Proofreaders2000 posted a system named " Sidney One-A Three Outcome Trend Even Chance System"
I tested the system and I posted a graph of RX that was a loser.
Here is the graph
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After my post he imedeatelly DELETED IT !!!
After that I posted "Why did u deleted my post?" and he deleted it too !!!
After that i posted again "Man are u serious?
I posted the losing graph of your system and u deleted it??
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?? " And he deleted it too !!!!
The man has serious issues........be ware . He can t accept that his system can lose .... LoL
Maybe he could come and explain.
But it could be that for him, on the wheels HE uses, it could work!
Had U thought of that before U openly lambasted his Nicely Named system?
Perhaps Proof could explain.
Or he could PM me, if he would rather keep his council.
Here to help. :-\
You're fine Chrisbis, thanks :)
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@ RouletteExplorer: All bets are subject to the house edge, so potentially the worst case scenario is possible with Sidney One or any system.
Constructive criticism is welcomed, but to place an attack with the intent of hurting my reputation is not.
I would invite you to try Sidney One by hand (on a live reputable wheel) with play money, then after say 30 placed bets the worst happens, then we can address it.
there are some issues here, and i am not sure those issues are Proof's. He is a nice guy for what i know, and it is not frequent to see him avoiding discussion with someone. but there is someone else here (i won't say who) who has had some issues with some people here so far.
All I know is that I tested ur system on REAL CASINO numbers and I posted a graph...
This is what I also like for the members to do with my systems...testing and send feedback....So this is what I did in order to help and not to ruin ur reputation.
As you said all system are failing, so I just can t understand why you got so anxius and deleted my posts....this is just RUDE and shows of a person with mind problems.
Iggiv ur post is just irrelevant
sure my post is irrelevant. there is a good russian proverb about a single person in a platoon keeping a right step, and all the rest of the platoon just doesn't keep the step with him.
and by the way everyone has right to modify his thread as he finds it necessary, but nobody has right to call him mentally sick for it. i am giving u a little hint quietly here before i start censorship stuff. So please refrain from such remarks. thank u very much.
And this post of urs is also irrelevant.
Modifing a post is OK. deleting a genuine test is not.
"...deleting a genuine test is not."---RouletteExplorer
I do not know you well enough to vouch for your character. Your behavior here doesn't help to that end.
R.Expl:
if there is a goal to fool people and sell them a system -- then deleting test is bad. but nobody said that this system is infallible. Proof gave a reason why he deleted your posts. that's a pretty good reason if he feels that way. i understand him. i think some other people do too. So You can argue and blame everyone around u, if u think it will make u look right. I don't think so though. And if u call it RUDE, i did not see anything rude coming from Proof (he is a gent with a careful word selection, not like his opponent) , but rather i saw something rude said by u towards him.
and one more thing: when u tell a mod that his post (giving u a little hint how to behave in the forum) is irrelevant, u ask for a trouble, mister.
I have never scammed anyone and all my posts are genuine...so I can t see any problem with my posts.
You say all the time that roulette can t be beaten and this is what i have said enough of times....is this making you a bad member too?
Anyway I am tired with this Topic.
The final conclusion is that I gave a testing feedback and he deleted my post. this shows a man that has problems....
He could ask me if i tested his syetem correctly... this would be OK...but without even asking that and deleting a post shows that he isn t ok at all.
Mostt of his Topics are empty ....so if he likes that I will keep it like this and never post anything in his posts.
i (or anyone else) have never said u scammed anyone. your problem is of another kind. till u realize u got one u will have a lack of understanding with some people. Proof is only one example.
"You say all the time that roulette can t be beaten"
i have never said that. but that is irrelevant now. what u or me say about roulette doesn't matter now. it is not about our points of view, i have never had anything against your point of view on roulette. it is rather how to express your point of view and interact with others who disagree with u on something. doesn't matter on what. be it roulette or something else.
you have right to express any point of view as long as u don't get in trouble with others. as for me defeating roulette with voodoo or black magic is OK if u don't attack others.
When I am doing testing for giving feedback for an other member system and my efforts are being deleted because the member doesn t like that his system lost then I am OK and he is WRONG.
Simple as that....
that's good now. way to go. bravo! if u express your opinions just like this -- u r an example of a gentleman. thanks.
and sorry about your effort lost. well, that's life.
"He could ask me if i tested his syetem correctly... this would be OK...but without even asking that and deleting a post shows that he isn t ok at all.
Mostt of his Topics are empty ....so if he likes that I will keep it like this and never post anything in his posts."---Roulette Explorer
My purpose of posting system ideas is to share ideas and for constructive criticisms.
Not only have you screamed I'm insane, you have posted a graph of something you say is my system losing (no reference to the casino used, or any details about what bets were made or how long the sessions were. Now you disparage by how many posts are made on my topics
Why are you on this crusade against me?
"""Why are you on this crusade against me?"""
I had never had any problems with you and you didn t had with me either....
I am am not on any crusade against you....this thing that happened between us is YOU that you are responsible.....
The system of urs were tested with the exact way that you posted it.....
You didn t even bother to ask if i tested it with the correct way....you just got afraid of not the other members to see that your system losing and you imedeatelly deleted my posts. This is sad.
I don't want to have any relationship with the people of your kind....
so the discassion is over.
"this thing that happened between us is YOU that you are responsible....."
well, leopard doesn't change his spots, what can i say. it is all the same story again. whatever happens, your opponents are always responsible for anything that u do or say against them. u will never learn. never.
that's sad.
u see, u post a thread, claiming he has mental problems. he is asking u why You are on crusade against him-- normal question to your weird thread. U say u don't wanna do anything with him, he is responsible. that's very nice. U were clearly rude to him, u tried to draw negative attention to his personality, now u say he is responsible and discussion is over. You achieved what u wanted. U think.
but in in reality u again showed your nice colours. Good for u
That sounds like a battle between two kids.
