How about a fibonacci where you reset on ANY win
lets say you choose low 1-18
Lose -10
Lose -20
Lose -30
Lose -50
Lose -80
Win +130
win +10
lose -10
lose -20
lose -30
win +50
on this example we are only down $60
only down 60 when we only WON 3 out of 11 bets
so winning 3 out of a 11 is not a huge loss and believe me the wins will come back
a way to really minimize losses?
test it!
It's a very risky progression and you may hit the table limits.
Google the Guetting Progression and the Wrangler March bet selection on EC.
A solid bet selection along with a positive progression is a lot safer.
Regards,
you would never hit the table limit on a Fibonacci. i mean its possible but HIGHLY unlikely
and it was you that said this "Consider betting H or L, they repeat within 9 spins with a high percentage"
trust me betting on high or low u would never hit the table limit on a Fibonacci, especially my version where you reset on a win.........
FYI, to hit the table limit betting on LOW 1-18 with a Fibonacci using my system you'd have to lose like 15 times in a row. never happen
simple idea. use a Fibonacci progression then when you win, instead of continuing, reset
They do repeat within 9 spins, but not always. Play long enough, say 4 times a week, for several years, and you will see the high dozen repeat 15 spins, or black repeat 17 spins, or even zero repeat 4 times in a row. Heck, once I saw #27 hit 4 times in a row.
If you like an EC bet on H/L with a Fibonacci I would suggest you wait til one sleeps 7 spins then start betting on it. The table max at Dublin is $500 on EC, so you would have 9 chances to hit it at your $10 example bet.
All I was saying is bet selection is the first key. It is what will make or break you. SECOND is the progression. Without a good bet selection no negative progression is safe, and really, any negative progression on EC is risky.
Rich, here's a similar idea using D'Alembert and a trigger. There was a lot of interest in it for a while, so you might find something that you can use to make your idea more appealing.
GLC
@richbailey86
Thanks for the post. In the above example, assuming u did not win on the 6th bet, would u please let us know what would be
the progression for the next 4 bets thanks.
Thanks GLC ill look into it.
And chris if I lost the 6th bet my next bet would be the next step in a fibonacci progression, then on a win id reset to the beginning. The difference between my modified fibonnaci and the original is instead of going down 1 or 2 steps after a win trying to secure 2 wins in a row, I go back to the beginning after a single win
See example again
Minimizes losses
Hi Rich,
My result just now was +24 in 100 spins betting LOW each spin...
Playing your way and resetting after each win to the first step EXCEPT - I am using 2 stages to each bet element/step of the Fibo...
:)
1-1-2-2-3-3-5-5-8-8-13-13-21-21-34-34....
A.
PS. oh - BTW the highest bets was 3u (probably a bit lucky)
Thanks for that modification atlantis. Ill try
@ Rich thanks for ur reply.
@ Atlantis, Thanks also. One question do u move one step on the right after
each loss; and one step to the left after each win.....?
Chris what he does is reset at the first win
Move to the right on a loss and when you get a win, reset to beginning
His progression is same as mine but he extends it instead of 1 2 3 5 8 he does 1 1 2 2 3 3 5 5 8 8. An extended fibonacci
the Fibonacci did good for me on baccarat, id go back 2 steps on a win, but i found that 2 wins in a row wasnt happening all the time, so before i knew it my bets were huge
then it dawned on me, perhaps a fibonacci where you rest on any win would do well
as my example showed, on a $10 minimum bet, if you lose 8 out of 11 bets you are down 60, not too bad and easy to recover from, just keep resetting after a win
on roulette u can have a trigger, bet against a streak, if HIGH hits 4 times in a row start on LOW
same with baccarat, bet against a streak using the fibonacci reset
@ Rich
Thanks for the reply; To arrive at the 34 units bet we need to loose
14 times in a row.....which is great for ec bets.
With a good bet selection where the hit rate is around 50%, this
progression would be a real winner. What do u think....?
Cheers
Chris
Quote from: Chris555p on Sep 04, 05:30 PM 2014
@ Rich
Thanks for the reply; To arrive at the 34 units bet we need to loose
14 times in a row.....which is great for ec bets.
