Hey Friends,
We can see lots of system sellers claim on their websites as if they are selling the holy grail.
Few lines from them:
Quote
Hello, my name is Michael. Glad to see you here.
Why did I create this website? It's simple ââ,¬â€
I have solved the secret to playing roulette
and winning on a regular basis!
It's possible to beat the game of roulette
using my 100% roulette winning system!
QuoteSo I changed the problem. What if I found the biggest probability of winning? And I found it. Itââ,¬â,,¢s the winning rate of 94.6% and this with FLAT bets (not the 98% of BS Martingale system). Yeah you heard right. There is a modality of betting on flat bets from where you have a 94.6% winning rate.
What will happen if any system starts extracting profit from all casinos, in all sessions?[/size]
They will close the Roulette table.
Funny there was a story in which that happened (can't find it on the internet now) but I read a guy with his system won $40,000 and they closed the online wheel.
Are you talking about the guy in UK who got banned?
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 04, 10:27 PM 2011
They will close the Roulette table.
Funny there was a story in which that happened (can't find it on the internet now) but I read a guy with his system won $40,000 and they closed the online wheel.
Wowie, I've heard about the black sheet put onto the roulette table when somebody breaks the bank at some casinos... kind of an abrupt stop-loss by them!
Only story I know is that of Norman Leigh.
what i know is all these people were not system players but rather advantage players.
yes some got banned from casinos for playing and winning with systems but that was small comparing to advantage players.
click "LOOK INSIDE"
link:://:.amazon.com/Beating-Wheel-System-Million-Dollars/dp/0818405538/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1299308726&sr=1-2 (link:://:.amazon.com/Beating-Wheel-System-Million-Dollars/dp/0818405538/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1299308726&sr=1-2)
My guess is that IF such a thing were to be released a casino group would immediately offer so much money to buy the rights to it that the author would unhesitatingly agree.
Vested interests would win the day.
After all, oil companies have already done this regarding motors that run on water. [And look where our mindless dependence on oil has got us...]
there is no simple method to win roulette on a long run. It doesn't exist. Except advantage play of course
If you consider bias analysis, dealer's signature, visual ballistics etc. to be advantage play and think anyone can master it, my friend you are mistaken. Such things exists in fictions only. No one can predict the next outcomes by any means.
i have never said "anyone can master it".
If none can master it, what is the meaning of advantage play and who is advantage player?
I have never said that NONE can master and I have never said that anyone can master it. Only handful of people can master it. Unfortunately i am not one of them. It is very hard.
Hello Ladies inhere !!!
Want to involve myself in this discussion a bit...
Firstofall I want to make my standpoint clear:
I do not only strongly b e l i e v e that there IS a so called "Holy Grail" for to win consistently at Roulette,
I definitely K N O W , that there IS one or more of this strategies existing out there...
Such a "Holy Grail" ( HG ) is NOT a bet or a way of betting, where You win every spin
or every second or third spin, but where You can and will win EVERY daily session
at B & M Casino`s or at Online LIVE Casino consistently, and also ( on that basis) every week session
and the monthly outcome would be very profitable as well ...
I think, the problem, what will happen I F such a holy grail comes out in PUBLIC is this one:
1) IF the HG is something very difficult to play, OR
2) IF it would take many hours every day before You can start to bet, OR
3) IF it would take many hours and many spins to have a positive outcome, OR
4) IF it would need to write down endless charts and numbers at every day`s session and keep records for hours etc. ...
. . . THEN it would cause NO harm to release the HG to the public, because it only would be used by a handful of Roulette Extremists and fanatics in the long run and such a little group would do no harm to worldwide Casino Scene . . . Right ? -- OK !!
_______________________________________________________________
On the other hand, IF a HG would be a strategy, which is :
1) EASY to understand, and
2) EASY to play for nearly everyone out there, additional
3) EASY to write down or easy to remember for many people
... THEN it would be very dangerous AND very irresponsible to release such a HG
to the public or release it on public gambling or roulette forums in any form !!!
I sincerely think, these are some of the important parameters, which must be
discussed and discussed again by someone, who is in possession of such a HG !!!!!
