
playing it in cycle of 9 spins/same due amount per cycle/as you could see your losing session with my way of playing make into winning session.The main and only advantage in this bet is evenly balanced L/W score at the end of any over 300 spin session...and the my win requirament is 54 chips,which 80%of 29 tested Wiesbaden sessions won in the first half of the session/mostly earlier,
only 2 sessions went to the end....which means if you win your 54 call it a day......if you don't win it by half of the session must continue playing as it inevitably comes back and levels up...we are not
chasing for missing 30 blacks...this is quite different which wheel does regulary.Here we are relaying on repeaters either last or furthest 9.Every chop is a los.

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

Sorry to be such a bore.  Let's go at it another way:

Last         Furthest               
1                   11
2                   12
3                   13
5                   14
6                   15
7                   16
8                   17
9                   18
10                 4<-----------YOU are playing the furthest.  You just won on the 4 split.  Would you please list the nine splits you would bet on next?

Sam

[FlAtMaN]

FlAtMaN

Sorry to be such a bore.  Let's go at it another way:

Last         Furthest               
1                   11
2                   12
3                   13
5                   14
6                   15
7                   16
8                   17
9                   18
10                 4<-----------YOU are playing the furthest.  You just won on the 4 split.  Would you please list the nine splits you would bet on next?4,10,9,8,7,6,5,3,2...but the fact is  that 4 couldn't be possibly furthest at very start...........only thisway could only be possible.....you firstly started with last 9....comes 10 lost, 1 goes to furthests 10 remains in lasts.....now you are due playing furthests...........and you couldn't possibly have 4 as a winner as it remained in last nines,and furthest would be then--1,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18

Sam

[FlAtMaN]

Sam mate........you MUST ALWAYS CONTROL YOUR LIST OF LAST 9 SPINS IN YOUR SPREADSHEET.

WHEN YOU GET A SPLIT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIST OF LAST 9 YOU WON AND CONTINUE SAME BET.
WHEN YOU GET A SPLIT THAT YOU HAVEN'T IN YOUR LIST OF LAST 9,--THEN YOU LOST AND CONTINUE ON FURTHERS.......EXCLUDING THE LAST HIT SPLIT AND INCLUDE FURTHER SPLIT WHICH GOES TO FURTHER 9...VERY SIMPLE.

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

I realize I used a situation that could not occur.  I re-wrote my post using real numbers and then I saw you had quoted me and I deleted it.  You can look back and see it's gone.  Reply #289.

This was only an example.  Sorry I used a poor one.

If I didn't have faith in you and what you're doing, I wouldn't spend five minutes on it. 

I'll get back to you with a true scenario.

Thanks for your patience.

Sam

[kingsroulette]

OK. Flatman=f_lat i_no,
          You wrote:

You can see here clearly/in Sam losing session with addition of Bobs doz/col/how I play it
in cycle of 9 spins......end of the month you shall see all wiesbaden session of this month and
see the results.

First u did it all with increase/decrease with every bet, then in a cycle of 5 and now in a cycle of 9. Mind telling me clearly(if u know it yourself) whether you are winning in all those test samples of 10 sessions with cycle of 5 and 9 too and whether you are going to try cycles of 11 and 13 as well?