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Test Area for System9 Robot

Started by TwoCatSam, Jun 24, 07:56 PM 2012

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TwoCatSam

Rob

RNG?  Yes.  The bot only runs on Bet Voyager.  Have I missed a step?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 02, 10:51 PM 2012
Rob

RNG?  Yes.  The bot only runs on Bet Voyager.  Have I missed a step?

Sam

Sam

No u have not. I just like 2 lose my money at slower pace so i play only air ball or live wheel.   ;D
I dont mind playing longer sessions f they produce d same breakdown of W's n L's like examples i posted with win goal of 30 n stop-loss of 70. What do u think?

Regards
Matt

TwoCatSam

Rob

I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections.  I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing.  I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.

How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest.  The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it.  That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!

I wish the robot would run on Dublin.  There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated.  (My opinion!)

Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's.  I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well.  Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.

I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots.  No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working.  Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?

Well, you asked.......

TwoCat
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Bayes

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots.  No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working.  Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?

Well, you asked.......

TwoCat

Sam, how would they know if you had made a mistake?

And I don't know why any OC would be concerned if they knew you were running a bot, you just lose money faster, why would that upset them?  ^-^
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
Rob

I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections.  I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing.  I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.

How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest.  The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it.  That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!

I wish the robot would run on Dublin.  There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated.  (My opinion!)

Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's.  I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well.  Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.

I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots.  No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working.  Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?

Well, you asked.......

TwoCat

Hola Sam

I like Vile system 2 but since u mentioned d fact that it seems 2 create equal number of wins n losses in long sessions that's usually good thing but a real dangerous thing is a long losing streak at higher base bets. U had a draw down once of more then 100u n 1u represents 1 bet on all 3 streets so playing 1euro as a base unit u would go down more than 300 euros.  So big bankroll is a must.  As 2 System 9 i tested it over 10000 spins sample taken from this forum. I broke it down into 50 sessions of 200 spins each. I used 30 n 70u as win goal n stop-loss values. And as b4 i got very mixed results. 24 sessions hit WG, 16 hit SL n 10 others ended at -330u at d end of sessions. Playing with stop-loss might help but some sessions recovered nicely from lower draw downs. Good news is that only 4 out of 50 session never went into positive territory at some time during sessions, few of them hit usually a small profit early n then went down. Logical conclusion would be then just play 4 any profit   ;D Some people posted some very nice graphs showing overall climbing trend but its what i got. Before i tested 80 spin sessions on air ball. I looked also on my sessions at SMLive n its sort of mixed 2.

Regards
Matt

TwoCatSam

Yes, LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:: can create a big bet.  I did not see that.  More like four Ls and then some ws.  I'll be cautious.

So you are using S9 as a tracker?  Do you feel it works for you?  Do you feel the tracker fairly represents what Luke said to do in his charts?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 07:27 AM 2012
Yes, LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:: can create a big bet.  I did not see that.  More like four Ls and then some ws.  I'll be cautious.

So you are using S9 as a tracker?  Do you feel it works for you?  Do you feel the tracker fairly represents what Luke said to do in his charts?

Sam

I do not have a problem with a tracker. I don't use it as a bot so no complaints. Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind.  I did some amount of testing n unfortunately this system is sort of hit n miss. I tried 2 test it with different stop-loss n win goal options. FL claims that it can recover 9 out of 10 times out of 70u deficit. Unfortunately rather d opposite is true f u look at results of my tests. It can produce some nice winning runs but losing streaks in excess of 30u r also quite common. D fact that there is no logical explanation why it should work does not really bother me like some people but numbers r just numbers n we r talking about more than 10k spins testing. 
Matt

TwoCatSam

**********Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind.*********

That's what I wanted to hear.  I feel Luke is being honest and I'll devote some time to the study.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 10:05 AM 2012
**********Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind.*********

That's what I wanted to hear.  I feel Luke is being honest and I'll devote some time to the study.

Sam

Hope that u will come up with different results than myself.  ;D
Matt

malcop

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
Rob

I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections.  I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing.  I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.

How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest.  The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it.  That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!

I wish the robot would run on Dublin.  There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated.  (My opinion!)

Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's.  I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well.  Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.

I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots.  No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working.  Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?

Well, you asked.......

TwoCat
I agree with you 100%, I'm just intrested in using it as a tracker for live play, where I play I have less than 30 seconds to calculate and place my bets, so for me that is what a tracker is useful for.

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