What is YOUR opinion of that important points ?
>>> Really thrilled to hear different thoughts on this ...
Your friend
ROLF
there is no holy grail as it is. I mean no mechanical system can beat roulette on a long run. It is a proven fact. But there are ways to beat roulette, that is also a proven fact. They can not be easy, and not everyone can use them, only a few very smart, talented, disciplined, strong will, hard working people. If average Joe were capable to do it -- roulette would not exist in casinos anymore.
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 05, 02:15 AM 2011
There is no simple method to win roulette on a long run. It doesn't exist. Except advantage play of course
There are a few methods that destroy roulette. The weak link is the players lack of discipline not the method never forget that.
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 05, 12:37 PM 2011
There is no holy grail as it is. I mean no mechanical system can beat roulette on a long run. It is a proven fact. But there are ways to beat roulette, that is also a proven fact. They can not be easy, and not everyone can use them, only a few very smart, talented, disciplined, strong will, hard working people. If average Joe were capable to do it -- roulette would not exist in casinos anymore.
How do you know all this about me,Iggiv???? 8) 8) 8)
Only 2 highlight this again:
Such a "Holy Grail" ( method ) is NOT a bet or a way of betting,
where You win every spin
or every second or third spin,
but where You can and will win EVERY daily session
at B & M Casino`s or at Online LIVE Casino consistently,
and also ( on that basis ) every weeks session
and the monthly outcome would be very profitable as well . . .
$Ã,§:->))
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 05, 01:03 PM 2011
There are a few methods that destroy roulette. The weak link is the players lack of discipline not the method never forget that.
i agree. but not simply using some mechanical system. Using some mechanical systems -- yes, but they are only part of the strategy. And it is not only about discipline.
YES, without Discipline and a proper Money Managment
the best strategy will fail, BECAUSE we don`t use it in the right way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 05, 01:40 PM 2011
i agree. but not simply using some mechanical system. Using some mechanical systems -- yes, but they are only part of the strategy. And it is not only about discipline.
I know something about reading a methods strengths and understanding its weaknesses. This afterall is my living. Discipline and patience are CRUCIAL or forget it you don't stand a chance.
A mechanical method can indeed beat ROULETTE, so long as you know its weakness and how best to avoid it. I have made a living since 2004 with this game. My first bread and butter method was called the ZONE. Its weakness was a streak of 5 8plus losing streaks for the the DOZENS. This was avoided for 100s of winning sessions by keeping them short. A snipe play method.
If I gave the same method to some greedy undisciplined player. They would lose no question. This is where the DISCIPLINE AND PATIENCE comes in. Look at human beings in general, the vast majority are greedy and impatient, especially when it comes to gambling.
They want a fortune overnight. And the ALLTIME biggest error made by gamblers is bringing a 100 units to win
100 units WRONG. Your powerbase (bankroll) should ALWAYS BE AT LEAST 25 FOLD Your daily profit expectancy. What I'm saying here basically is a GOOD METHOD in the wrong hands is WORTHLESS.
Without SUPERIOR MONEY MANAGEMENT, PATIENCE an DISCIPLINE, you don't stand a chance...
I WANT AND MUST SUPPORT THIS POSTING FAR MORE THEN 100 % !!!!
Absolute brilliant, John !!!!!Sincerely,
ROLF
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 05, 03:07 PM 2011
I know something about reading a methods strengths and understanding its weaknesses. This afterall is my living. Discipline and patience are CRUCIAL or forget it you don't stand a chance.
A mechanical method can indeed beat ROULETTE, so long as you know its weakness and how best to avoid it. I have made a living since 2004 with this game. My first bread and butter method was called the ZONE. Its weakness was a streak of 5 8plus losing streaks for the the DOZENS. This was avoided for 100s of winning sessions by keeping them short. A snipe play method.
If I gave the the same method to some greedy undisciplined player. They would lose no question. This is where the DISCIPLINE AND PATIENCE comes in. Look at human beings in general, the vast majority are greedy and impatient, especially when it comes to gambling.