With a good bet selection where the hit rate is around 50%, this
progression would be a real winner. What do u think....?
Cheers
Chris
what do i think?
i think its a hell of a lot better then a martingale
its long and drawn out but if you choose low to bet on and there is a streak u win nice profit
if you choose low and you lose a lot of bets its ok cause when you win and reset the hit wont be so bad and when u restart its easy to win money back
i think it can be good
dont worry i wont sell it to silverthorne lol
lets say its 50/50 you lose 5 bets and win 5 bets, heres an example betting on LOW 1-18
lose 10
lose 10
lose 20
lose 30
lose 50
win 80
win 10
win 10
win 10
win 10
total win $10
not bad
of course you will have losing sessions
my goal is to minimize losses while having a chance at winning streaks
like i showed in previous example, the losses can overcome the wins by 80 percent and you wont be down much using this progression and eventually you should bounce back...
Yes I totally agree with u; It sure beats marty anyday......; whilst
reducing the risk to our br....lol
Quote from: Chris555p on Sep 04, 06:00 PM 2014
Yes I totally agree with u; It sure beats marty anyday......; whilst
reducing the risk to our br....lol
yes much less risk for the bankroll and a return is easy
it even worked on RTG RNG, although i dont recommend that
im in the united states, so the only live dealer casino for me that i know of is sun palace from mainstreet group
they literally throw the ball so hard its not like a real dealer in a live casino, they wing it so fast. real dealer and real roulette game, but they way they throw the ball isnt how it should be done
I dont have experience testing
I hope someone with experience can test and graph this against real spins exactly how I wrote it. Fibonacci with a reset to starting bet on any win on HIGH or LOW ec
Rich - You won't have to sell it to Silverthorne, he'll just steal your idea straight of this forum, Today, Tomorrow, whenever.
"A lot better than a Marty" I'm not so sure ? Especially one with a stop loss.
Consider this with a stop loss (SL) after any L3 loss. "V" = virtual no money bets. To win needs 2 back to back wins = a "V" win & then a money bet win.
L4 & higher has the same "V" bet format. A string of LWLWLWLWLW kills it. It shines if you get LLLLLLLLWW etc. Any win resets to your min bet.
The demo uses your 10 bet sample.
Bet +/-
10 L -10
20 L -30
40 L -70 L3
80VL -70 nil money bet L4
80VL -70 nil money bet
80VW -70 nil money bet
80 W +10 SL win L4 & reset to min.
10 W +20
10 W +30
10 W +40
Better than "not bad" @ +40 vs +10.
Att. Also Chris555p your posts just came in as I was set to post this.
Ausguy have u figured out winner3 mathematically infaliable system? Im still trying
Rich - So what do you reckon about my Marty demo ?
Deviating off the Fibo topic ? As to winner3 ? I don't recall I was doing anything with that ? What am I supposed to be figuring ?
i was just asking in a friendly way if you looked into it and making conversation...
i liked the marty demo
ive played marty a few times i never used a stop like u did at 80 however i have done a delayed marty. example: wait for player to hit 5 times in a row then start a marty on banker
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 07:48 PM 2014
How about a fibonacci where you reset on ANY win
lets say you choose low 1-18
Lose -10
Lose -20
Lose -30
Lose -50
Lose -80
Win +130
win +10
lose -10
lose -20
lose -30
win +50
on this example we are only down $60
only down 60 when we only WON 3 out of 11 bets
so winning 3 out of a 11 is not a huge loss and believe me the wins will come back
a way to really minimize losses?
test it!
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Thank you Rich/RouletteGhost for your sharing.
Try applying this idea on Single Dozen - previous to last (or second to last dozen or 2nd last dozen hit).
for example 34,21 bet third dozen, 12,24,21 bet first dozen
Or use any better single dozen bet selection.
Use Fibonacci, as suggested by RouletteGhost, reset on every win.
Love and Light,
Sugtips
Attach extended fibo
15 steps each
Cheers
Hello everyone, hope all is well im new here and i will also give this system a try