"A repeat will mostly be from the last 18 uniques"
For the past few weeks I've been thinking to myself what the hell does "last 18 uniques" mean!?
If we look back to past numbers:
1) 21 11 8 35 11 21
2) 21 8 35 11 11 21
3) 21 11 11 8 35 21
21 is the latest number to appear (on the right), so how many "uniques" have we got for each of the 3 examples?
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Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 20, 08:19 AM 201721 is the latest number to appear (on the right), so how many "uniques" have we got for each of the 3 examples?
4
3Nine, I see the "outside the box" topic is about creating a parallel stream based on "positions", but I don't see anything there about "uniques"; that's not to say that strategy doesn't incorporate repeats based on uniques.
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So 4 uniques would be for all 3 examples?
How about counting back to the last time there was a zero gap, ie. 2 numbers in a row?
2) 21 8 35 11 11 21
Here it's "1" number since last time 2 numbers appeared in a row (11 11)
3) 21 11 11 8 35 21
Here it's "3" numbers since last time 2 numbers appeared in a row (11 11)
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 20, 08:34 AM 20173Nine, I see the "outside the box" topic is about creating a parallel stream based on "positions", but I don't see anything there about "uniques"; that's not to say that strategy doesn't incorporate repeats based on uniques.
Read it again.
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I wonder what the results would be if:
We wrote down all 37 or 38 numbers. Put an x next to each one that hits. We wait for a total of 18 to have only 1 X then bet all 18
Quote from: 3Nine on Feb 20, 08:35 AM 2017
Read it again.
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Oh I see: the parallel stream is the stream of uniques values itself!
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 20, 08:19 AM 2017
1) 21 11 8 35 11 21
2) 21 8 35 11 11 21
3) 21 11 11 8 35 21
1)
21 we have 1 unique
11 we have 2 uniques
8 we have 3 uniques
35 we have 4 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
2)
21 we have 1 unique
8 we have 2 uniques
35 we have 3 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
3)
21 we have 1 unique
11 we have 2 uniques
11 we have 2 uniques
8 we have 3 uniques
35 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 20, 09:02 AM 2017
I wonder what the results would be if:
We wrote down all 37 or 38 numbers. Put an x next to each one that hits. We wait for a total of 18 to have only 1 X then bet all 18
I tested something similar many years ago. It doesn't matter what repeat level a number is at - this will not increase it's chance of appearing/repeating again.
Quote from: praline on Feb 20, 09:07 AM 2017
2)
21 we have 1 unique
8 we have 2 uniques
35 we have 3 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
Huh!? 11 is also 4 uniques? Now I'm totally confused... :question:
Quote from: praline on Feb 20, 09:07 AM 2017
1)
21 we have 1 unique
11 we have 2 uniques
8 we have 3 uniques
35 we have 4 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
2)
21 we have 1 unique
8 we have 2 uniques
35 we have 3 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
11 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
3)
21 we have 1 unique
11 we have 2 uniques
11 we have 2 uniques
8 we have 3 uniques
35 we have 4 uniques
21 we have 4 uniques
I understand that now - that really is literally "how many uniques" - but I never envisaged counting like that. So there's several ways of looking back at past numbers it seems.
OK, so.... "last uniques" means those numbers that have appeared once or more since we began recording a session - or based on how far back in the past we choose to look from the present spin? And after 500 spins maximum, roughly speaking, we would have eventually all 37 uniques?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 20, 10:53 AM 2017. "last uniques" means those numbers that have appeared once or more since we began recording a session - or based on how far back in the past we choose to look from the present spin? And after 500 spins maximum, roughly speaking, we would have eventually all 37 uniques?
Yes but depends on view.
And yes.
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Is it not after 7 posible uniques you'd get a repeat? So here if you'd bet the uniques as they come you'd have got the repeat.
Well these are spins from, huh, multi player roulette :question:
Yeah, 7 spins is MLE for first repeat, but all bets are designed to break even unless the required concepts are in place.
I'm running a test now on uniques from 1 to 37 based on a "view" I've created.
Now its known that spin 13 shows 2#'s could have repeated, but this is a game of chance and what's to say the next 10 spins arn't all non-hit's?
So does average become part of this game? Do you know, say what the 1st 19 non-hit average to hit, could they average to hit in 3 spins, or what there maximum spins could take?
Averages/stats do come into it - but they are secondary to Non-Random and other concepts/principles needed to beat the game.
I'm only using the GUT sheet as its nice to see the trot.
What concepts/principles are going to get that win.
A hottie has produced, but will it carry on. Trot to me is fast being +2 on 15 non-hit in spins 11-30
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There's no limit to when the non-hits are gong to strike... they could strike at any time. So you need to use Non-random concepts to constrain the animal inside the cage so that the event comes within a fixed limit that you have more predictability over (see Random Thoughts topic for more info).