They want a fortune overnight. And the ALLTIME biggest error made by gamblers is bringing a 100 units to win
100 units WRONG. Your powerbase (bankroll) should ALWAYS BE AT LEAST 25 FOLD Your daily profit expectancy. What I'm saying here basically is a GOOD METHOD in the wrong hands is WORTHLESS.
Without SUPERIOR MONEY MANAGEMENT, PATIENCE an DISCIPLINE, you don't stand a chance...
Quote from: BlackPearl on Mar 05, 03:13 PM 2011
I WANT AND MUST SUPPORT THIS POSTING FAR MORE THEN 100 % !!!!
Absolute brilliant, John !!!!!
Sincerely,
ROLF
Thankyou BLACK PEARL, that is simply how it is. There is no HOLY GRAIL. There are GOOD METHODS and BAD METHODS. But in the wrong hands they're ALL BAD.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 05, 03:07 PM 2011
I know something about reading a methods strengths and understanding its weaknesses. This afterall is my living. Discipline and patience are CRUCIAL or forget it you don't stand a chance.
A mechanical method can indeed beat ROULETTE, so long as you know its weakness and how best to avoid it. I have made a living since 2004 with this game. My first bread and butter method was called the ZONE. Its weakness was a streak of 5 8plus losing streaks for the the DOZENS. This was avoided for 100s of winning sessions by keeping them short. A snipe play method.
If I gave the same method to some greedy undisciplined player. They would lose no question. This is where the DISCIPLINE AND PATIENCE comes in. Look at human beings in general, the vast majority are greedy and impatient, especially when it comes to gambling.
They want a fortune overnight. And the ALLTIME biggest error made by gamblers is bringing a 100 units to win
100 units WRONG. Your powerbase (bankroll) should ALWAYS BE AT LEAST 25 FOLD Your daily profit expectancy. What I'm saying here basically is a GOOD METHOD in the wrong hands is WORTHLESS.
Without SUPERIOR MONEY MANAGEMENT, PATIENCE an DISCIPLINE, you don't stand a chance...
Man, there's nothing more to add to that. It needs to be put up in a "sticky" and made mandatory reading by every new member who shows up.
100% correct.
AD
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 05, 03:25 PM 2011
Thankyou BLACK PEARL, that is simply how it is. There is no HOLY GRAIL. There are GOOD METHODS and BAD METHODS. But in the wrong hands they're ALL BAD.
yes, i agree with that
There's also the issue of time. How much is your time worth? So you have a viable method. What's the point of playing if you just win a small amount after a couple of hours.
I thinks that there are natural born gamblers who do make a living playing in casinos - I doubt that Roulette is where they would migrate.
Beyond that if anything does beat Roulette the core concept will be something that no Roulette player has thought of since 1765 when modern Roulette was born.
Imagine the millions of minds at work for 300+ years and someone finally breaks Roulette - it would probably contain some element of mathematics that would win the gambler the Nobel Prize for Mathematics.
Of course Roulette tables would be thrown in the streets and slot machines would replace them in one night around the globe.
My bet is that anyone showing a winning streak would eventually give it all back and more - it has happened millions of times in the past and will do so into the future.....
Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 05, 09:23 PM 2011
I thinks that there are natural born gamblers who do make a living playing in casinos - I doubt that Roulette is where they would migrate.
Beyond that if anything does beat Roulette the core concept will be something that no Roulette player has thought of since 1765 when modern Roulette was born.
Imagine the millions of minds at work for 300+ years and someone finally breaks Roulette - it would probably contain some element of mathematics that would win the gambler the Nobel Prize for Mathematics.
Of course Roulette tables would be thrown in the streets and slot machines would replace them in one night around the globe.
My bet is that anyone showing a winning streak would eventually give it all back and more - it has happened millions of times in the past and will do so into the future.....
bud u r so stubborn. If u used your stubborness to beat the roulette maybe u could achieve something. But your stubborness is all negative. That's a problem. I doubt it helps.
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 05, 10:00 PM 2011
bud you are so stubborn. If you used your stubborness to beat the roulette maybe you could achieve something. But your stubborness is all negative. That's a problem. I doubt it helps.