Mathematically, all systems are losing. Some have advantage over others, and also disadvantage. Can't we share theses Pros and Cons here? Because I believe that's what this forum is for.
>> Learning from each others.
Stop bickering, honestly. You both are usually always polite and agreeable. I don't want the answer to who's right or not or start shitstorm here. I'm maybe not a Global Moderator but I think this is getting out of hands.
So while you two make your decision I'm gonna use my spare time in a more practical way:
Studying roulette.
I also reply to that topic as i am expert regarding classical systems for even money bets.
After reading this topic i took a look and he had delete my reply also - strange.
I just pinpoint out what was and what was not.
It is OK if some one play it right and i show a graph regarding that.
(link:://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3909/trend4et5.jpg)
Now i am going to post the original - just to state my point.
@ Ego: Your post had nothing to do with the topic (Hank One). The graph may have confused newcomers who may not have fully understood what my system was about. I would have appreciated if you had PM'd me about the graph first (since it was off-topic).
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Sep 22, 12:36 AM 2011
@ Ego: Your post had nothing to do with the topic (Hank One). The graph may have confused newcomers who may not have fully understood what my system was about. I would have appreciated if you had PM'd me about the graph first (since it was off-topic).
How could it been of topic when with or against RRB is same using any formation of three and result with my chart is what you would get ...
"How could it been of topic when with or against RRB is same using any formation of three and result with my chart is what you would get ..."--Ego
Sidney1 deals specifically with dominant ec. RRB--bet R. Saying both ways works is not in accordance with the system procedure. Posting an imposing chart about your system defeats the purpose of the thread.
Not true ...
If you have RRB and bet R it is the same thing as having RRR and bet R or having RRR and bet B or having RRB and bet B.
The result is same as you can not change the math.
So no matter with horse you ride - the result is same.
Quote from: nitrix on Sep 22, 12:17 AM 2011
That sounds like a battle between two kids.
Mathematically, all systems are losing. Some have advantage over others, and also disadvantage. Can't we share theses Pros and Cons here? Because I believe that's what this forum is for.
>> Learning from each others.
Stop bickering, honestly. You both are usually always polite and agreeable. I don't want the answer to who's right or not or start shitstorm here. I'm maybe not a Global Moderator but I think this is getting out of hands.
So while you two make your decision I'm gonna use my spare time in a more practical way:
Studying roulette.
this is not a battle. all i am interested about here is just to prevent troubles and have quiet normal discussion. so as long as roulette is discussed i am more than happy. thanks
I have known Proof on these boards for YEARS, he is a stand-up kind of guy!!
Ken
Here is not a thread to vote if Proof2000 is a nice person or not.....
here is a topic that shows a bad behavior of him.
OK, Roulette Explorer.
if u don't stop bothering members on this forum and creating conflicts around your valuable person, i am gonna ask Steve what to do with a troublemaker like u. Period. I am not sure what other mods think of the situation but i think u just have been too much headache for this forum.
i would like to ask other mods though what they think. i clearly see u steer troubles here.
God is a witness, i have been patient and gave u enough hints
I think that u are imagining things igiv.
Anyone with a normal brain if he will read all my posts in here will see that all I do is help,improve and test.
But as I see you have problem with me without reason.
Proofreaders 2000 Sidney system is playable just like any other EC method as long as one KNOWS how to handle them.
It`s certainly not for people who want to sit for hours at a table and walk home with a pile of money.It`s short term .
The basic idea is sound and it is up to each gambler how to apply the MM to the bet selection .
By the way there is NO way one can test this method. It boils down to : "the next spin is independent from the previous one."
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 22, 07:14 AM 2011
if he will read all my posts in here will see that all I do is help,improve and test.
This is true. I think RouletteExplorer was the right.
If help is not asked one shall not give it.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Thanks Speed
Quote from: iggiv on Sep 22, 07:01 AM 2011
OK, Roulette Explorer.
if u don't stop bothering members on this forum and creating conflicts around your valuable person, i am gonna ask Steve what to do with a troublemaker like u. Period. I am not sure what other mods think of the situation but i think u just have been too much headache for this forum.
i would like to ask other mods though what they think. i clearly see u steer troubles here.
God is a witness, i have been patient and gave u enough hints
I agree 100%. You (RE) officially have a WARNING to 'cool it' with the other members. If you dont agree with something, let it slide.
Ken
never trust a statistic or a test which you did not alter yourself. ( TSU NAN FU)
n.d..
R. explorer, u been warned. yes, i have a problem with u. I see u as as a headache here. One who desires attention and is not capable of a normal friendly discussion with people which do not share his views. If u don't stop arguing telling how good u r and how bad are those u got in trouble with -- u will get in trouble. i know very well, that u left this forum quite a few times with scandals and came back under different nicks. and u always accuse people which u get in trouble with. and people like me or Proof -- we are friendly people, we are not those who get in trouble easily.
so again -- You have been warned, and it is very easy for u to get banned now i think. and if u do get banned we (mods) will take care of banning your other come-back nicks as well.
so i give u my advice -- stop arguing and accusing your opponents. cool down a bit and hide a little your big pride and your huge ego, be nice and normal just like other people in this board. Stop drawing attention to yourself by snitching and accusing others and everything is gonna be OK.
but if u keep arguing like this with me (and others) -- u will keep cutting the tree branch u r sitting on.
Nathan u r right as always about playing for hours and losing