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How many 300 trails sessions can you win flat betting each trail even money bets

Started by ego, Mar 15, 06:26 AM 2012

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ego


This is the experiment - i find the core or the pure sequence witch has no existing imbalance using various of dimensions observing the distribution.
I wondering how many 300 trails sessions i can play each trail flat betting with out once being up at least plus 1 unit - that is the experiment.

RNG session 1.



Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

vile

Method???
None.Advantage of En Prison rules,experience,patience,
wheel acquaintance and know how.

ego


1.35% is not much being house edge - i recon it one of the lowest you can find.

Now i am close to hit 100 units with 1000 placed bets  :twisted: that is around a 2.5 STD pretty good ...
I cant remember any one succed doing just that in public ...


RNG Session 2




Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


Explanation - there is no triggers or past previous results using this method.
I just start with black and see what coming up next and catch every existing tendency towards imbalance - to do that you have to know how randomness flow or unfold.
I see it like this that my ant is stronger the randomness ant.

Sure there will be some kind of fluctuation witch will create a losing wave - utopia to say anything else.
But this topic is interesting because if you can pick any table and start at any point with 20 units and win 10 sessions over and over again with humble win target.
Then there is many various MM and capitalizing strategy witch can make it a real consistent winner or at least improve the overall strategy.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

warrior

Quote from: vile on Mar 15, 06:11 PM 2012
Method???
None.Advantage of En Prison rules,experience,patience,
wheel acquaintance and know how.
doesn't tell me much, i know guys like you i have seen them all over the forums.SECRET HA :twisted:

ego

Quote from: warrior on Mar 15, 11:18 PM 2012
doesn't tell me much, i know guys like you i have seen them all over the forums.SECRET HA :twisted:

Me to - i see this guys all over forums.
During many years at gambling forums i been so tired of all does claims that you can outguess 50/50 and win flat betting - witch should be impossible - my opinion.

But then i one day find a new angel to approach the game 50/50 witch made me exited - witch has nothing to do with outguess 50/50 - but i notice one thing X wrote witch was similar towards what i experimented with and found out that not all but many points was actually accurate.

Then by accident i skip all previous result, triggers and patterns - just made one random walk out of all my knowledge i have regarding randomness and that is the result you see above.
If it continues being positive - witch would mean that i would win at least plus 1 or have peaks at 40 to 45 units flat betting with 300 placed bets - i will then for sure give it to my friend Bayes to test the s h i t out of it - because i never make empty claims - like all does trolls you see at gambling forums.

Today it is early morning, will soon take my kid to school and walk the dogs.
After that i will run 2 to 3 more simulations.

It is sad i will never use this as i am not Roulette System player - but its fun do.
And as i already know how to win and have a small edge i still regard this as one fun experiment.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Skakus

You're de champ Lucky Strike!  :thumbsup:

Don't you worry about all does trolls witch hang around dease forums.  :xd:
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

ego


What do i know now - first i can place 1000 bets and obtain 100 units flat betting.
What do i know now - i can hit 2.5 to 3.5 STD flat betting.
What do i know now - that it is utopia to believe that you allways can win.
What do i know now - well i have never seen any public random walk that beat this one.

The experiment continues.

1. I will run 4 to 5 more 300 sessions just to observe the results.
2. I will test this method using the original C h a r l e s - G u e t t i n g Progression.
3. I will add win target and stop-loss.
4. I will add capitalizing strategy.
5. I will try trading or trending with out play every trail.

At last i will simulate does points with 3000 to 5000 placed bets to get one overall picture.

RNG session 3





RNG session 4





RNG session 5



Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


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The Guetting Progression is most effectful in connection with a good tendency march witch i have - See above.

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The Guetting Progression is a four stage gain progression:



After two consecutive won bets in one stage the progression moves on to the next higher unit bet in that stage:


After the loss of a bet, the Guetting Progrssion steps down to the first unit size in the next lower stage, therefore down to 4, 1.5 or 1, depending, in which stage the bet was lost.

This loss can occur:
1.) if immediately after two consecutive won bets the next higher bet is lost
2.) if 2 consecutive losses appear.






In the next table we will compare flat betting and three well known progressions ( the Martingale, the d´Alembert and the Contre dÁlembert ) with the Guetting Progression:



Note ...
In real life to place 1.5 units - some one can play High/Low and place 0.20 on three lines witch become 0.60 - that would be 1.6 units if the base bet is 10 Euro for even money position and 2 Euro for straight up.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: ego on Mar 16, 04:53 AM 2012
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The Guetting Progression is most effectful in connection with a good tendency march witch i have - See above.

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The Guetting Progression is a four stage gain progression:



After two consecutive won bets in one stage the progression moves on to the next higher unit bet in that stage:


After the loss of a bet, the Guetting progression steps down to the first unit size in the next lower stage, therefore down to 4, 1.5 or 1, depending, in which stage the bet was lost.

This loss can occur:
1.) if immediately after two consecutive won bets the next higher bet is lost
2.) if 2 consecutive losses appear.






In the next table we will compare flat betting and three well known progressions ( the Martingale, the d´Alembert and the Contre dÁlembert ) with the Guetting Progression:



Note ...
In real life to place 1.5 units - some one can play High/Low and place 0.20 on three lines witch become 0.60 - that would be 1.6 units if the base bet is 10 Euro for even money position and 2 Euro for straight up.



Hello Ego

You lost me long time ago  O0
Can you make your posts little bit more user friendly?


Regards
Matt

ego


What do you mean user friendly - any one with some experience would understand the post you quote.
Study and read about Guetting or search internet if you can not follow.

And for the rest of the experiment - just ask with clear and specific question - then i can provide you with the right answer.

All you see is winnings and 20 to 30% fluctuation - that is all - flat betting.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

amk

Thanks for taking the time to post your valuable information Ego.

You make great contributions.

I feel I should do more but do the best I can.

ego

Quote from: amk on Mar 16, 12:55 PM 2012
Thanks for taking the time to post your valuable information Ego.

You make great contributions.

I feel I should do more but do the best I can.

Well if i could explain the march or random walk clear as water - i would.
I don't play even money bets or roulette systems.

I have three random walks witch obtain the same results - winning around 15 to 45 units flat betting placing 300 bets with 20 to 30% fluctation.

Now i know how to place 1000 bets and obtain 100 units and you don't need to play every trail doing so - it just made the challange more difficult or at least it feels that way as in the long run there should be no difference.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Big EZ

When you say that you have 3 random walks that provide you width these results ..... Does that mean you play a set pattern based on what has happened, or does it not have anything to do with set patterns
Quitting while your ahead is not the same as quitting

ego

Quote from: Big EZ on Mar 18, 10:43 PM 2012
When you say that you have 3 random walks that provide you width these results ..... Does that mean you play a set pattern based on what has happened, or does it not have anything to do with set patterns

Tricky question - i would say no past result is used - but in the same time there exist the minimum formations of witch has no existing balance present - so there is more that you know how the minimum present state looks like witch is 100% pure hovering around the "mean" or "average" with no existing imbalance towards any direction - so the conclusion is that you use the law of series as dimension 1 with the observation of present states as dimension 2 in the same time.

Then you just follow the flow with out betting aginst it and will catch everything above the "mean" or "average" flat betting.
The challange would be to find entering points and exist points with positive progression.
As i dont know how to coup with 20 to 30 % drawdowns or fluctation.

Point is i never see any one succed placing 1000 bets playing every trail and gain 100 units.
But as i state above every system has it weak spot as it would be utopi to state that postive expectaion exist as the game it self has negative expectation.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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