By stubbornness do you mean my hard nosed attitude towards things that seem impossible?
I pleas guilty in that matter - if someone actually broke Roulette they would not be in any Roulette chatroom bragging about it - they would be playing Roulette carefully and amassing a fortune before the casinos cough on and outlawed Roulette.
Does anyone here think that someone smart enough to beat Roulette after 300 years is nuts? Or going to give it away or boast about it?
Get real guys - I haunt Roulette chatrooms for tidbits of ideas to stimulate my mind in the area of Money Management since I know that Roulette, itself, can't be broken. Proof is in the 300 years it has lasted.......
It can not be beaten with 100% success rate but it can be mend to give profits.
Wohooh !!!
Bow down ALL and say "THANK YOU !!!" to Your "Global"
(or provincial ?) Moderator Esoito !!! Clap hands and dance!!!
He has just closed my Topic about the TS2S Strategy,
ALTHOUGH :
- I HAD APOLOGIZED PUBLICLY FOR MY WAY OF POSTING . . . and
- I HAD ANNOUNCED TO EXPLAIN THE BACKGROUND OF THE THREAD AND MY MOTIVES
So he robbed many of You the chance to participate in searching for a way
to make a REAL HOLY GRAIL available for many of us and this WITHOUT harming
or damaging the Roulette Scene etc. ...
This would have been the heading of my next Topic for discussing it with You..
But now I am in extreme doubt of doin so...
If anyone is openminded here, You can contact me private at:
C-Solution@safe-mail.net
This is for Victor: maybe its good to to rotate Moderatorship for Esoito a while
to give him rest, not to overreact again and step on small boys like me again?
Whatever . . . we all have the choice
Good Sunday All
ROLF
@Black Pearl.
I think U should Leave any attack on ANY of our Moderators, just where it lies at the Moment Mr Rolf Harris Pearl
..................In Ur Minds Eye.
The Global Moderators (that's what we call them round here), do a very fine job, and I would back them up anytime/EVERYTIME.
Esoito did the correct thing.
And actually, there was no need at all for U to throw YOUR dummy out of the pram, all Esoito did, was 'Suspend' the Topic, and asked U, to forward a PM (Private Message) to him, for scrutiny as to WHY the Topic should be re-opened.
That's all U needed to do. Not come over here and cry.
Now Sir.
Please, take some deep breaths, swollow a Lot of humble pie, and just open a new Thread, Entitled..........."Black Pearl's Explanation Of The TS2S Strategy."
The Globals will link the two together, so there will be absolutely no loss of 'continuation'.
U started off so well here.............now show Us, the Community, what Ur really made of, and post up something worthy of Discussion, Debate and Delight!
I urge U to be careful with Ur words Rolf. Thread/Tread very carefully.
We will treat U, in the manner in which U would like to be treated.
And in the eyes of the Lord...........we love ALL ours Brothers/Sisters..................Equally.
I hope U will take this Posting, as a friendly, open letter, to one our Forums New rising Stars.
Now SHINE MR PEARL. ;)
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 06, 05:04 AM 2011
I shouldnt have to work hard at it day by day, treat it as if I'm running a business.
When the REALITY is, that is EXACTLY what you must do, if you want to be successful longterm.
Brilliant Post...
We can beat roulette but can't defeat it. I mean to say, we can not completely eliminate the risk of losing, irrespective of any system/method we use.
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 06, 09:30 PM 2011
We can beat roulette but can't defeat it. I mean to say, we can not completely eliminate the risk of losing, irrespective of any system/method we use.
If you played straight Red or Black for 6 hours, 300 spins, you can expect to lose table minimums * 300 * 1/37 or for a $10 table $81 at an European wheel.
How much should a "winning" system win? Should it make $81 in 300 spins or $181 or $1,081 or $10,081?
Folks who claim to have winning systems never seem to have the answer - funny.....
usually it ain't gonna be very smart to play 300 spins in a row with the same system.
but if we talk 300 spins with certain breaks then it could be a different story. I guess John L. has some reasons to say what he is saying. I don't think he is gonna play 300 spins in a row. He is rather gonna spread them into a few sessions and probably a few days as well.
am i right, John?
@Frost
that was a very insightful post you just made.
Brilliant examination of taking someone quite literally, and spinning an advantage.......
............no matter how small that advantage.
How many more 20 Reds...........are there, within the 'Game', that we can explore, an then put them all together, to make one fabulous journey throughout a days session.?
Its the FUTURE OF ROULETTE BETTING!!.
@ All :
I must correct myself a bit in regard of a "Consistant Winning Strategy" :
IF we could use such a H.G.- method and play ( as an example) FIVE times a week
while using a "StopLoss"-mark and also a "WinningGoal"-mark at the same time,
well, there could be some rare loosing streaks at a few days each month,
but we WILL win on much more days then we will loose !!!
A real H.G. should have an expectation of ( as an example again...) 5 uo to 10 daily winning sessions and ONE loosing session in between...
I think, this must be achievable
Heartfelt greetinX
ROLF
The Holy Grail of stock market systems is well known - simply buy the DJIA and hold for 40+ years until you retire - averages 12% for over 120+ years.
No person, not even Warren Buffett, can beat this record; Buffet is just shy of this.
No hedge fund, no mutual fund, no MIT geniuses can beat that 12% per year for 120+ years.
But this isn't good enough for investors; there are more mutual funds than stocks and the manager of everyone of those funds is a multimillionaire from that dissatisfaction of 12%.
So what if it turned out that the Holy Grail, for Roulette, turned out to be a winning average of 12% more than the average for just playing Black/Red all night long? Would gamblers stand for this?
So for a European wheel Red wins 18/37 or 48.64% it was 12% more at 60.64%
Out of a 100 spin session that means you win 60 spins and lose 40 spins. Flat betting $10 a spin (1% risked per spin) means your $1,000 BR ends at $1,200
Is that good enough? It does mean there will be losing sessions too. Green 0 will show up and destroy winning streaks.
My guess is that gamblers would not accept 12% and want more......
GLOBAL MODERATOR'S ADVISORY
I've just removed some completely empty posts from this thread -- as in No. Words. Inside.The. Post. ???
It's possible the forum is 'playing up' after its rebirth.
Or it's a case of 'poster error'.
Or I'm on the wrong tablets.
Or...?
So my apologies if there actually WERE words in the removed posts. But I couldn't actually see them!!
Ur quite right.
There are a few knocking about.
Winkel has got one somewhere too!
It could be because of the move.
Quote from: esoito on Mar 09, 03:11 AM 2011
GLOBAL MODERATOR'S ADVISORY
I've just removed some completely empty posts from this thread -- as in No. Words. Inside.The. Post. ???
It's possible the forum is 'playing up' after its rebirth.
Or it's a case of 'poster error'.
Or I'm on the wrong tablets.
Or...?
So my apologies if there actually WERE words in the removed posts. But I couldn't actually see them!!
You shouldnÂÃ,´t remove the posts!
There is something wrong with the backup.
In my threads img and posts are missing as well.
OK Winkel. Thanks for the advice.
Luckily it was only about 3 or 4 wordless posts I removed before I had sudden doubts. :-[
Strange though the way 'empty' posts appeared amongst 'full' posts...
Hopefully Victor will be able to advise.
Is this the only thread on which it happened? Attachments directory wasn't configured rigtht, so images wouldn't load. That -I presume- was the reason. It had nothing to do with the database (thankfully!).
I'll scavenge the posts at the forum's recycle bin.
Good man :thumbsup:
(Nothing like a nice scavenge now and again ;))
Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 07, 11:38 AM 2011
My guess is that gamblers would not accept 12% and want more......
There is a guy on another forum currently demonstrating his methods of play to pretty much anyone who wants to join him.
His target is to win 10% of his bankroll each day for 30 days.
He started with $500 and is doing amazingly well! He has several followers who will bet alongside with him (he is in contact with everyone via Skype) and if they elect to play along in the same game with him, they just bet the same as him. Actually it's very simple. I'm surprised that nobody here has done anything like this.
The amazing part is that he's actually pulling it off!!
You do the math.
Most of the time they're playing too late for me but I do see the screen shots the next day and it's killing me that I'm not "tagging" along.
Anyway, don't scoff at a "mere" 10% win, especially if you can keep doing it with some degree of regularity.
AD
Quote from: ADulay on Mar 09, 08:27 PM 2011
There is a guy on another forum currently demonstrating his methods of play to pretty much anyone who wants to join him.
His target is to win 10% of his bankroll each day for 30 days.
He started with $500 and is doing amazingly well! He has several followers who will bet alongside with him (he is in contact with everyone via Skype) and if they elect to play along in the same game with him, they just bet the same as him. Actually it's very simple. I'm surprised that nobody here has done anything like this.
The amazing part is that he's actually pulling it off!!
You do the math.
Most of the time they're playing too late for me but I do see the screen shots the next day and it's killing me that I'm not "tagging" along.
Anyway, don't scoff at a "mere" 10% win, especially if you can keep doing it with some degree of regularity.
AD
I guess if you live near a casino making 10% per session makes sense.
My challenge is for 100 spins or at least 2 hrs on a live chat-room and live wheel.
Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 09, 10:42 PM 2011
I guess if you live near a casino making 10% per session makes sense.
My challenge is for 100 spins or at least 2 hrs on a live chat-room and live wheel.
OK, I'll take the bait.
What is your challenge of 100 spins or 2 hours.
I haven't heard of it yet so I must be obviously in the minority.
Also, they're doing that 10% strictly online so everyone can join in if they wish.
AD
Quote from: ADulay on Mar 09, 10:55 PM 2011
OK, I'll take the bait.
What is your challenge of 100 spins or 2 hours.
I haven't heard of it yet so I must be obviously in the minority.
Also, they're doing that 10% strictly online so everyone can join in if they wish.
AD
Here's how:
This is all easier if you have 2 monitors or 2 PCs - that I can't help you with.
Step 1 - get live TV Roulette working
Simply place your mouse over the following link and right click the mouse - you will see a menu. Click "Open link in new Browser" or "Open link in new tab" - the choice is yours:
link:://:.smartlivecasino.com/welcome.html (link:://:.smartlivecasino.com/welcome.html)
Now click the "Live Auto Roulette Wheel" and "Free Play"
You now have a live TV Roulette wheel that goes 24/7 and just wait for the next spin. You can actually bet, with play money, which I suggest you do
You can get the last 185 spins by:
1) Click "stats" tab in lower left window
2) Click "Last 185" tab and you will see the last 185 spins
Step 2 - Get Live chatroom running
Click the "Enter Chat" tab at the left of this page
You are now live and running.
If you want to see what chats have taken place in the last few minutes type in:
/Back 200
That will give you the last 200 conversations in the last 24-hrs
==============================================
It's really easy, just notify folks when you wish to demonstrate your system and follow the instructions above.
Simple as pie....3.14159..................
Here's another live TV Roulette Table: link:://:.challengejackpot.com/live_roulette (link:://:.challengejackpot.com/live_roulette)
Quote from: iggiv on Mar 06, 10:56 PM 2011
Usually it ain't gonna be very smart to play 300 spins in a row with the same system.
but if we talk 300 spins with certain breaks then it could be a different story. I guess John L. has some reasons to say what he is saying. I don't think he is gonna play 300 spins in a row. He is rather gonna spread them into a few sessions and probably a few days as well.
am I right, John?
You are absolutely right Iggiv, its not a race. The idea is to secure PROFIT, not get into a war with the wheel.
THE SHORTER YOUR SESSION IS THE BETTER.
As a player your objective should be to build a powerful bankroll at least 25 times the size of you daily profit expectancy. Then you should aim to increase the value of a point, so you need to win LESS OF THEM, to meet daily, weekly profit margin goals, EXAMPLE.
ONE POINT =5 UNTS=1 WIN
ONE POINT =1 UNIT=5 WINS
If you only have to win once to gain five units, its better than having to beat random five times to attain the same amount. That should be your goal.
THE TRUE GAMBLERS FALLACY is the gambler who brings 100 units to win 100 units. THEY WILL NEARLY ALWAYS GO BUST. I cannot overstate the importance of Superor money management enough...
But also good judgement and short sessions are smart, close the window on random quickly and a good method will without question produce OVERALL PROFIT...
I've heard of the "quickie" Roulette systems - play a few spins and out you go.
That's total nonsense.
Playing a few spins, and getting a small profit is ridiculous.
The same can happen for getting losses.
I've seen a guy who wants to make a small amount of profit each day and call it quits until the next day/session.
One day/session all hell will break lose and he has to play until he makes $1 or goes bust - he will go bust.
This is just another version of the Gambler's Fallacy - pure fantasy; Mother Nature doesn't owe you a thing; the outcome from Roulette is totally random.
Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 10, 11:27 AM 2011
I've heard of the "quickie" Roulette systems - play a few spins and out you go.
That's total nonsense.
Playing a few spins, and getting a small profit is ridiculous.
The same can happen for getting losses.
I've seen a guy who wants to make a small amount of profit each day and call it quits until the next day/session.
One day/session all hell will break lose and he has to play until he makes $1 or goes bust - he will go bust.
This is just another version of the Gambler's Fallacy - pure fantasy; Mother Nature doesn't owe you a thing; the outcome from Roulette is totally random.
Who said anything about A few spins?
If your method is as good as MATRIX VERTICAL 3 The first thing you know is that it loses infrequently. The second thing you know is shorter sessions can indeed avoid a lost progression. Ive already had a winning
streak of 172 in a row. You know very little about roulette and the more you post, the more obvious this becomes.
You are not understanding a lot here, your mind is used to playing basic hands at the blackjack table or simple red or black in roulette.
Until you stop whinging about what you think cant be done and start learning something nothing will change. Beating roulette is not easy but believe me its very possible. And it will never be mainstream, because it takes hard work patience and discipline. Qualities the average joe simply lacks.
may the sun set upon you quickly Mauisunset. Its time to go to sleep for you. Roulette can be beaten. On the single zero wheel. Send me any 100 spins and I will show you. Playing only 9 numbers.
or just go sleeping :lol:
Twocando
PS would you like the boffin bet?
Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 09, 11:13 PM 2011
Here's how:
This is all easier if you have 2 monitors or 2 PCs - that I can't help you with.
OK, I've got all that but what's the challenge about?
I've read through the thread and don't seem to understand what it is you're attempting to challenge?
I get the 300 spins or two hours. What does this apply to?
AD
Anyone can come on an internet gambling site and make all kinds of wild, wacky claims not grounded in any kind of science or math that is taught in university.
For those that brag about beating Roulette your boasting is childish - I just ask that if you want to brag about being such a great Roulette player prove it to us in a live chatroom and a live TV Roulette wheel.
I proposed 3 sessions of 2-hours or 100 min spins each - they can be spread over time but after 300 spins any system will show it's true stripes.
So far only one person, not on this chatroom, has had the guts to demo their system. They did not do well and spent 1 month perfecting their system and will try for session #2 next Monday, March 14, 2011.
Anyone can have a bad session, maybe 2 but 3 sessions of losing means that no person will use the system - it's bogus.
So that's my challenge; many have boasted but all give lots of creative excuses that belong on Saturday Night Live.
To make this interesting I'm putting up a $25 Outback Gift Certificate to the first person who makes $1 profit from any of their demo sessions. (Of course I must be there in order to award the prize)
So where's the beef?????
OK, I understand it now.
I was thinking it was something else.
Thanks for explaining it.
AD
Quote from: Twocando on Mar 10, 12:53 PM 2011
May the sun set upon you quickly Mauisunset. Its time to go to sleep for you. Roulette can be beaten. On the single zero wheel. Send me any 100 spins and I will show you. Playing only 9 numbers.
or just go sleeping :LoL:
Twocando
PS would you like the boffin bet?
Just accept my challenge and win $25 in Outback gift certificates.....